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Ckool · 29th December 2009, 6:55 PM

Apart from brand names is there any difference between all the gpu? Xfx,Sapphire,Asus,Gigabyte etc?? the price diffrence is like $200 between some of them.

DiGiTaL MoNkEY · 29th December 2009, 7:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Ckool

Apart from brand names is there any difference between all the gpu? Xfx,Sapphire,Asus,Gigabyte etc?? the price diffrence is like $200 between some of them.

Not really, some cards like the XFX XXX and black editions will have their own 'special' tweaking software, but personally same shit all around. That extra $200 bucks i would put towards a nice waterblock if i was already using a watercooling setup in my system.

Djuice · 29th December 2009, 7:03 PM

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Originally Posted by n3wbi379

PCCG has more stock in today ...
XFX 5970 XXX - $1200 ...... OUCHHHHH

It comes with 2 Full HD pRon Blu-Ray disk.

So its worth it!

lowdog · 29th December 2009, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DiGiTaL MoNkEY

Not really, some cards like the XFX XXX and black editions will have their own 'special' tweaking software, but personally same shit all around. That extra $200 bucks i would put towards a nice waterblock if i was already using a watercooling setup in my system.

Don't know about that; the EK block doesn't seem to work right on my Sapphire 5970, causes the card to become flakey over time and artifact in 2D desktop and then lock up in 3D mode where as the stock cooler works fine.

Over the interweb people are reporting that different brands of cards have different sized components when compared to other manafactures models when the stock cooler is removed, hence why a "one" waterblock won't work on "all" cards.....it's a lucky dip as I have already found out.

Gua5d1aN · 29th December 2009, 11:02 PM

im looking to upgrade my 2 4850's to something newer, and I was looking at the 5770's, grabbing 2 of those. How much more of a general increase am I looking at if I grab 2 5770's? I'm gravitating towards the 5770 because it is fairly cheap, and I don't think I would use a 5970 to its full use.

shift6 · 29th December 2009, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Gua5d1aN

im looking to upgrade my 2 4850's to something newer, and I was looking at the 5770's, grabbing 2 of those. How much more of a general increase am I looking at if I grab 2 5770's? I'm gravitating towards the 5770 because it is fairly cheap, and I don't think I would use a 5970 to its full use.

No benchmarks to prove my thoughts, but I do think that 1x HD5850 will be a much better purchase than two HD5770s. A 5850 is a fair bit faster than the 5770 and be a better upgrade than simply upgrading to the 5770s from the 4850s.

Ice009 · 29th December 2009, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by lowdog

Don't know about that; the EK block doesn't seem to work right on my Sapphire 5970, causes the card to become flakey over time and artifact in 2D desktop and then lock up in 3D mode where as the stock cooler works fine.

Over the interweb people are reporting that different brands of cards have different sized components when compared to other manafactures models when the stock cooler is removed, hence why a "one" waterblock won't work on "all" cards.....it's a lucky dip as I have already found out.

What do you mean different sized components?

I thought they all come from the same factory? Are some brands using cheaper components?

leebaldock · 30th December 2009, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Gua5d1aN

im looking to upgrade my 2 4850's to something newer, and I was looking at the 5770's, grabbing 2 of those. How much more of a general increase am I looking at if I grab 2 5770's? I'm gravitating towards the 5770 because it is fairly cheap, and I don't think I would use a 5970 to its full use.

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Originally Posted by shift6

No benchmarks to prove my thoughts, but I do think that 1x HD5850 will be a much better purchase than two HD5770s. A 5850 is a fair bit faster than the 5770 and be a better upgrade than simply upgrading to the 5770s from the 4850s.

Talking raw performance only based on the Anandtech review below...

2 x 5770 in CF is about a 5870 - maybe a little better...

2 x 5770 in CF is possibly cheaper and easier to get hold of...

This review might help.

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3658&p=6

AussieTemplar · 30th December 2009, 12:34 AM

+1 to using 2x 5770 in a crossfire setup. Probably cheaper and easier to source than 1x 5850. And the performance would be better.

Gua5d1aN · 30th December 2009, 12:44 AM

sounds like a plan, ill look at order the 2 possibly tomorrow

, thx for the help guys

EDIT: just looked at PCCG, and they got plenty of 5770's in stock, imma order 2x sapphire 5770's $219 each

Predator · 30th December 2009, 8:35 AM

Damm, I'm really regretting getting a 750i motherboard right now. No CF for me

I take it 5850s are going to be ~$400 for the foreseeable future?

Gua5d1aN · 30th December 2009, 9:46 AM

round about, I dont think they will drop in price much very soon, given the limited supply, and that nvidia is taking their sweet time in releasing their new stuff. But it will get there

lowdog · 30th December 2009, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Ice009

What do you mean different sized components?

I thought they all come from the same factory? Are some brands using cheaper components?

Exactly what I mean, different brand cards seem to have some difference in some of the components used therefore meaning a water block designed for a reference board may indeed not work with all boards if some of the components on the boards vary by .5mm in height....this may be due to a sourcing issue with availability of specific brand components...who knows?

tupac130996 · 30th December 2009, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Predator

Damm, I'm really regretting getting a 750i motherboard right now. No CF for me

I take it 5850s are going to be ~$400 for the foreseeable future?

You should of got a nice P45 board anyhow MSY had 5850 for $377 for a limited time so I'm sure the next batch will be similar.

millsy_c · 30th December 2009, 1:32 PM

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Originally Posted by tupac130996

You should of got a nice P45 board anyhow MSY had 5850 for $377 for a limited time so I'm sure the next batch will be similar.

Pity they don't have a crossfire hack for sli mobo's (like the sli hack for crossfire mobo's)

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30th December 2009, 12:44 AM	#6520
Gua5d1aN Iron Chef Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: 2206 Posts: 917	sounds like a plan, ill look at order the 2 possibly tomorrow , thx for the help guys EDIT: just looked at PCCG, and they got plenty of 5770's in stock, imma order 2x sapphire 5770's $219 each __________________ Phenom ll X4 940BE @ 3.8ghz \| DFI Lanparty DK-790FX-M2RS \| ATI 6970 \| 8GB Corsair DDR2 PC2-8500 Dominators \| SteelSeries Xai \| G110 \| Creative Arena Headset \| Logitech X-540 \| Raven RV2 \| BenQ E2400HD Dolce Vita! My Cooking Blog Last edited by Gua5d1aN; 30th December 2009 at 12:49 AM.

30th December 2009, 9:46 AM	#6522
Gua5d1aN Iron Chef Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: 2206 Posts: 917	round about, I dont think they will drop in price much very soon, given the limited supply, and that nvidia is taking their sweet time in releasing their new stuff. But it will get there __________________ Phenom ll X4 940BE @ 3.8ghz \| DFI Lanparty DK-790FX-M2RS \| ATI 6970 \| 8GB Corsair DDR2 PC2-8500 Dominators \| SteelSeries Xai \| G110 \| Creative Arena Headset \| Logitech X-540 \| Raven RV2 \| BenQ E2400HD Dolce Vita! My Cooking Blog

30th December 2009, 8:35 AM	#6521
Predator Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Newcastle Posts: 1,765	Damm, I'm really regretting getting a 750i motherboard right now. No CF for me I take it 5850s are going to be ~$400 for the foreseeable future?