P4/533Mhz: production date & place relevant? - Page 2

Mothug · 23rd July 2002, 10:44 PM

yes I should have worded myself better

what I have noticed with different intel cpu packdates that every now and then there is a new stepping, these newer steppings are often better, and the packdates are related to the steppings because the new intels arent kept in stock at the warehouses for long

chainbolt · 23rd July 2002, 10:48 PM

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Originally posted by doolz
Just checking here : http://processorfinder.intel.com/scr...LL&PkgType=ALL

It looks like there are 2 different 2.26 specs - SL683 and SL67Y. Both are B0 stepping, but have different order codes. Anyone know what difference there are between the two ?

no difference! The SL683 is the boxed one, and the SL67Y is the OEM version.

chainbolt · 23rd July 2002, 10:51 PM

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Originally posted by Mothug
yes I should have worded myself better

what I have noticed with different intel cpu packdates that every now and then there is a new stepping, these newer steppings are often better, and the packdates are related to the steppings because the new intels arent kept in stock at the warehouses for long

but there is only one stepping for the 2.26 until now. Performance differences within one stepping - I regard as random results. And what we get here with our 2.26 is so close together and TOTALLY different from the differences with AMD Athlons, that I almost suspect that Intel has better quality assurance.

all our 2.26 are within 100 or 50 Mhz, that is at around 3000 Mhz, a deviation of not more than than 3%, for me clearly within the margin of error. The differences for Athlons are 5 times bigger.

GreenBeret · 23rd July 2002, 11:04 PM

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Originally posted by chainbolt

no difference! The SL683 is the boxed one, and the SL67Y is the OEM version.

Mine is SL67Y and it's the boxed version

Creative · 24th July 2002, 12:04 AM

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Originally posted by GreenBeret

Mine is SL67Y and it's the boxed version

Same

I found a dood with a 40x50cm 19cfm fan he said and Im going to find out where he got it and then somehow use it with the default NS HS or else get a zalman and some ruber foam stuff...Just need to find it...

I was looping 3dmark tonight @ 2949 @ 1.69 volts and my alarm for 75degrees for NB went off and I was like wtf!!

But the cpu with the water on it now runs at nice at a max of 45ish.

I havnt been able to get my 3gig feat gain and I think that is 100% due to the NB being hotter cos there is no air at all being passed onto it with no heatsink on the cpu.....a problem i need to rectify asap....if so I think I could run this baby 3gig stable.....maybe

hehehe

doolz · 24th July 2002, 1:14 AM

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Originally posted by GreenBeret
Mine is SL67Y and it's the boxed version

Yeah, me too. But the product code is the one for the SL683 s spec.

chainbolt · 24th July 2002, 1:24 AM

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Originally posted by GreenBeret

Mine is SL67Y and it's the boxed version

In the Intel spec sheet the SL67Y is available in both versions, the other 2.26 only boxe. So I fear yours is a fake from one of these Chinese plumbers. That would explain why you are hanging behind, no ?

MR>E · 24th July 2002, 1:59 AM

I thought I would give the new P4a chip set a go.

I picked up a 2.0a GHz chip, A Soltek SL-85DRV4 M/B ATA133, a stick of Corsair 512Mb XMS-3200 DDR Ram and 2 80g ATA133 HD's.

What I am so impressed about is the Over Clock.
So far with this M/B and I will need to find a better one to go faster.

ATM its running @ 2.64 4x132MHz 1.7V
32-35 Idle
42-45 Full load
Not one crash, looped 3DMark2001se 10 times and Sandra soft burn in for 1hour no problems.

@ just under $400 (Chip)I am very very pleased.
Might take it back and grabbed a 2.26, 533MHz.

If anyone wants it they can have it for what I paid so I can get the 2.26 one

I have been an Athlon man for a long time but not no more.

With the right M/B and the 2.26, 3gig should not be to hard.

=BF= · 24th July 2002, 5:23 AM

2gig to 2.6 is a pretty good overclock percentage wise.

