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Old 30th September 2009, 3:02 AM   #1
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Talking 6GB Gskill Trident F3-16000CL9T-6GBTD Preliminary Tests

Received a new triple channel memory kit from folks at Gskill - 6GB Gskill Trident F3-16000CL9T-6GBTD. The Gskill Trident F3-16000CL9T-6GBTD is supposedly using Elpida BBSE memory ICs, while not as capable as Elpida Hyper 50mm ICs for >DDR3-2000Mhz 7-8-7-x speeds, they still hold their own for looser timings. I'll post my preliminary results here in preparation for a larger triple channel memory kit comparison review in the works




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First hour using this kit and managed an overclock on these for 8x 32M Pi @DDR3-2124Mhz 9-9-9-24 1T at 1.72v. Asus P6T6 WS Revolution bios sets latencies pretty tight so good pi performance even for Win7 OS

Both 8x 32M Pi and single 32M Pi runs done in same windows session.





Shows promise, so now to let this memory kit get to know my Xeon W3540 + Asus P6T6 WS Revolution pairing

Timings and CMD Rate comparison


Some preliminary memory tests for new 6GB Gskill Trident F3-16000CL9T-6GBTD triple channel memory kit in preparation for a larger triple channel memory kit comparison review in the works
  • 20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 99924 2T tRFC 98 1.66v 1.47500v
  • 20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 99924 1T tRFC 98 1.66v 1.48125v
  • 20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 89824 2T tRFC 98 1.66v 1.48125v
  • 20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 89824 1T tRFC 98 1.66v 1.48125v
  • 20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 79721 2T tRFC 88 1.66v 1.48750v
  • 20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 79721 1T tRFC 88 1.72v 1.50000v
  • 20x200bclk : 1600Mhz 67618 2T tRFC 88 1.66v 1.37500v
  • 20x200bclk : 1600Mhz 67618 1T tRFC 88 1.66v 1.37500v



Detailed full screenshots for each configuration tested can be seen here.


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Old 30th September 2009, 8:20 AM   #2
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Looks quite promising for these Tident F3-1600CL9T.

How much voltage can it take before it gives up?
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Old 30th September 2009, 8:39 AM   #3
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Hey eva off topic.

LOL @ $218 3x2GB CL9 2oooMhz. cant get any cheaper though Hey hey hey.
Nothing beats CL7 GT...

My ballistx 6400 is at 4-4-5-10-(58)

can i alter it to by you a known number to get to 8 or 9 under or over 58?

What is Min to Max and in my clock of 888Mhz

thanks eva

this is my 80A DDR2-800

I just havent yet played with these settings but i know with these and there mad clockers i can get 4-4-4-8/9 and then iam needing here (Next timming) advise?

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Old 30th September 2009, 11:54 AM   #4
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Thanks for the results Eva.

I have the same memory and was wondering if you think running the following 24/7 is safe;
20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 89824 1T tRFC 98 1.66v 1.48125v<- (is that a bit high for 24/7?)
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Old 30th September 2009, 12:04 PM   #5
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so your finally reviewing my ram.
i like some of the timings youve been able to get @ 1600mhz might try a few of those; so far i havent pushed beyond 6-7-6-20-88 @1.64v (Except when i tried 6-6-6-18-88 Fail.).

looking @ this wit interest.

here's a screenie.

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Old 30th September 2009, 5:55 PM   #6
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There good ram at this price.
even with your tRc there is a difference than CPU-Z reading @ 1000Mhz (Your clocking it at 1600Mhz and its higher than the XMP-2000 tRC)

Though; its not making a difference unless its loosened?

How long has this series been out? Am i reading cPU-Z right?
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Old 30th September 2009, 6:18 PM   #7
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Looks quite promising for these Tident F3-1600CL9T.

How much voltage can it take before it gives up?
indeed... from what i read the elpida bbse can take high voltage without problem but 1.85v would be usually the point where more volts won't get any higher. My kit likes 1.72v max as optimal vdimm so far.

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Hey eva off topic.

LOL @ $218 3x2GB CL9 2oooMhz. cant get any cheaper though Hey hey hey.
Nothing beats CL7 GT...

My ballistx 6400 is at 4-4-5-10-(58)

can i alter it to by you a known number to get to 8 or 9 under or over 58?

What is Min to Max and in my clock of 888Mhz

thanks eva

this is my 80A DDR2-800

I just havent yet played with these settings but i know with these and there mad clockers i can get 4-4-4-8/9 and then iam needing here (Next timming) advise?

cheers eva2000..

Iam just asking in your post as you prefer non PM;]
sorry can't understand what you're asking 80A Crucials don't like 4-4-4-x for clocks won't get more than 450mhz IIRC. You want to use 5-5-5-15 for >450mhz up to 600-625mhz at least and no higher vdimm that 1.9-2.1 depending on the crucial 80a modules.


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Thanks for the results Eva.

