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Old 10th August 2012, 6:51 PM   #211
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The SanDisk Extreme is powered by the popular SandForce SF-2281 controller, which has integrated DuraClass technology. According to SanDisk, the technology offers high performance, security, power efficiency, and endurance with a mean time between failures (MTBF) of 2 million hours. Basically, the SanDisk Extreme promises a good combination of performance and reliability.
They sound lke a bargain at $199* for 240GB, though the 830 is catching up at $252* for 256GB.

* Current MSY prices at time of posting.

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Old 12th August 2012, 5:14 AM   #212
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Anyone konw of any SSD drives that run colder than others? Or do they all generate similar amounts of heat?

Nice to see I can finally afford to look at upgrading to 240GB but I'm trying to minimise heat in my tablet as the cpu on the old girl tends to make too much of that already. Anyone recommend a cool SSD?
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Old 12th August 2012, 10:55 PM   #213
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Thread digging time .... does anyone know anything about the Sandisk Extreme SSD ?

Half a dozen posts above yours I asked the same question Aussie @ #203
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Anyone konw of any SSD drives that run colder than others? Or do they all generate similar amounts of heat?

Nice to see I can finally afford to look at upgrading to 240GB but I'm trying to minimise heat in my tablet as the cpu on the old girl tends to make too much of that already. Anyone recommend a cool SSD?
Colder than others? With the amount of heat generated by SSD operation... Power consumption should tell you a bit, but I'd have thought you'd be better off looking into options to reduce heat in the tablet by other means. Have a look at some of the cooling threads over at notebook reviews or somesuch...
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Old 13th August 2012, 1:07 AM   #214
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ok

1. they all run cool under max temputure allowed for produce when being used..much colder than any hdd.(check temps with lazer temp probe vs hdd under summer use.

2.. got a samsung 120 830+ SanDisk Extreme 120 + intel 330 120 g ssd
(older intel 520 60g)
(msy)

tested on z68 intel (raid) sata 3 (in non raid) win 7 64bit sp1

fastest to slowest (benchmarks+copying+boot win 7)

intel 520 model 60g (fastest)
samsung 120g 830 (close to 520, but in diff areas-benchies)
intel 330 120g much slower than advertised speeds (go samsung recommended)
scandisk ext 120g (slowest) not recommended slow on compress files...slow to boot..

also im not sure why but the intel 330 ssd does not work on my usb 3.0 welland turbo leopard vis asmedia usb 3.0 chip

other non intel work (non tested 520 on usb 3.0 ) in use in other machine now


the samsung is on par with the intel 520 ssd, but benchies differ, ie faster in some areas, slower in other, id say both are good for different uses.

the samsung faster in seq read/write (ie loading games+ video recording stream etc) but the intel better at random read/write (windows boot up) multi file access

my 3x sata 2 60g mushkin callisto in raid 0 out performs all of them (even after 2 years use) real life higher isops,vs 2x 60g intel 520(which iv now put on other machine)

iv found that 2x 520 (sata 3)raid 0 after some use is slower than the 3x musk callisto (sata 2) for everyday use...


so i recommend..
if intel raid sata 3(2 ports) get 2x 520 intel...win boot, or 2x samsung 830 in raid 0(same ports) the raid 0 with the samsung, gives it very fast multi access for windows boot + game loading video recording(save a few bucks)

1. go intel 520 (if you got money) 1 drive or 2 in raid 0
2 go samsung 830(120g) go 1 if media box or 2 in raid 0 if windows boot+games+ recording video


samsung results are very different from sata 2 + sat 3 controllers (sandforce ones), you get the best of both worlds if you put 2 in raid 0
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Old 13th August 2012, 9:27 AM   #215
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@ antipody: With few exceptions, any SSD should make a big positive difference to the heat levels (in my experience).
Additionally it's possible to mitigate the issue further and extend battery life using undervolting: http://tinyurl.com/2d4lhyu
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Old 13th August 2012, 9:52 AM   #216
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Doesn't RAID mean no garbage collection/trim or are these now supported in RAID ?

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Old 13th August 2012, 10:26 AM   #217
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Hey Aus,

One of my SSD's in a sandisk extreme 240gb, been going for 6 months now and is still running well how long it'll go i dont know, but for the price/gb was great deal
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Old 13th August 2012, 10:44 AM   #218
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You guys with RAID SSD setups are you using onboard RAID or an ad-on RAID card? I have a four port Highpoint but I was keeping it for a storage array.

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You guys with RAID SSD setups are you using onboard RAID or an ad-on RAID card? I have a four port Highpoint but I was keeping it for a storage array.

onboard intel raid (0) did the x48 775(bios cust update for intel raid ) + z68 raid 0 setups

seams faster than sub 400$ raid cards+ free


intel working on raid with trim (z77 z68?) in beta intel raid bios+ drivers...

it slows down a bis vs non raid, but you get lots of benefits from raid

improved speed random access etc...

vs raid 0 cons
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Power consumption should tell you a bit, but I'd have thought you'd be better off looking into options to reduce heat in the tablet by other means. Have a look at some of the cooling threads over at notebook reviews or somesuch...
Cheers, just the info I was after. Quite a significant dif there. Will keep my eyes open for a Samsung 256GB.
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Old 14th August 2012, 7:13 PM   #221
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You guys with RAID SSD setups are you using onboard RAID or an ad-on RAID card? I have a four port Highpoint but I was keeping it for a storage array.

RAID will preclude TRIM/garbage collection atm, there was a bit of a hubub about the Intel RIST supporting TRIM but it was bollocks. Only RAID setups I know of (open to suggestion) that have garbage collection currently are the OCZ Revodrives, some other SSDs support garbage collection at hardware level though but Idk which brands/models they are... (And definitely not in RAID striping modes)

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You guys with RAID SSD setups are you using onboard RAID or an ad-on RAID card? I have a four port Highpoint but I was keeping it for a storage array.

Anglebird Wings PCIe basic with 4x 128GB M4 in raid0 = 800r/600w
In a MacPro for swap/temp/cache/work files all backed up externally.
I plan to break the raid annually and trim/recondition the drives individually.
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Oh, I do remember reading that TRIM does work in RAID under Linux...

Nice RWs above though, but I'm still happy with my Revodrive...

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Oh, I do remember reading that TRIM does work in RAID under Linux...

Nice RWs above though, but I'm still happy with my Revodrive...
Oh yeah!

The Angelbird is limited to sataII for now, mainly for reliability according to the manufacturer.

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Old 17th September 2012, 2:37 PM   #225
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I am totally new to SSD and looking at purchasing one.
I don't know what I am meant to be looking at so coming here for advice.

I guess the minimum size I want it to be is 120gb but prefer 240 (just would be nice) and my budget is around the $200 mark.

What should I be looking at?

I will be using it for gaming and streaming
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