Battlefield 3

[Statitica]

Originally Posted by praytella

Somehow I get the feeling nothing but removing it from the game completely will satisfy you.

Oh, you manages to read between the lines when I wrote:

Originally Posted by Statitica

If it isn't pulled right back next patch (preferably removed altogether), I'll probably lose interest completely. It's a skill killer; may as well just spam fire cos accuracy counts for shit now.

Your comprehension skills are amazing!

I don't get it, I don't see bullets firing off in weird directions, I get some blurriness and that's about it.

Probably used to missing then, while you consta-fire your PKP?

This game requires a different approach and set of tactics than playing Quake or whatever you expect it to be. The idea is to move with other team mates and create a zone of control. Maybe stop sprinting across open areas and go around a safer route instead, flank the enemy positions and use armor as cover, enlist others in your squad to feed you info and help each other.

You seem to have this game confused with a simulator.

I get positive KDs in 90% of the matches I play atm, HC or normal. I don't need tips on how to play, I need people to understand that no amount of tactics (apart from never engaging in any combat of any type) will help you overcome suppression. You say

take cover and not die, then attempt to fight back or relocate from said cover.

You can't fight back from cover, if they're shooting around your cover - your bullets will miss. Unless you're just going to spam it up, and call it something tactical. So you'd be on the constant retreat. Given that your soldier also moves slower while suppressed (this bit I really don't get - I thought the adrenaline from filling one's pants would get you moving quicker), good luck running from cover to cover.

And in regards to sniper rifles and the comment made: as I already said, you notice it more when you need to make every shot count, rather than empty a clip at them.

[praytella]

Originally Posted by whatdoesthisdo

If you want to compare this to real life then LOL. But I will bite, a soldier will fight back and gues what? His bullets will go straight. Also soldiers are "trained" to shoot back and accurately whilst being shot at. If that wasn't the case wars would be pretty one sided. Not only do real life soliders contend with being shot at but also while mortars and grenades are going off around them and they still shoot straight, just amazing.

You're getting a litte stroppy. Touch a nerve did I?



Notice the first reaction? No, it's not stand there and shoot back expecting to get a headshot, they get down, identify the direction of the incoming fire and make a safe decision. The guy hits the deck, gets an idea of if he's in immediate danger and in the case of the first bit, unloads a clip into the random bushes. Notice also that as he shot randomly out there, no kills were recorded in the gamelog. I'm guessing he didn't hit anything. Obviously confused and horribly inaccurate.

Class dismissed.

Originally Posted by Statitica

/more stuff about being a sniper and throws in the awesome KDR he has, then some snipity snip

LOL

[WackOh]

sigh did anyone read this yet?

http://www.enterbf3.com/news/809-bat...iption-system/

to quote a paragraph from the link - It's been hinted that EA admires Activision's Elite system for Call of Duty and is interested in doing the same thing for Battlefield 3. And now according to rumors, Battlefield Premium will be going live on June 4th. No pricing information has been released, but it is probably a monthly subscription service.

ye ye i know not compulsory blah blah but this is just the sort of shitty direction that game companies take which pisses me off

[whatdoesthisdo]

Originally Posted by praytella

You're getting a litte stroppy. Touch a nerve did I?

What not enough Lol's in there for you. I am laughing my ass of at you, not stroppy at all.

Originally Posted by praytella

movie

Notice the first reaction? No, it's not stand there and shoot back expecting to get a headshot, they get down, identify the direction of the incoming fire and make a safe decision. The guy hits the deck, gets an idea of if he's in immediate danger and in the case of the first bit, unloads a clip into the random bushes. Notice also that as he shot randomly out there, no kills were recorded in the gamelog. I'm guessing he didn't hit anything. Obviously confused and horribly inaccurate.

Class dismissed.





LOL

Now seeing you are clearly just trolling or impeccably stupid let's make this clear, I have no problem with someone going for cover and AGREE with you that should be the first thing someone does when being suppressed In fact I don't think anyone here disagrees with that, I do this now and I did before the patch. But as you are clearly slow, I will put it into bold for yo, I have a problem with a game mechanic purposely throwing my bullets off target.

LOL at your vid. So much facepalm but you can't even grasp the simplest of concepts, I aint even going to try going into that one.