I have the same memory and was wondering if you think running the following 24/7 is safe;
20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 89824 1T tRFC 98 1.66v 1.48125v<- (is that a bit high for 24/7?)
yes high but for >1866mhz mem speeds on core i7 you usually will go beyond max intel spec'd 1.35v cpu vtt uncore max volts. For benching though it's fine. The beauty of this memory is 1600mhz 6-7-6-x ability within reasonable cpu vtt volts of 1.35-1.45v usually depending on cpu integrated mem controller quality - in the above case 1.375v.

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so your finally reviewing my ram.
i like some of the timings youve been able to get @ 1600mhz might try a few of those; so far i havent pushed beyond 6-7-6-20-88 @1.64v (Except when i tried 6-6-6-18-88 Fail.).

looking @ this wit interest.

yeah only managed to get a set from Gskill recently Elpida BBSE can't do 1600mhz 6-6-6-x it's a tRCD thing so loosen to 6-7-6-x and it's fine

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There good ram at this price.
even with your tRc there is a difference than CPU-Z reading @ 1000Mhz (Your clocking it at 1600Mhz and its higher than the XMP-2000 tRC)

Though; its not making a difference unless its loosened?

How long has this series been out? Am i reading cPU-Z right?
trident been out for ages but only recently has price dropped compared to other memory brands increasing in price due to ddr3 price rises, so the bargain value of trident is here cpuz spd page is just spd programmed and not what is set in bios UNLESS you set memory to AUTO timings instead of manually set.
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sorry can't understand what you're asking 80A Crucials don't like 4-4-4-x for clocks won't get more than 450mhz IIRC. You want to use 5-5-5-15 for >450mhz up to 600-625mhz at least and no higher vdimm that 1.9-2.1 depending on the crucial 80a modules.
Sorry to confuse you its just looking into my CPU-Z reading and tRFC is so high i though just "Maybe" with these 80a black 2x2gb modules i might get other g.skill ddr2-800 3-4-4-8 timmings.

Just looking into how much more i can get out of these best in my hand modules.
Sorry to hijack thread.. Eva

these are good 6 gb kits for such a low price and the heatspreads are for sure future cooling where there will be no heat problems..

Thank you...

Hey eva? Have you played with the new corsair GT's?
Hows the maximum clock 4 voltage in these compared to the older release...
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Old 1st October 2009, 5:09 PM   #9
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probably best to start your own thread on your crucial ddr2 memory.

I haven't played with new Corsair Dominator GT but read they're rock solid

Updated results
  • 20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 99924 2T tRFC 98 1.66v 1.47500v
  • 20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 99924 1T tRFC 98 1.66v 1.48125v
  • 20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 89824 2T tRFC 98 1.66v 1.48125v
  • 20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 89824 1T tRFC 98 1.66v 1.48125v
  • 20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 79721 2T tRFC 88 1.66v 1.48750v
  • 20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 79721 1T tRFC 88 1.72v 1.50000v
  • 20x200bclk : 1600Mhz 67618 2T tRFC 88 1.66v 1.37500v
  • 20x200bclk : 1600Mhz 67618 1T tRFC 88 1.66v 1.37500v
  • 23x175bclk : 2100Mhz 99924 2T tRFC 98 1.70v 1.55000v
  • 23x175bclk : 2100Mhz 99924 1T tRFC 98 1.72v 1.55000v
  • 23x175bclk : 2100Mhz 89824 2T tRFC 98 1.72v 1.55000v
  • 23x175bclk : 2100Mhz 89824 1T tRFC 98 1.72v 1.55000v


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Max memory clocks @9-10-9-24 1T at 1.76v


Folks are reporting higher head room mhz with 9-10-9-x timings for Elpida BBSE, and I can confirm that is correct. With 9-9-9-24 this trident kit maxing out 32M around DDR3-2124mhz with ceiling of semi-stability around 2160mhz. With 9-10-9-24 timings same trident kit pushed 32M pi @DDR3=2220mhz and managed validation @DDR3-2281Mhz all at 1.76v vdimm and 1.65v QPI/DRAM uncore volts.

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Max Validation @DDR3-2281Mhz 9-10-9-24 1T at 1.76v






Max Screenshot @DDR3-2267Mhz 9-10-9-24 1T at 1.76v




Max Super Pi 32M @DDR3-2220Mhz 9-10-9-24 1T at 1.76v


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New personal best cpuz memory validation and first time breaking DDR3-2300Mhz for triple channel on X58 @DDR3-2305Mhz 9-10-9-24 1T at 1.78v. Previous best was @DDR3-2298Mhz 9-9-9-24 with 3GB Samsung HCF0 modules.

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Max Validation @DDR3-2305Mhz 9-10-9-24 1T at 1.78v


QPI/DRAM = 1.65625v
VDIMM = 1.78v
Uncore frequency = 4608Mhz






Super Pi 2M @DDR3-2256Mhz 9-10-9-24 1T at 1.78v

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Old 5th October 2009, 10:11 AM   #12
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do you plan on doing any sub zero overclocking on these modules just to see the absolute limit of what they can do?
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do you plan on doing any sub zero overclocking on these modules just to see the absolute limit of what they can do?
Unfortunately, no plans for sub zero on memory heh.
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nice results so far george,

i think subzero on the cpu would be of much more benefit to tame that uncore
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so these have more headroom than elpida hypers? but at the cost of loose latencies?
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