My wicked raid arrays, your thoughts?

STUdog · 1st February 2010, 10:14 AM

Heya Guys

Will I managed to add a Dell/LSI Perc 5/i to my system, After a bit of messing around finall got it working

First off the Perc 5 would not scan for drives, would just sit there blinking, then I messed around in the mobo Bios and enabled some GFX PCIE features and boom next reboot it all worked,

I was even more surprised when after the perc 5 bios finished my Highpoint bios ran and completed,

Also added a heatsink with fan to the Perc 5 as these are from Dell servers that have forced airflow, these cards run very very hot.

I added 4x 1.5tb 7200rpm seagates to the perc 5, yes only 4 out of the 8 ports as I have no more room in the case, 21 hdds with water cooling and a gtx 295 in 1 case is not easy

Here is a pic ive done up with a few benches

Let me know what you think

Had someone from another forum request a pic so thought id post it on here

The sizes of the partitions mess with HD Tune and show a false reading

Total space in the system is about 31tb

Alos just before people starting thinking im crazy with raid 0, I have all my data backed up, important data backed up twice, If a drive dies it would be faster to get a new drive, create array again and copy the data off a mate,

rather than using raid 5 and waiting 1 week for rebuild. I have also had 1 array going for 1 year straight so far. These raid cards are good and the only way to lose data is by a failed hdd, not be knocking a sata cable etc, which I have done many times.

Cheers

STudog

neotheo · 1st February 2010, 10:30 AM

I think your asking for trouble having 31TB as raid 0. Do you backup?

iNoob · 1st February 2010, 10:34 AM

fully sick bro!

STUdog · 1st February 2010, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neotheo

I think your asking for trouble having 31TB as raid 0. Do you backup?

Ok edited original post

neotheo · 1st February 2010, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STUdog

Ok edited original post

In that case. Awesome. I have been on the lookout for a decent raid card, the highpoint 2xxx range is what I will probably go with.

STUdog · 1st February 2010, 10:46 AM

Yea they are an amazing card for the price,

I had a 2320 for a while, nice little card, Although one thing to remember they arent very good for raid 5 or 6, The 2xxx series lack a cpu and memory onboard, but these are great cards for raid0

If you are after raid 5 or 6 id go for a Dell perc 5/i, they can be found on ebay for around $200-$300 with 256mb ecc mem and bat backup, these are a great little card

There is a large review/testing thread here on the perc5: http://www.overclock.net/raid-contro...card-tips.html

Very handy info

issa2006 · 1st February 2010, 3:28 PM

8 hdd in r0, def will break, 1 will drop out, just a mater of time(0-3 years), esp if they are not enterprise, (ie standard/green)

STUdog · 1st February 2010, 3:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by issa2006

8 hdd in r0, def will break, 1 will drop out, just a mater of time(0-3 years), esp if they are not enterprise, (ie standard/green)

If its 1 every 3 years im happy with that, would prob rebuilt b4 then anyway,

and what do your mean by drop out, HDD die or just unplug

As atm in my arrays hdds drop off every now and then, windows just says array locked hdd lost from array, i shutdown and plug back in and all good again,

And also there is no good raid type for holding 10tb+ of data, even the most redundant arrays will still take days to rebuild and would have to replace the dead drive anyway, it would be faster to copy the data off my mate once ive replaced the drive and recreated the array

titan87 · 1st February 2010, 5:52 PM

you do know you can still use raid 5/6 while it is rebuilding it is not like you are locked out until it has finished rebuilding...

STUdog · 1st February 2010, 6:01 PM

yes i know that, but trying to get it finished would be the issue

Dr1fty · 1st February 2010, 11:24 PM

Curious to know what block/cluster sizes you are using.

I've tried many different ones, but for the files I store, I found a 1024/64 to be overall best. (Storing HD/SD and ISOS)

maddhatter · 1st February 2010, 11:28 PM

Sure, it takes a long time to rebuild - but how long does it take to restore a couple of terabytes of data?

Dr1fty · 2nd February 2010, 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maddhatter

Sure, it takes a long time to rebuild - but how long does it take to restore a couple of terabytes of data?

Not as long as you think. Considering we're all running multi port PCI-E network cards, we all get over 100MB/s easily both ways.

It is faster to re-transfer than rebuild.

(We being the people he would get his data back from)

terrastrife · 2nd February 2010, 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr1fty

Not as long as you think. Considering we're all running multi port PCI-E network cards, we all get over 100MB/s easily both ways.

It is faster to re-transfer than rebuild.

(We being the people he would get his data back from)

yeah, its faster to restore from backup over teh network than it is from a single internal fixed disk

triggerhippie · 2nd February 2010, 12:41 AM

You sir have massive kahunas! You can only watch so many pr0n movies simultaneously. Impressive!

1st February 2010, 10:14 AM	#1
STUdog Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,021	My wicked raid arrays, your thoughts? Heya Guys Will I managed to add a Dell/LSI Perc 5/i to my system, After a bit of messing around finall got it working First off the Perc 5 would not scan for drives, would just sit there blinking, then I messed around in the mobo Bios and enabled some GFX PCIE features and boom next reboot it all worked, I was even more surprised when after the perc 5 bios finished my Highpoint bios ran and completed, Also added a heatsink with fan to the Perc 5 as these are from Dell servers that have forced airflow, these cards run very very hot. I added 4x 1.5tb 7200rpm seagates to the perc 5, yes only 4 out of the 8 ports as I have no more room in the case, 21 hdds with water cooling and a gtx 295 in 1 case is not easy Here is a pic ive done up with a few benches Let me know what you think Had someone from another forum request a pic so thought id post it on here The sizes of the partitions mess with HD Tune and show a false reading Total space in the system is about 31tb Alos just before people starting thinking im crazy with raid 0, I have all my data backed up, important data backed up twice, If a drive dies it would be faster to get a new drive, create array again and copy the data off a mate, rather than using raid 5 and waiting 1 week for rebuild. I have also had 1 array going for 1 year straight so far. These raid cards are good and the only way to lose data is by a failed hdd, not be knocking a sata cable etc, which I have done many times. Cheers STudog __________________ Owner - GGF LAN Event Site - www.events.ggflan.com Main Site - www.ggflan.com Facebook - GGF LAN - http://www.facebook.com/ggf.lan.party Last edited by STUdog; 1st February 2010 at 10:34 AM.

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1st February 2010, 10:46 AM	#6
STUdog Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,021	Yea they are an amazing card for the price, I had a 2320 for a while, nice little card, Although one thing to remember they arent very good for raid 5 or 6, The 2xxx series lack a cpu and memory onboard, but these are great cards for raid0 If you are after raid 5 or 6 id go for a Dell perc 5/i, they can be found on ebay for around $200-$300 with 256mb ecc mem and bat backup, these are a great little card There is a large review/testing thread here on the perc5: http://www.overclock.net/raid-contro...card-tips.html Very handy info __________________ Owner - GGF LAN Event Site - www.events.ggflan.com Main Site - www.ggflan.com Facebook - GGF LAN - http://www.facebook.com/ggf.lan.party

1st February 2010, 3:28 PM	#7
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1st February 2010, 10:30 AM	#2
neotheo Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: ~ Posts: 268	I think your asking for trouble having 31TB as raid 0. Do you backup?

1st February 2010, 6:01 PM	#10
STUdog Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,021	yes i know that, but trying to get it finished would be the issue __________________ Owner - GGF LAN Event Site - www.events.ggflan.com Main Site - www.ggflan.com Facebook - GGF LAN - http://www.facebook.com/ggf.lan.party

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