Ubuntu 9.10 "Karmic Koala": Discussion thread

stmok · 21st February 2009, 10:41 PM

Yes, its actually called Karmic Koala.

Firstly, the official announcement is here.
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ub...ry/000536.html

Phoronix talks a bit about it...
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...item&px=NzA3OA

For those too lazy to click any link, the highlights (under consideration) are:

(1) Server version: Cloud computing features. Will be using API's of Amazon EC2. So you can build your own cloud!

(2) Desktop version: They may use Red Hat's Plymouth. Also aim for lower boot times than 9.04...They want to do better than 25 secs on a netbook.

If you don't know what Red Hat's Plymouth is about...
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...plymouth&num=1

kingborel · 22nd February 2009, 9:58 AM

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Originally Posted by stmok

(1) Server version: Cloud computing features. Will be using API's of Amazon EC2. So you can build your own cloud!

When they say this, do they mean 'DIY cloud' or integration with EC2?

dhwwwops · 22nd February 2009, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stmok

(1) Server version: Cloud computing features. Will be using API's of Amazon EC2. So you can build your own cloud!

Hopefully this will also be good for intranet / cloud based web applications.

HyRax1 · 22nd February 2009, 1:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stmok

Yes, its actually called Karmic Koala.

Damn. I was really pining my hopes on Kinky Kookaburra...

Pity it looks like they're delaying the cosmetic makeover again. And I thought Jaunty was supposed to have the boot time revamp as well - it appears only Ext4 is helping Ubuntu in that department right now, but I suspect Windows 7 is still a little way off official release, so there might be some time left to clean things up a bit by October before the next level of competition heats up again.

kingborel · 22nd February 2009, 1:18 PM

Nah looks like they're considering it

Quote:

The desktop will have a designer's fingerprints all over it - we're now
beginning the serious push to a new look. Brown has served us well but
the Koala is considering other options. Come to UDS for a preview of the
whole new look.

(from https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ub...ry/000536.html)

The focus on netbooks will be good as well. If they can get all the devices supported for the common models (function keys, wireless, etc) out of the box it would be great.

-=N0N@ME420=- · 22nd February 2009, 4:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HyRax1

I thought Jaunty was supposed to have the boot time revamp as well

that's what I thought.

Quote:

There are some specific goals that we need to meet in Jaunty. One of
them is boot time. We want Ubuntu to boot as fast as possible - both in
the standard case, and especially when it is being tailored to a
specific device. The Jackalope is known for being so fast that it's
extremely hard to catch, and breeds only when lightning flashes. Let's
see if we can make booting or resuming Ubuntu blindingly quick.

oh wait

..

FiShy · 22nd February 2009, 7:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HyRax1

Damn. I was really pining my hopes on Kinky Kookaburra...

I was hoping Karamelo Koala

stmok · 23rd February 2009, 3:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FiShy

I was hoping Karamelo Koala

Potential copyright issues there?

Besides, do you really want MORE hints of brown?

I use Xubuntu for one good reason...Because it isn't brown.

aerospyke · 25th February 2009, 10:16 AM

wow i'm out of hte loop... haven't even seen 9.04 (still on 8.10 :-P) .... kinda over rebuilding my machines for cleaner upgrades tho :-P even tho dist-upgrade is seemingly reliable since 7.04 > 7.10... but unless it improves performance over 8.10 I won't be going... 8.10 brought my little P3 to a slowdown, thinkin of goin back to 8.04

or i could upgrade the hardware ... naaaa

kingborel · 25th February 2009, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aerospyke

wow i'm out of hte loop... haven't even seen 9.04 (still on 8.10 :-P) .... kinda over rebuilding my machines for cleaner upgrades tho :-P even tho dist-upgrade is seemingly reliable since 7.04 > 7.10... but unless it improves performance over 8.10 I won't be going... 8.10 brought my little P3 to a slowdown, thinkin of goin back to 8.04

or i could upgrade the hardware ... naaaa

Thats because 9.04 isnt out yet :P Everyone is getting ahead of themselves

aerospyke · 25th February 2009, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingborel

