6GB Gskill Trident F3-16000CL9T-6GBTD Preliminary Tests

eva2000 · 30th September 2009, 3:02 AM

Received a new triple channel memory kit from folks at Gskill - 6GB Gskill Trident F3-16000CL9T-6GBTD. The Gskill Trident F3-16000CL9T-6GBTD is supposedly using Elpida BBSE memory ICs, while not as capable as Elpida Hyper 50mm ICs for >DDR3-2000Mhz 7-8-7-x speeds, they still hold their own for looser timings. I'll post my preliminary results here in preparation for a larger triple channel memory kit comparison review in the works

System:

Intel Xeon W3540 3845B010
EK Supreme LT 1366 / FESER 480 / MCP655
Asus P6T6 WS Revolution
Gskill Trident F3-16000CL9T-6GBTD
512MB Inno3D 8800GT OC Edition 190.62WHQL
750GB Samsung SATA
Pioneer DVR-217 DVD-RW
Corsair HX1000 PSU
Dual Boot - WinXP Pro SP3 (nLite fully updated) with Vista Theme & Win7 Ultimate 64bit RTM

First hour using this kit and managed an overclock on these for 8x 32M Pi @DDR3-2124Mhz 9-9-9-24 1T at 1.72v. Asus P6T6 WS Revolution bios sets latencies pretty tight so good pi performance even for Win7 OS

Both 8x 32M Pi and single 32M Pi runs done in same windows session.

Shows promise, so now to let this memory kit get to know my Xeon W3540 + Asus P6T6 WS Revolution pairing

Timings and CMD Rate comparison

Some preliminary memory tests for new 6GB Gskill Trident F3-16000CL9T-6GBTD triple channel memory kit in preparation for a larger triple channel memory kit comparison review in the works

20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 99924 2T tRFC 98 1.66v 1.47500v
20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 99924 1T tRFC 98 1.66v 1.48125v
20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 89824 2T tRFC 98 1.66v 1.48125v
20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 89824 1T tRFC 98 1.66v 1.48125v
20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 79721 2T tRFC 88 1.66v 1.48750v
20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 79721 1T tRFC 88 1.72v 1.50000v
20x200bclk : 1600Mhz 67618 2T tRFC 88 1.66v 1.37500v
20x200bclk : 1600Mhz 67618 1T tRFC 88 1.66v 1.37500v

Detailed full screenshots for each configuration tested can be seen here.

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Slavetonet · 30th September 2009, 8:20 AM

Looks quite promising for these Tident F3-1600CL9T.

How much voltage can it take before it gives up?

stablez · 30th September 2009, 8:39 AM

Hey eva off topic.

LOL @ $218 3x2GB CL9 2oooMhz. cant get any cheaper though Hey hey hey.
Nothing beats CL7 GT...

My ballistx 6400 is at 4-4-5-10-(58)

can i alter it to by you a known number to get to 8 or 9 under or over 58?

What is Min to Max and in my clock of 888Mhz

thanks eva

this is my 80A DDR2-800

I just havent yet played with these settings but i know with these and there mad clockers i can get 4-4-4-8/9 and then iam needing here (Next timming) advise?

cheers eva2000..

Iam just asking in your post as you prefer non PM;]

mthien · 30th September 2009, 11:54 AM

Thanks for the results Eva.

I have the same memory and was wondering if you think running the following 24/7 is safe;
20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 89824 1T tRFC 98 1.66v 1.48125v<- (is that a bit high for 24/7?)

tarek001 · 30th September 2009, 12:04 PM

so your finally reviewing my ram.

i like some of the timings youve been able to get @ 1600mhz might try a few of those; so far i havent pushed beyond 6-7-6-20-88 @1.64v (Except when i tried 6-6-6-18-88 Fail.).

looking @ this wit interest.

here's a screenie.

Click to view full size!

stablez · 30th September 2009, 5:55 PM

There good ram at this price.

even with your tRc there is a difference than CPU-Z reading @ 1000Mhz (Your clocking it at 1600Mhz and its higher than the XMP-2000 tRC)

Though; its not making a difference unless its loosened?

How long has this series been out? Am i reading cPU-Z right?

eva2000 · 30th September 2009, 6:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slavetonet

Looks quite promising for these Tident F3-1600CL9T.

How much voltage can it take before it gives up?

indeed... from what i read the elpida bbse can take high voltage without problem but 1.85v would be usually the point where more volts won't get any higher. My kit likes 1.72v max as optimal vdimm so far.

