Athlon II X2 240 or E5300? the better overclocker?

[omari79]

which one?

[unco_tomato]

Not that I have had much experience with the Athlon 240, I can say that the E5300 clocks very very well. I have seen people getting 4Ghz on this core. I have personally reached 3.6Ghz very stable (15+ Hours Prime95) on a $40 Aywun V6 air cooler.

I have seen the 240 around 3.4Ghz but not too much higher on long stable clocks, but I have not personally overclocked one myself. So I cannot speak from experience.

I would go with the E5300.... or if you can afford that little bit extra, go for the E6300 for the 1066 bus instead of the 800 bus on the E5300.

[S-Kimo]

Originally Posted by omari79

which one?

Go with Intel

[salochin]

Originally Posted by unco_tomato

I would go with the E5300.... or if you can afford that little bit extra, go for the E6300 for the 1066 bus instead of the 800 bus on the E5300.

I'd favour having a lower default FSB speed because you get a higher multiplier. You can get ~3.5Ghz out of an E5300 just by setting the FSB to 1066mhz.

[King_Geek]

I have to say go with intel.

Built a PC running the 5300 other day.

Goes really well. Id say you'd get an almighty overclock with a good PSU and Motherboard.

[S-Kimo]

even on a cheap mobo those can clock to atleast 3.2 on stock with comfortable temps. I did some overclocking with a mates one and it had very low temps, although i did change the heatsink to the stock one off my Q9400 which was copper.

[mAJORD]

well given they're about the same clock/clock..

The athlon II should do around 3.4 or so stable on the stock Alu heatsink.

Strap an aftermarket on and it depends entirely on how good the cooler is.. 3.6-3.8 would pull it up with some voltage pushed into it.

So It's going to be much of a muchness in the end, If anything the E5300 will have a chance of higher clocks with aftermarket cooling. I really don't know how realistic a 4Ghz is with one, but the X2 won't hit that on air without a miracle.

not going to be much in it in the end.. choose either depending on how the rest of the platformm looks (Mobo choices, etc)

[unco_tomato]

even if you clocked both to 3.5 or 3.6 the intel would smash the AMD core.

[TaroT]

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/A...X2_240/12.html

not sure what your talking about...show me smashing....

[Tenoq]

As others have said - odds are better on overclocking the E5300. If overclocking is your only interest you should pick the Intel.

That said, a key difference between the E5300 and the X2 240 (IMO) is the lack of virtualisation tech on the E5300. All the current AMD CPUs support virtualisation - but only the high-end Intel chips enable that feature.

If you need or ever want to run a VM with hardware support (such as Windows XP-Mode in Win7) you'll need to go AMD, or at least an E8x00 in the Intel range. Older Intel E6x00 ones support virtualisation also, but NOT the new Pentium E6300.

[Mensuri]

Dont forget your upgrade options.

3.8 Ghz E5300 vs 3.4Ghz Athlon II 240 now leads to
max of Q9550 vs possible 6 core PII

at least the AM3 socket will still be supported for the next 12 months whereas the 775 socket is already gonskis.

trade of i guess - a little bit more performance now at the expence of greater upgrade options later.

[n2p4u]

go the AMD.... I have a 550BE and a E6300 for a hackintosh project... both overclock like mofos.... but amd combo is much better then intel @ lower price point

[mshagg]

Which board? You gonna put a $90 chip in a $300 board lol?

Ive built cheapie systems with both the 240 and the e5300 and found the AMD easier to clock on the cheapie gigabyte mobos.

[salochin]

Originally Posted by Tenoq

That said, a key difference between the E5300 and the X2 240 (IMO) is the lack of virtualisation tech on the E5300. All the current AMD CPUs support virtualisation - but only the high-end Intel chips enable that feature.

If you need or ever want to run a VM with hardware support (such as Windows XP-Mode in Win7) you'll need to go AMD, or at least an E8x00 in the Intel range. Older Intel E6x00 ones support virtualisation also, but NOT the new Pentium E6300.

I'm pretty sure the newer E5300's and E6300's (Pentium dual core) do support virtualisation technology.

http://forums.overclockers.com.au/sh...d.php?t=829195

And XP mode is only in Professional and Ultimate (and enterprise) isn't it?

[omari79]

Originally Posted by Tenoq

As others have said - odds are better on overclocking the E5300. If overclocking is your only interest you should pick the Intel.

That said, a key difference between the E5300 and the X2 240 (IMO) is the lack of virtualisation tech on the E5300. All the current AMD CPUs support virtualisation - but only the high-end Intel chips enable that feature.

If you need or ever want to run a VM with hardware support (such as Windows XP-Mode in Win7) you'll need to go AMD, or at least an E8x00 in the Intel range. Older Intel E6x00 ones support virtualisation also, but NOT the new Pentium E6300.

As salochin said, the new 2009 (my new E5300) with spec: SLGTL supports VT, not that i care about it cause i am running XP SP2 on my 160GB right now and planning to buy a 320gb + an Nvidia or ATI DX11 (which selection proves better will be clear in the next 2-3 months when Nvidia rolls out its DX11 cards) + WIN7 SP1 (4-5months from now)

Since DX11 + Win 7 + DX11 cards are new, its wiser to wait a bit until the requirements and choices are clear since my upgrade will be for games and i don't like to make quick but regrettable choices

I am using a 720P plasma screen and the max res for me is 1270 x 720 so i don't need a high end CPU + GPU, a combination of my E5300 @ 3.5 + HD5770-HD5750 level GPU will be just enough for me to enjoy the full glory of DX11 games at a modest res, and if needs be, Anti aliasing is always within the card's power