I'd sell the chip and mobo complete if I where you

chainbolt · 24th July 2002, 10:12 AM

For all those who think that a July packed malay is the better than others:

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Originally posted by vbhard

And yes it is the cpu(P41.6A July 2002 Malaysian made) which wouldn't let me go past 2.3G at 1.65V and 155MHz at 1.85V, tried on epox 4G4A+ AND gigabyte GA8SRX as well with Corsair PC3200 and genuine TCB3 module at different voltages but it wouldn't go past 155Mhz at 1.85V..

bummer

Again: My feeling here: all current B have the same stepping, and the very small differences we see are all random.

vbhard · 24th July 2002, 2:39 PM

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Originally posted by chainbolt
For all those who think that a July packed malay is the better than others:

Again: My feeling here: all current B have the same stepping, and the very small differences we see are all random.

Yes it is matter of luck...me being unlucky on 2 occasions to get the same cpu from the same retailer..

vbhard · 24th July 2002, 2:44 PM

or being stupid/naive to go back to the same retailer since i could not find p41.6a the only cpu i can afford atm...but i would go for 2.26b once i have saved enough...

destrkta · 24th July 2002, 6:46 PM

well my 2.26b is july pack date 07/03/2002

atm i've got it running at 2839 on air, though i've got 1 problem read my other thread.

oh btw sl683 packed in philipines.

cooler is a alpha8942 with a 80mm thermaltake fan, still looking for screws so i can use my 80cfm delta

24th July 2002, 6:46 PM	#28
destrkta Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Victoria Posts: 1,813	well my 2.26b is july pack date 07/03/2002 atm i've got it running at 2839 on air, though i've got 1 problem read my other thread. oh btw sl683 packed in philipines. cooler is a alpha8942 with a 80mm thermaltake fan, still looking for screws so i can use my 80cfm delta __________________ I7 920\|\|Gigabyte X58\|\|32gb Corsair DDR3 1500\|\|2 Gigabyte GTX280 SLI\|\|\|\|2WD300gb Raptors 2Athalon 1200MP&&Tyan Thunder 2469MPX&&2512mb Kingmax Reg DDR266&&3ware 7500-8&&8 WD1800JB(raid5 1.2TB)WD800JB(systemDrive)

23rd July 2002, 10:44 PM	#16
Mothug Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 1,447	yes I should have worded myself better what I have noticed with different intel cpu packdates that every now and then there is a new stepping, these newer steppings are often better, and the packdates are related to the steppings because the new intels arent kept in stock at the warehouses for long

24th July 2002, 1:59 AM	#23
MR>E Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: BrisVegas Australia Posts: 105	I thought I would give the new P4a chip set a go. I picked up a 2.0a GHz chip, A Soltek SL-85DRV4 M/B ATA133, a stick of Corsair 512Mb XMS-3200 DDR Ram and 2 80g ATA133 HD's. What I am so impressed about is the Over Clock. So far with this M/B and I will need to find a better one to go faster. ATM its running @ 2.64 4x132MHz 1.7V 32-35 Idle 42-45 Full load Not one crash, looped 3DMark2001se 10 times and Sandra soft burn in for 1hour no problems. @ just under $400 (Chip)I am very very pleased. Might take it back and grabbed a 2.26, 533MHz. If anyone wants it they can have it for what I paid so I can get the 2.26 one I have been an Athlon man for a long time but not no more. With the right M/B and the 2.26, 3gig should not be to hard.

24th July 2002, 5:23 AM	#24
=BF= Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: BrisVegas Posts: 1,217	2gig to 2.6 is a pretty good overclock percentage wise. I'd sell the chip and mobo complete if I where you

24th July 2002, 2:44 PM	#27
vbhard Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Sydney Posts: 2,536	or being stupid/naive to go back to the same retailer since i could not find p41.6a the only cpu i can afford atm...but i would go for 2.26b once i have saved enough...