Quote:

Originally Posted by stablez

Hey eva off topic.

LOL @ $218 3x2GB CL9 2oooMhz. cant get any cheaper though Hey hey hey.
Nothing beats CL7 GT...

My ballistx 6400 is at 4-4-5-10-(58)

can i alter it to by you a known number to get to 8 or 9 under or over 58?

What is Min to Max and in my clock of 888Mhz

thanks eva

this is my 80A DDR2-800

I just havent yet played with these settings but i know with these and there mad clockers i can get 4-4-4-8/9 and then iam needing here (Next timming) advise?

cheers eva2000..

Iam just asking in your post as you prefer non PM;]

sorry can't understand what you're asking

80A Crucials don't like 4-4-4-x for clocks won't get more than 450mhz IIRC. You want to use 5-5-5-15 for >450mhz up to 600-625mhz at least and no higher vdimm that 1.9-2.1 depending on the crucial 80a modules.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mthien

Thanks for the results Eva.

I have the same memory and was wondering if you think running the following 24/7 is safe;
20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 89824 1T tRFC 98 1.66v 1.48125v<- (is that a bit high for 24/7?)

yes high but for >1866mhz mem speeds on core i7 you usually will go beyond max intel spec'd 1.35v cpu vtt uncore max volts. For benching though it's fine. The beauty of this memory is 1600mhz 6-7-6-x ability within reasonable cpu vtt volts of 1.35-1.45v usually depending on cpu integrated mem controller quality - in the above case 1.375v.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tarek001

so your finally reviewing my ram.

i like some of the timings youve been able to get @ 1600mhz might try a few of those; so far i havent pushed beyond 6-7-6-20-88 @1.64v (Except when i tried 6-6-6-18-88 Fail.).

looking @ this wit interest.

yeah only managed to get a set from Gskill recently

Elpida BBSE can't do 1600mhz 6-6-6-x it's a tRCD thing so loosen to 6-7-6-x and it's fine

Quote:

Originally Posted by stablez

There good ram at this price.

even with your tRc there is a difference than CPU-Z reading @ 1000Mhz (Your clocking it at 1600Mhz and its higher than the XMP-2000 tRC)

Though; its not making a difference unless its loosened?

How long has this series been out? Am i reading cPU-Z right?

trident been out for ages but only recently has price dropped compared to other memory brands increasing in price due to ddr3 price rises, so the bargain value of trident is here

cpuz spd page is just spd programmed and not what is set in bios UNLESS you set memory to AUTO timings instead of manually set.

stablez · 30th September 2009, 6:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eva2000

sorry can't understand what you're asking

80A Crucials don't like 4-4-4-x for clocks won't get more than 450mhz IIRC. You want to use 5-5-5-15 for >450mhz up to 600-625mhz at least and no higher vdimm that 1.9-2.1 depending on the crucial 80a modules.

Sorry to confuse you its just looking into my CPU-Z reading and tRFC is so high i though just "Maybe" with these 80a black 2x2gb modules i might get other g.skill ddr2-800 3-4-4-8 timmings.

Just looking into how much more i can get out of these best in my hand modules.
Sorry to hijack thread.. Eva

these are good 6 gb kits for such a low price and the heatspreads are for sure future cooling where there will be no heat problems..

Thank you...

Hey eva? Have you played with the new corsair GT's?
Hows the maximum clock 4 voltage in these compared to the older release...

eva2000 · 1st October 2009, 5:09 PM

probably best to start your own thread on your crucial ddr2 memory.

I haven't played with new Corsair Dominator GT but read they're rock solid

Updated results

20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 99924 2T tRFC 98 1.66v 1.47500v
20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 99924 1T tRFC 98 1.66v 1.48125v
20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 89824 2T tRFC 98 1.66v 1.48125v
20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 89824 1T tRFC 98 1.66v 1.48125v
20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 79721 2T tRFC 88 1.66v 1.48750v
20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 79721 1T tRFC 88 1.72v 1.50000v
20x200bclk : 1600Mhz 67618 2T tRFC 88 1.66v 1.37500v
20x200bclk : 1600Mhz 67618 1T tRFC 88 1.66v 1.37500v
23x175bclk : 2100Mhz 99924 2T tRFC 98 1.70v 1.55000v
23x175bclk : 2100Mhz 99924 1T tRFC 98 1.72v 1.55000v
23x175bclk : 2100Mhz 89824 2T tRFC 98 1.72v 1.55000v
23x175bclk : 2100Mhz 89824 1T tRFC 98 1.72v 1.55000v

eva2000 · 1st October 2009, 11:43 PM

Max memory clocks @9-10-9-24 1T at 1.76v

Folks are reporting higher head room mhz with 9-10-9-x timings for Elpida BBSE, and I can confirm that is correct. With 9-9-9-24 this trident kit maxing out 32M around DDR3-2124mhz with ceiling of semi-stability around 2160mhz. With 9-10-9-24 timings same trident kit pushed 32M pi @DDR3=2220mhz and managed validation @DDR3-2281Mhz all at 1.76v vdimm and 1.65v QPI/DRAM uncore volts.