LOL LOL LOL

Oh and LOL

[praytella]

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Originally Posted by whatdoesthisdo

/snip

You should learn to aim better then. Anyway, why are you trying to shoot back when you're suppressed? Do you not know how the mechanic works? Stay down man, wait for a reload or for your team mates. Wait for a sniper to shoot captain obvious on the map for all to see. Lob a nade, use the cover to flank the guy, use some sort of tactics apart from standing up, waving your arms around yelling "over here over here" and trying to head shot the guy who must never have to reload according to you because there isn't any point in waiting behind cover for a few seconds for the suppression effect to wear off right?

Now go find me that classic youtube of the guy in metro suppressing it all up and pwning bitches. Try that in HC. It doesn't work because you can't shoot through friendlies. Suppression is not that big an issue in HC, because you have to be a lot more careful with your shots, which means no massive spray of neverending bullets. Don't like suppression because it's broken? Pick a real BF map and jump in HC where it isn't!

Originally Posted by Statitica

You say You can't fight back from cover, if they're shooting around your cover - your bullets will miss.

Firstly you claim that your bullets go at 90 deg angles... so your bullets should be hitting him if you're firing from around a corner...

Secondly, I don't have a problem with sticking my head out and popping off a few rounds once the effects wear off. If he shoots again, I duck down. Normally I've either scared him off, suppressed him myself, or he's dead. It doesn't take a few clips of ammo to take down an enemy like NM, so the firefights are relatively short.

Again, I just dont share the same feelings about suppression you both do because I play a different mode where the effects are not as commonly felt, and obviously and more thoughtful in the approach I take when engaging the enemy to allow counter maneuvers and teamwork to overwhelm them.

Originally Posted by praytella

Somehow I get the feeling nothing but removing it from the game completely will satisfy you

You should learn to read better. No maybes in my statement.

Originally Posted by Statitica

Oh, you manages to read between the lines when I wrote:

Originally Posted by Statitica

If it isn't pulled right back next patch (preferably removed altogether), I'll probably lose interest completely.

If you mean you want it out or you'll quit, then say so. Don't second guess yourself and expect others to know how you feel emotionally deep down inside. Certainly don't make out like I said the same thing you did. I basically said that your previous claim of ifs, buts, and maybes was a lie, you won't be happy with any suppression because it's too scary for you. While you were being sarcastic, I literally read between your lines.

Your comprehension skills are amazing!

Comprehension skills right? You need me to loan you some?



Edit: Seems alright to me, probably could do with some tweaking for sure, but I see you guys exagerate the bullets going 90 deg angles.
I agree with exactly what this guy said, pop off a few shots and then get the hell out of there.

[whatdoesthisdo]

Originally Posted by praytella

You should learn to aim better then.

What? That's exactly the point, aim has nothing to do with it. LOL As displayed in xfactors vid and he is up there with the best in the game.

Originally Posted by praytella

Anyway, why are you trying to shoot back when you're suppressed?

You do realise 1 bullet can suppress you, don't you? Do you think soldiers in real life count to 8 after the shooting stops before engaging the enemy? EPIC LOL

Originally Posted by praytella

Do you not know how the mechanic works?

I think it is you who doesn't know how it works.

Originally Posted by praytella

Stay down man, wait for a reload or for your team mates. Wait for a sniper to shoot captain obvious on the map for all to see. Lob a nade, use the cover to flank the guy, use some sort of tactics apart from standing up, waving your arms around yelling "over here over here" and trying to head shot the guy who must never have to reload according to you because there isn't any point in waiting behind cover for a few seconds for the suppression effect to wear off right?

I have no problem with this as said 1000 million times before. I have no problem with the concept of suppression.

Originally Posted by praytella

Firstly you claim that your bullets go at 90 deg angles... so your bullets should be hitting him if you're firing from around a corner...

I have never said this.

Originally Posted by praytella

Edit: Seems alright to me, probably could do with some tweaking for sure, but I see you guys exagerate the bullets going 90 deg angles.
I agree with exactly what this guy said, pop off a few shots and then get the hell out of there.

LOL@U

This just shows how much you pay attention. I agree with xfactor, I also think they should have achieved it some other way as pointed out previously but if they are to keep it, it needs to be dialed down. That is all.

[Statitica]

Personally, I'm amused at the fact you continually hold HC on a pedestal, even when HC exclusive players are saying suppression is rubbish.

Furthermore, I play both, and apart from a few regulars in one server I frequent, there are more skilled players on the normal mode servers.

If it takes you a couple of clips to drop a guy in normal mode, your doing it wrong.

You think that suppression is a tactical inclusion, where it is the easiest thing to exploit (beside that m26), and the easiest to score points with, seeing as you dont even need to hit people. It increases run and gun play.

