General Photography banter thread - Page 93

Frankeh · 28th December 2010, 10:36 PM

Wanting to get a 50mm lens for my D3100

The Nikon Nikkor AF 50mm 50 f/1.8 D a good start or another cheap 50mm I should be looking at instead?

ToanIsAnIdiot · 29th December 2010, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by SyN

im in hong kong!
saw a shop selling a second hand gf1 body, looks to be in perfect condition for aud253...

sounds like a bargain. bh sells it for usd400 brand new

lenses are quite expensive. is it worth it just to get it for my F mount lenses and maybe get a c mount 25 1.4/1.2 ? how hard (or easy) is manual focus?
some of my F mounts are manual focus (smooth long focus throw)

Sounds like a great price, I definitely love my GF1. Hard to say "go for it" without the 20mm 1.7 though.

The bright lcd does help to see the selective focus "pop" when manually focusing and the ability to magnify the focus region does help to make sure of focus accuracy. But holding it away from the body, one hand on the lens focusing, the other on a tiny body, it doesnt feel as solid for me as i'd like, especially with long lenses or if you want to take the shot quickly. Or maybe I just need more practice.

The evf for the GF1 is alright, not great though and costs more money. I read that the ones in the GH/G's are better? F mounts do well, just keep in mind the 2x crop and lack of aperture ring on G lenses.

But I did enjoy walking around with a 50mm 1.4 Canon FD on my GF1 today.

C0L0N3L · 29th December 2010, 1:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Frankeh

Wanting to get a 50mm lens for my D3100

The Nikon Nikkor AF 50mm 50 f/1.8 D a good start or another cheap 50mm I should be looking at instead?

You won't get AF with the 1.8D on the D3100.

To get AF you'll have to go the nikkor 1.4G which from what ive seen has painfully slow AF anyway. Maybe the sigma 1.4 would be the best option.

Danylu · 29th December 2010, 1:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Frankeh;

Wanting to get a 50mm lens for my D3100

The Nikon Nikkor AF 50mm 50 f/1.8 D a good start or another cheap 50mm I should be looking at instead?

the 35mm 1.8 which is a much better walk around focal length compared to 50mm on the D3100

Frankeh · 29th December 2010, 9:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Danylu

the 35mm 1.8 which is a much better walk around focal length compared to 50mm on the D3100

35mm is too wide for what I want to use it for, but agreed.

Nikkor 1.4G is 3x the price; I can handle only having manual focus.

Danylu · 29th December 2010, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankeh

35mm is too wide for what I want to use it for, but agreed.

Nikkor 1.4G is 3x the price; I can handle only having manual focus.

Fair enough

You havent actually said what you wanted the lens for so can't help you in that regard

Frankeh · 29th December 2010, 12:52 PM

Very true. Bokeh to start off with.

Also any recommendations on where I can grab one of the 50mm lenses, a cheap CPL and an ND filter in Melbourne thats not Teds/JB/Michaels? or are they reasonably prices?

Kind of leaving this stuff to the last minute before the trip.

vindicator · 29th December 2010, 1:02 PM

You mean shallow depth of field?

Can't recommend the 35mm f/1.8 enough.

50mm on a crop body is awkward.

Intric8 · 29th December 2010, 1:08 PM

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Originally Posted by vindicator

You mean shallow depth of field?

Can't recommend the 35mm f/1.8 enough.

50mm on a crop body is awkward.

Agreed. For this reason, I'm considering selling off my FA50 f1.4.

Frankeh · 29th December 2010, 1:24 PM

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Originally Posted by vindicator

You mean shallow depth of field?

Can't recommend the 35mm f/1.8 enough.

50mm on a crop body is awkward.

Wouldn't a 35mm be too wide to do bokeh type stuff with?
They are double the price, big difference in quality between the two in terms of picture quality?

This is what I'm hoping to achieve
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4086/...ae38d810_z.jpg
Tried with the 18-55mm lens that came with the camera which gave me the star effect on the lights rather easily but near impossible to focus on anything in the foreground at f5

vindicator · 29th December 2010, 1:30 PM

I believe that I understand what you are saying, but you are using the wrong terminology.

I believe that you are referring to subject isolation via shallow depth of field.

That is where the subject is in focus and the rest is out of focus.

Bokeh refers to the aesthetic quality of the out of focus areas.

Here is a the Nikon 35mm f/1.8 flickr group sorted by interestingness (what ever that means).

As you can see it is perfectly capable.

Frankeh · 29th December 2010, 1:35 PM

With the 35mm the auto focus will work too?

SyN · 30th December 2010, 2:30 AM

35 is magic on d3100.
50 1.8d not so much....

it costs peanuts in camera land terms

^catalyst · 30th December 2010, 11:24 AM

Yeah, I'd be inclined to go the 35DX myself.

Awesomesauce · 30th December 2010, 11:28 AM

is the 35 f/2 canon any good? spent the day with my 50/1.8 yesterday and remembered that it's awesome.

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vindicator Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: LoNoSho Posts: 6,489	I believe that I understand what you are saying, but you are using the wrong terminology. I believe that you are referring to subject isolation via shallow depth of field. That is where the subject is in focus and the rest is out of focus. Bokeh refers to the aesthetic quality of the out of focus areas. Here is a the Nikon 35mm f/1.8 flickr group sorted by interestingness (what ever that means). As you can see it is perfectly capable. __________________ Sucessfully sold to: JeffK, Pzest, Hardboiled, chugga15, havoc_1710, Surge, bondy_112, TRiN, kangfu, maddcore, hobo-jo, dwdc, Nanokillaz, PooJou, $tealthFiga, smoothunit, Wozzernux, core2dubious Sucessfully bought from: actinium, kogi, z2177199

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Frankeh (Banned or Deleted) Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 396	Wanting to get a 50mm lens for my D3100 The Nikon Nikkor AF 50mm 50 f/1.8 D a good start or another cheap 50mm I should be looking at instead?

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Frankeh (Banned or Deleted) Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 396	Very true. Bokeh to start off with. Also any recommendations on where I can grab one of the 50mm lenses, a cheap CPL and an ND filter in Melbourne thats not Teds/JB/Michaels? or are they reasonably prices? Kind of leaving this stuff to the last minute before the trip.

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Frankeh (Banned or Deleted) Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 396	With the 35mm the auto focus will work too?

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^catalyst Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: melbourne Posts: 10,027	Yeah, I'd be inclined to go the 35DX myself.

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Awesomesauce (Banned or Deleted) Join Date: May 2009 Location: Blue Mountains Posts: 826	is the 35 f/2 canon any good? spent the day with my 50/1.8 yesterday and remembered that it's awesome.