Concrete Slab water cooler loop - Hooked up!!!

[tex707]

What about concrete hardening temperature, it could go over 50C...?...just a thought.

[Charlie9809]

The fact is, by the time house is built, the concrete will be hard and cool. The copper pipe will not have been effected although it would have been good to wrap it in electrical tape to stop abrasion. Council will be fine with this as long as you have it in the plan, or an addition put in by the architect/engineer. So hope it goes well and cant wait to see some temps in time.

Charlie

[carbon_death]

Personally, i think this re-defines the term "extreme cooling" in terms of how its going to be set up.
It's definatly unique.
Well done, OP.

[hoonda75]

Yet again you amaze me Gig's, your creativeness and resourcefulness in thinking outside the box comes up with the goods again.
So the Boss is going to let you bring your computer “stuff” inside from the shed

If I ever get around to building I will have to contract you to come and consult and build me that beer cooled PC

[Davo1111]

I'm looking forward to benchmarks once the house is built.

PS - make sure you cover up the ends of the copper pipes, to stop water/dust/creepy crawleys/dirt from getting in the pipes.

[Dezza Bot]

Originally Posted by gigs

The Feser One is non Conductive Cooling Fluid.

That won't tend to bother things like lightning. I wouldn't worry about it since if lightning hits close enough to fry the pc through something buried in the slab or the ground, the fact that your pc is fried is probably going to be the least of your concerns.

[gigs]

Originally Posted by dazzawul

Just use distilled water and a couple of bottles of UV blue dye?

It has the added benefit of being less than a dollar a litre, and 30 dollars will get you enough dye to do 10 litres of water, you'd be way ahead :P

http://www.gammods.com.au/store/inde...roducts_id=544

I like the Feser fluid because it has got all the anti corrosion / anti fungal inhibitors etc but I guess you can buy them seperately like the dye in your link. Might have to look into it thanks dazzawul.

Originally Posted by disco frank

to the guys saying buy the copper pre lagged
NO lagging is used as an insulater on the hot water side of hot water units to
SLOW the heat transfer from the water through the copper
in this instance the OP needs the heat transfer to be as fast as possible making lagged copper bad bad idea

also putting the pipe in pipe method is not a good idea
as the op said bending it would be an issue and with the op having 1/2 or 15mm pipe and the next size up is 20mm there would be an air gap around most of the pipe again acting as an insulator not what the op is after

Agreed disco frank

Originally Posted by tex707

What about concrete hardening temperature, it could go over 50C...?...just a thought.

I have no idea what temp the concrete will get to while its hardening but we are in Tassie so the air temp is only about 10-15 this time of year. I cant see it getting to 50deg maybe if it was quick setting then yes maybe but the slab is just standard concrete.

Originally Posted by Charlie9809

The fact is, by the time house is built, the concrete will be hard and cool. The copper pipe will not have been effected although it would have been good to wrap it in electrical tape to stop abrasion. Council will be fine with this as long as you have it in the plan, or an addition put in by the architect/engineer. So hope it goes well and cant wait to see some temps in time.

Charlie

Thanks Charlie

Originally Posted by carbon_death

Personally, i think this re-defines the term "extreme cooling" in terms of how its going to be set up.
It's definatly unique.
Well done, OP.

LOL thanks carbon_death this is a very simple thing to do. It literaly took 5min to bend the copper and throw it in under the reo. Not really that extreem just a bit of thinking ahead. I hope it works.

Originally Posted by hoonda75

Yet again you amaze me Gig's, your creativeness and resourcefulness in thinking outside the box comes up with the goods again.
So the Boss is going to let you bring your computer “stuff” inside from the shed

If I ever get around to building I will have to contract you to come and consult and build me that beer cooled PC

haha Hoonda yep slipped this one past the boss! I think we can build you a custom PC cooling solution bassed on Coopers Keg and a beer in-line cooler. Maybe even throw a tap on the side of your case for topups during those 8hour TF2 poopsock sessions

Might have to see you about getting some steel for the house build at some stage

[hoonda75]

Originally Posted by gigs

Might have to see you about getting some steel for the house build at some stage

No prob, we have an O.S. banch down there

[Benno1988]

Do a bit of FEM modelling of it

[gigs]

Originally Posted by Davo1111

I'm looking forward to benchmarks once the house is built.

PS - make sure you cover up the ends of the copper pipes, to stop water/dust/creepy crawleys/dirt from getting in the pipes.

For the benchmark I am thinking about using an aquarium water heater. I have one at 150watts. Does this mean that it will put 150watts of heat into the water? This is about the same as an i7. So I can setup a loop with the heater turned on full and measure the water temp over a period of 4 or 5 hours to see the difference between the hot side and cool side of the loop. Does this sound like a legit experiment?

The ends of the pipe are covered off with electric tape.

Originally Posted by Dezza Bot

That won't tend to bother things like lightning. I wouldn't worry about it since if lightning hits close enough to fry the pc through something buried in the slab or the ground, the fact that your pc is fried is probably going to be the least of your concerns.

Yep would be bigger things to worry about like lightning bolt coming through the roof

Originally Posted by hoonda75

No prob, we have an O.S. banch down there

Sweet, thanks Hoonda Ill give you a call some time. Still quite a few months away for that.

[gigs]

Originally Posted by Benno1988

Do a bit of FEM modelling of it

hey Benno please excuse my ignorance but wtf is FEM modelling

Im thinking females in bikins modelling next to my PC

[Benno1988]

Finite Elements Modelling

Queue Long Winded Wiki Page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finite_element_method

Can be applied to a bazllion things, but often to heat transfer through materials.

[gigs]

Originally Posted by Benno1988

Finite Elements Modelling

Queue Long Winded Wiki Page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finite_element_method

Can be applied to a bazllion things, but often to heat transfer through materials.

Oh wow thats way over my head Benno got an Idiots Guide to FEM?

[4wardtristan]

great idea

told a guy at work who is building a house at the end of the year, i think he is gonna steal your idea...ill link him to this thread

[Davo1111]

Originally Posted by gigs

For the benchmark I am thinking about using an aquarium water heater. I have one at 150watts. Does this mean that it will put 150watts of heat into the water? This is about the same as an i7. So I can setup a loop with the heater turned on full and measure the water temp over a period of 4 or 5 hours to see the difference between the hot side and cool side of the loop. Does this sound like a legit experiment?

I honestly don't know much about the water heater, but the experiment sounds good. Just run the hot water through the pipes for a few hours in order for the copper to absorb the heat. Then just take a temperature test of the water going in, and the water leaving the pipe. See what happens? At the end of the day, even if it doesn't do much - you have an extra x litres of fluid circulating through your system. Should do something for water temp..