Even the devs think your wrong.

[praytella]

Originally Posted by whatdoesthisdo

This just shows how much you pay attention. I agree with xfactor, I also think they should have achieved it some other way as pointed out previously but if they are to keep it, it needs to be dialed down. That is all.

Oh the ironing. I never said it's great as is, I even told you all what I selected in the poll purely for you NM guys carrying on about it.

You're the one that 'came at be brah', so perhaps before you start your random trollin next time, perhaps actually read their posts!

[praytella]

Originally Posted by Statitica

Personally, I'm amused at the fact you continually hold HC on a pedestal

By pedestal you mean because I don't play NM? Sorry if I prefer it. I guess anyone who plays NM regulary must mean they are holding NM up on a pedestal and I should whinge about them?

even when HC exclusive players are saying suppression is rubbish.

Who? The only two in here lately is you and whatsdoessuppressiondo, who just came out of the closest to say he's happy with it but needs some tweaking. I know you play NM, not sure about that other guy.

Furthermore, I play both, and apart from a few regulars in one server I frequent, there are more skilled players on the normal mode servers.

LOL, pedestal much?

If it takes you a couple of clips to drop a guy in normal mode, your doing it wrong.

Err ok captain obvious.

You think that suppression is a tactical inclusion, where it is the easiest thing to exploit (beside that m26), and the easiest to score points with, seeing as you dont even need to hit people. It increases run and gun play.

The vid shows you can still hit even while suppressed, so not sure what you're on about. It just makes it harder by simulating shooting under fire. Notice he is standing there letting others suppress him to show us... perhaps if he moved he wouldn't be suppressed!

Even the devs think your wrong.

The devs can change it then! Isn't that what you what? If the dev's think it should be toned down or removed, why are they stuffing around with a poll, and why did they make it worse last patch?

[whatdoesthisdo]

Originally Posted by praytella

Oh the ironing. I never said it's great as is, I even told you all what I selected in the poll purely for you NM guys carrying on about it.

You're the one that 'came at be brah', so perhaps before you start your random trollin next time, perhaps actually read their posts!

bahahahahahaha

Originally Posted by praytella

I'm not saying it's not there, I just don't feel like it's overkill. To me it's a great feature.

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[praytella]

Originally Posted by whatdoesthisdo

bahahahahahaha



idiotsgottaidiot.gif

Great feature doesn't equal perfect implementation. It is a great feature, I like it. Not sure why I have to keep repeating myself, possibly because you're just trolling and not even reading the posts, but it can do with some tweaking. Not even close to what you're trying to misrepresent me as saying.

Try again champ!

Maybe drop the personal attacks as well, if you're going to continue to play the poster and not the post I will report your abuse.

[whatdoesthisdo]

Originally Posted by praytella

Great feature doesn't equal perfect implementation. It is a great feature, I like it. Not sure why I have to keep repeating myself, possibly because you're just trolling and not even reading the posts, but it can do with some tweaking. Not even close to what you're trying to misrepresent me as saying.

Try again champ!

Maybe drop the personal attacks as well, if you're going to continue to play the poster and not the post I will report your abuse.

bahahahahaha, going to report me lol. Quick run to mummy......

Maybe if you let me know what "abuse" upset you precious and I will be sure to not do it again.

[Nussinator]

Abort discussion. It's not gonna go anywhere. As it happens we're all of a similar opinion; the current implementation of suppression isn't great. No need for flames and insults to eachother's intelligence m8s

Moving on to a far happier discussion, what pistols do you guys like? I'm a huge fan of the M93R, higher damage than ye olde G18 and can be fired at just about the same rate with more accuracy due to its burst fire. Get on it!

[praytella]

Originally Posted by whatdoesthisdo

bahahahahaha, going to report me lol. Quick run to mummy......

Maybe if you let me know what "abuse" upset you precious and I will be sure to not do it again.

You continue to show your maturity level. Grow up.

Calling someone repeatedly an idiot because you cannot hold an intelligent conversation is frowned upon.

[whatdoesthisdo]

Originally Posted by Nussinator

Abort discussion. It's not gonna go anywhere. As it happens we're all of a similar opinion; the current implementation of suppression isn't great. No need for flames and insults to eachother's intelligence m8s

Moving on to a far happier discussion, what pistols do you guys like? I'm a huge fan of the M93R, higher damage than ye olde G18 and can be fired at just about the same rate with more accuracy due to its burst fire. Get on it!

Yeah agreed. I love the both those guns and the magnum, it is a beast, if you can aim.