Thats because 9.04 isnt out yet :P Everyone is getting ahead of themselves

BAHAHAHAHA that'd explain so much ... is it in alpha stage? 9.04 that is

kingborel · 25th February 2009, 11:18 AM

Yeah it is. Alpha 5 comes out in the next few days, and the final version is out in April

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule

foxmulder881 · 25th February 2009, 1:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingborel

Yeah it is. Alpha 5 comes out in the next few days, and the final version is out in April

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule

Let's hope they fix support for i865 chipset. Alpha 3 was borked. Alpha 4 was borked. Fingers crossed for A5.

stmok · 5th March 2009, 5:03 AM

Karmic Koala (9.10)'s release schedule is out.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicReleaseSchedule

The gist of the release dates...
Alpha 1 => May 14th
Alpha 2 => June 11th
Alpha 3 => July 23rd
Alpha 4 => Aug 13th
Alpha 5 => Sept 3rd
Alpha 6 => Sept 17th
Beta => Oct 1st
Release Candidate => Oct 22nd

Final Release => Oct 29th

-=N0N@ME420=- · 31st March 2009, 1:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -=N0N@ME420=-

oh wait

..

so I'm a bit to ahead of myself :P

<20 second bootup with 9.10 =o

What else can they do to improve bootup performance? I assume ext4 set as default will help things along..

21st February 2009, 10:41 PM	#1
stmok (Taking a Break) Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Sydney Posts: 6,271	Ubuntu 9.10 "Karmic Koala": Discussion thread Yes, its actually called Karmic Koala. Firstly, the official announcement is here. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ub...ry/000536.html Phoronix talks a bit about it... http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...item&px=NzA3OA For those too lazy to click any link, the highlights (under consideration) are: (1) Server version: Cloud computing features. Will be using API's of Amazon EC2. So you can build your own cloud! (2) Desktop version: They may use Red Hat's Plymouth. Also aim for lower boot times than 9.04...They want to do better than 25 secs on a netbook. If you don't know what Red Hat's Plymouth is about... http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...plymouth&num=1

25th February 2009, 10:16 AM	#9
aerospyke Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sydney NSW Posts: 3,091	wow i'm out of hte loop... haven't even seen 9.04 (still on 8.10 :-P) .... kinda over rebuilding my machines for cleaner upgrades tho :-P even tho dist-upgrade is seemingly reliable since 7.04 > 7.10... but unless it improves performance over 8.10 I won't be going... 8.10 brought my little P3 to a slowdown, thinkin of goin back to 8.04 or i could upgrade the hardware ... naaaa __________________ DFI Lanparty UT nf4 SLI-DR Expert BIOS 0406 \| G4 on AMD 4400+@2.7Ghz (270x10) \| G.Skill HZ 2GB@1:1 \| MCW55 on 7800GTX 256 @ 500/1.39 Wife v1.2 settling in fine, no compatibility issues apparent ZOMG bought myself a house !

25th February 2009, 11:18 AM	#12
kingborel Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 475	Yeah it is. Alpha 5 comes out in the next few days, and the final version is out in April https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule __________________ Desktop: Intel E6400 \| Gigabyte EP45-DS3 \| Nvidia 8800GTS 320MB @ 600/920 \| 4GB RAM \| CM 690 Case ESXi Server: Intel Q6600 @ 3000MHz\| Asus P5QL-PRO \| Nvidia 8400GS \| 8GB RAM Storage Server: AMD 3500+\| Asus A8N-SLI \| Nvidia 7100GS \| 2GB RAM \| OpenSolaris + ZFS

5th March 2009, 5:03 AM	#14
stmok (Taking a Break) Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Sydney Posts: 6,271	Karmic Koala (9.10)'s release schedule is out. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicReleaseSchedule The gist of the release dates... Alpha 1 => May 14th Alpha 2 => June 11th Alpha 3 => July 23rd Alpha 4 => Aug 13th Alpha 5 => Sept 3rd Alpha 6 => Sept 17th Beta => Oct 1st Release Candidate => Oct 22nd Final Release => Oct 29th