System:

Intel Xeon W3540 3845B010
EK Supreme LT 1366 / FESER 480 / MCP655
Asus P6T6 WS Revolution
Gskill Trident F3-16000CL9T-6GBTD
512MB Inno3D 8800GT OC Edition 190.62WHQL
750GB Samsung SATA
Pioneer DVR-217 DVD-RW
Corsair HX1000 PSU
Dual Boot - WinXP Pro SP3 (nLite fully updated) with Vista Theme & Win7 Ultimate 64bit RTM

Max Validation @DDR3-2281Mhz 9-10-9-24 1T at 1.76v

Max Screenshot @DDR3-2267Mhz 9-10-9-24 1T at 1.76v

Max Super Pi 32M @DDR3-2220Mhz 9-10-9-24 1T at 1.76v

eva2000 · 5th October 2009, 1:50 AM

New personal best cpuz memory validation and first time breaking DDR3-2300Mhz for triple channel on X58 @DDR3-2305Mhz 9-10-9-24 1T at 1.78v. Previous best was @DDR3-2298Mhz 9-9-9-24 with 3GB Samsung HCF0 modules.

System:

Intel Xeon W3540 3845B010
EK Supreme LT 1366 / FESER 480 / MCP655
Asus P6T6 WS Revolution
Gskill Trident F3-16000CL9T-6GBTD
512MB Inno3D 8800GT OC Edition 190.62WHQL
750GB Samsung SATA
Pioneer DVR-217 DVD-RW
Corsair HX1000 PSU
Dual Boot - WinXP Pro SP3 (nLite fully updated) with Vista Theme & Win7 Ultimate 64bit RTM

Max Validation @DDR3-2305Mhz 9-10-9-24 1T at 1.78v

QPI/DRAM = 1.65625v
VDIMM = 1.78v
Uncore frequency = 4608Mhz

Super Pi 2M @DDR3-2256Mhz 9-10-9-24 1T at 1.78v

RAMMAN · 5th October 2009, 10:11 AM

do you plan on doing any sub zero overclocking on these modules just to see the absolute limit of what they can do?

eva2000 · 6th October 2009, 4:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RAMMAN

do you plan on doing any sub zero overclocking on these modules just to see the absolute limit of what they can do?

Unfortunately, no plans for sub zero on memory heh.

Team.AU · 6th October 2009, 10:01 AM

nice results so far george,

i think subzero on the cpu would be of much more benefit to tame that uncore

RAMMAN · 6th October 2009, 11:19 AM

so these have more headroom than elpida hypers? but at the cost of loose latencies?

30th September 2009, 3:02 AM	#1
eva2000 DDR1/DDR2/DDR3 Addict Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 21,887	6GB Gskill Trident F3-16000CL9T-6GBTD Preliminary Tests Received a new triple channel memory kit from folks at Gskill - 6GB Gskill Trident F3-16000CL9T-6GBTD. The Gskill Trident F3-16000CL9T-6GBTD is supposedly using Elpida BBSE memory ICs, while not as capable as Elpida Hyper 50mm ICs for >DDR3-2000Mhz 7-8-7-x speeds, they still hold their own for looser timings. I'll post my preliminary results here in preparation for a larger triple channel memory kit comparison review in the works System: Intel Xeon W3540 3845B010 EK Supreme LT 1366 / FESER 480 / MCP655 Asus P6T6 WS Revolution Gskill Trident F3-16000CL9T-6GBTD 512MB Inno3D 8800GT OC Edition 190.62WHQL 750GB Samsung SATA Pioneer DVR-217 DVD-RW Corsair HX1000 PSU Dual Boot - WinXP Pro SP3 (nLite fully updated) with Vista Theme & Win7 Ultimate 64bit RTM First hour using this kit and managed an overclock on these for 8x 32M Pi @DDR3-2124Mhz 9-9-9-24 1T at 1.72v. Asus P6T6 WS Revolution bios sets latencies pretty tight so good pi performance even for Win7 OS Both 8x 32M Pi and single 32M Pi runs done in same windows session. Shows promise, so now to let this memory kit get to know my Xeon W3540 + Asus P6T6 WS Revolution pairing Timings and CMD Rate comparison Some preliminary memory tests for new 6GB Gskill Trident F3-16000CL9T-6GBTD triple channel memory kit in preparation for a larger triple channel memory kit comparison review in the works 20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 99924 2T tRFC 98 1.66v 1.47500v 20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 99924 1T tRFC 98 1.66v 1.48125v 20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 89824 2T tRFC 98 1.66v 1.48125v 20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 89824 1T tRFC 98 1.66v 1.48125v 20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 79721 2T tRFC 88 1.66v 1.48750v 20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 79721 1T tRFC 88 1.72v 1.50000v 20x200bclk : 1600Mhz 67618 2T tRFC 88 1.66v 1.37500v 20x200bclk : 1600Mhz 67618 1T tRFC 88 1.66v 1.37500v Detailed full screenshots for each configuration tested can be seen here. . __________________ * Questions about memory? No PMs Ask on forums * i7 980X Club @4844mhz H20 * Asus P6T6 WS Revo - W3540 @4821 H20 \| W3570 @4997Mhz H20 \| DFI UT X58-T3EH8 USB3.0

30th September 2009, 8:20 AM	#2
Slavetonet Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 1,210	Looks quite promising for these Tident F3-1600CL9T. How much voltage can it take before it gives up? __________________ LIFE IS TOO SHORT! GO ALL OUT ON EVERYTHING YOU DO!

30th September 2009, 8:39 AM	#3
stablez Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Humidycrib Posts: 4,043	Hey eva off topic. LOL @ $218 3x2GB CL9 2oooMhz. cant get any cheaper though Hey hey hey. Nothing beats CL7 GT... My ballistx 6400 is at 4-4-5-10-(58) can i alter it to by you a known number to get to 8 or 9 under or over 58? What is Min to Max and in my clock of 888Mhz thanks eva this is my 80A DDR2-800 I just havent yet played with these settings but i know with these and there mad clockers i can get 4-4-4-8/9 and then iam needing here (Next timming) advise? cheers eva2000.. Iam just asking in your post as you prefer non PM;] __________________ Apple G4 @ 1.29Ghz 1GB DDR SDRAM aTi 9000 Shawtys love is like a pyramid Aint nothing on you bAby.. [I]Venus vs Mars.[/I] A wide world rider. ]So true eh Use ware so good to me and made me as smart. Ta! WAT$UBZ Last edited by stablez; 30th September 2009 at 12:00 PM.

30th September 2009, 5:55 PM	#6
stablez Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Humidycrib Posts: 4,043	There good ram at this price. even with your tRc there is a difference than CPU-Z reading @ 1000Mhz (Your clocking it at 1600Mhz and its higher than the XMP-2000 tRC) Though; its not making a difference unless its loosened? How long has this series been out? Am i reading cPU-Z right? __________________ Apple G4 @ 1.29Ghz 1GB DDR SDRAM aTi 9000 Shawtys love is like a pyramid Aint nothing on you bAby.. [I]Venus vs Mars.[/I] A wide world rider. ]So true eh Use ware so good to me and made me as smart. Ta! WAT$UBZ

1st October 2009, 5:09 PM	#9
eva2000 DDR1/DDR2/DDR3 Addict Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 21,887	probably best to start your own thread on your crucial ddr2 memory. I haven't played with new Corsair Dominator GT but read they're rock solid Updated results 20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 99924 2T tRFC 98 1.66v 1.47500v 20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 99924 1T tRFC 98 1.66v 1.48125v 20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 89824 2T tRFC 98 1.66v 1.48125v 20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 89824 1T tRFC 98 1.66v 1.48125v 20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 79721 2T tRFC 88 1.66v 1.48750v 20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 79721 1T tRFC 88 1.72v 1.50000v 20x200bclk : 1600Mhz 67618 2T tRFC 88 1.66v 1.37500v 20x200bclk : 1600Mhz 67618 1T tRFC 88 1.66v 1.37500v 23x175bclk : 2100Mhz 99924 2T tRFC 98 1.70v 1.55000v 23x175bclk : 2100Mhz 99924 1T tRFC 98 1.72v 1.55000v 23x175bclk : 2100Mhz 89824 2T tRFC 98 1.72v 1.55000v 23x175bclk : 2100Mhz 89824 1T tRFC 98 1.72v 1.55000v

30th September 2009, 11:54 AM	#4
mthien Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Melbourne, Glenny Posts: 109	Thanks for the results Eva. I have the same memory and was wondering if you think running the following 24/7 is safe; 20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 89824 1T tRFC 98 1.66v 1.48125v<- (is that a bit high for 24/7?)

1st October 2009, 11:43 PM	#10
eva2000 DDR1/DDR2/DDR3 Addict Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 21,887	Max memory clocks @9-10-9-24 1T at 1.76v Folks are reporting higher head room mhz with 9-10-9-x timings for Elpida BBSE, and I can confirm that is correct. With 9-9-9-24 this trident kit maxing out 32M around DDR3-2124mhz with ceiling of semi-stability around 2160mhz. With 9-10-9-24 timings same trident kit pushed 32M pi @DDR3=2220mhz and managed validation @DDR3-2281Mhz all at 1.76v vdimm and 1.65v QPI/DRAM uncore volts. System: Intel Xeon W3540 3845B010 EK Supreme LT 1366 / FESER 480 / MCP655 Asus P6T6 WS Revolution Gskill Trident F3-16000CL9T-6GBTD 512MB Inno3D 8800GT OC Edition 190.62WHQL 750GB Samsung SATA Pioneer DVR-217 DVD-RW Corsair HX1000 PSU Dual Boot - WinXP Pro SP3 (nLite fully updated) with Vista Theme & Win7 Ultimate 64bit RTM Max Validation @DDR3-2281Mhz 9-10-9-24 1T at 1.76v Max Screenshot @DDR3-2267Mhz 9-10-9-24 1T at 1.76v Max Super Pi 32M @DDR3-2220Mhz 9-10-9-24 1T at 1.76v __________________ * Questions about memory? No PMs Ask on forums * i7 980X Club @4844mhz H20 * Asus P6T6 WS Revo - W3540 @4821 H20 \| W3570 @4997Mhz H20 \| DFI UT X58-T3EH8 USB3.0

5th October 2009, 1:50 AM	#11
eva2000 DDR1/DDR2/DDR3 Addict Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 21,887	New personal best cpuz memory validation and first time breaking DDR3-2300Mhz for triple channel on X58 @DDR3-2305Mhz 9-10-9-24 1T at 1.78v. Previous best was @DDR3-2298Mhz 9-9-9-24 with 3GB Samsung HCF0 modules. System: Intel Xeon W3540 3845B010 EK Supreme LT 1366 / FESER 480 / MCP655 Asus P6T6 WS Revolution Gskill Trident F3-16000CL9T-6GBTD 512MB Inno3D 8800GT OC Edition 190.62WHQL 750GB Samsung SATA Pioneer DVR-217 DVD-RW Corsair HX1000 PSU Dual Boot - WinXP Pro SP3 (nLite fully updated) with Vista Theme & Win7 Ultimate 64bit RTM Max Validation @DDR3-2305Mhz 9-10-9-24 1T at 1.78v QPI/DRAM = 1.65625v VDIMM = 1.78v Uncore frequency = 4608Mhz Super Pi 2M @DDR3-2256Mhz 9-10-9-24 1T at 1.78v __________________ * Questions about memory? No PMs Ask on forums * i7 980X Club @4844mhz H20 * Asus P6T6 WS Revo - W3540 @4821 H20 \| W3570 @4997Mhz H20 \| DFI UT X58-T3EH8 USB3.0 Last edited by eva2000; 5th October 2009 at 2:03 AM.

5th October 2009, 10:11 AM	#12
RAMMAN Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Gold Coast Posts: 130	do you plan on doing any sub zero overclocking on these modules just to see the absolute limit of what they can do? __________________ xfx gtx260 896mb , core 2 extreme qx9650 , 2x1gb crucial ballistix pc2 6400 , gigabyte p35-ds3p , 74gb raptor , 750w thermaltake toughpower with 22in lcd and razer deathadder+exactmat.

6th October 2009, 10:01 AM	#14
Team.AU Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 251	nice results so far george, i think subzero on the cpu would be of much more benefit to tame that uncore

6th October 2009, 11:19 AM	#15
RAMMAN Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Gold Coast Posts: 130	so these have more headroom than elpida hypers? but at the cost of loose latencies? __________________ xfx gtx260 896mb , core 2 extreme qx9650 , 2x1gb crucial ballistix pc2 6400 , gigabyte p35-ds3p , 74gb raptor , 750w thermaltake toughpower with 22in lcd and razer deathadder+exactmat.