Windows Phone 7 Series - Page 3

Oppressa · 16th February 2010, 9:51 PM

LOL it's about 6 months away from release!

M4g3X0r · 17th February 2010, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by nexx

Am I the only person who hates browsing music using cover art?

Sure, it looks nice if you have like 5 albums, and they're correctly tagged. But I currently have over 30 on my phone. Browsing by list is far easier.

Auto-tag ftw.

Matt_NZ · 17th February 2010, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by platinum

What do you guys actually use multi-tasking for? I'm a "power user" and now push is enabled, I haven't seen any use for it.

On the iPhone, my mail is checked in the background, sms's/calls (of course), facebook push notifies me whenever something happens, weather is updated live via push, MSN/instant messenger stays connected in the background and push notifies me whenever an event happens.

Obviously music plays in the background while doing other tasks / using apps too.

The iPhone does have limited multitasking abilities, but it's only there where Apple thinks it makes sense - it's not configurable to your own tastes, in true Apple style.

On my iPhone, If I'm playing a game and I get a text message, I have to close the game and then open the message app to read the text. If I want to go back to the game while I wait for a reply I then have to launch it again and go through all the start up routine again - rinse and repeat each time I get a new message. It'd be nice if you could send an app to the background while you deal with an alert and then quickly have the ability to switch back to the original app you were using.

Using the iPhone with the TomTom app can also be a bit of a PITA as well - if you get a phone call while you're using it the whole app is temporarily suspended to display the phone call stats. A phone with better management of multitasking would give control over how such events are handled rather than assuming as the iPhone does.

sanjay · 17th February 2010, 1:48 AM

thankfully there are plenty of devices supporting true multi tasking, so you dont have to make any unnecessary compromises.

one of the most cringeworthy reports ive read about windows phone 7 so far is that 'well, since ive gotten used to not having multi-tasking with my iphone, i dont see what the big deal is' (see one of the female reporters on engadget).

oh bloody hell, mobile devices have had native multitasking since the very early symbian series 60 and windows mobile days - to have to live without it in a device that is supposedly advanced like an iphone is a disgusting, vile joke.

Oppressa · 17th February 2010, 9:03 AM

Agree with sanjay.

I'm sure the chefs are chomping at the bit though to rip the new Win Mobile apart though

bl4ck32 · 17th February 2010, 9:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Oppressa

I'm sure the chefs are chomping at the bit though to rip the new Win Mobile apart though

Hopefully they take to it like a pitbull on a cat....

Oppressa · 17th February 2010, 11:38 AM

Haha man that wouldn't be pretty. Although...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2438/...2455e78114.jpg

power · 17th February 2010, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt_NZ

The iPhone does have limited multitasking abilities, but it's only there where Apple thinks it makes sense - it's not configurable to your own tastes, in true Apple style.

On my iPhone, If I'm playing a game and I get a text message, I have to close the game and then open the message app to read the text. If I want to go back to the game while I wait for a reply I then have to launch it again and go through all the start up routine again - rinse and repeat each time I get a new message. It'd be nice if you could send an app to the background while you deal with an alert and then quickly have the ability to switch back to the original app you were using.

Using the iPhone with the TomTom app can also be a bit of a PITA as well - if you get a phone call while you're using it the whole app is temporarily suspended to display the phone call stats. A phone with better management of multitasking would give control over how such events are handled rather than assuming as the iPhone does.

wow that sounds shit even my earlier WinMo's (WM5 and earlier) handled things better than that - I guess so many noobs are used to phones like Nokia's and just accept shit like this.

ohayes · 17th February 2010, 1:26 PM

Hoping the HD2 version leaks before launch, Microsoft usually have their mobile OS RTM build finished long before it hits market so it should be stable by July i'm hoping.

Anyways, I love the interface, think its taking mobile phones to a whole new level with the out of box integration it provides, but I am also suspicious about multitasking at this point, the conference I watched seemed to infer it would be able to multitask but we wont really know until further down the line.

sanjay · 17th February 2010, 1:31 PM

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Originally Posted by power

wow that sounds shit even my earlier WinMo's (WM5 and earlier) handled things better than that - I guess so many noobs are used to phones like Nokia's and just accept shit like this.

even early winCE builds handled multitasking better than the iphone - i.e. it handled it.

my nokia 3650 from 2003 could handle native multi-tasking - in 2003! playing a game of bounce - get a call - answer the call - go back into bounce afterwards. just simple stuff like that...we all take it for granted now (except iphone users).

platinum · 17th February 2010, 3:31 PM

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Originally Posted by sanjay

even early winCE builds handled multitasking better than the iphone - i.e. it handled it.

my nokia 3650 from 2003 could handle native multi-tasking - in 2003! playing a game of bounce - get a call - answer the call - go back into bounce afterwards. just simple stuff like that...we all take it for granted now (except iphone users).

I swear the people commenting on how no multitasking is the end of the world, have never even owned an iPhone?

I can be playing a game, using safari, facebook, whatever app is open, and answer a call, and it will go right back to whatever I was doing... give it a try if you don't believe me, but I'm guessing you don't own one...

Apps on iPhone almost always save their "state" so, it's more like you're pausing them, than quitting them. If I'm in the middle of a game, or whatever it is I'm doing (although I know *some* GPS apps are bad at this, that's a software problem) - and whenever I come back to it, it'll be exactly as I left it... and doesn't need to be left "on" wasting power in the background, or slowing down the phone.

I can only use one app open at a time due to the small screens on phones, now push is working great with most apps that need it, I'd RATHER my phone doesn't have rampant multitasking.

mshagg · 17th February 2010, 3:44 PM

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Originally Posted by platinum

Apps on iPhone almost always save their "state" so, it's more like you're pausing them, than quitting them. If I'm in the middle of a game, or whatever it is I'm doing (although I know *some* GPS apps are bad at this, that's a software problem) - and whenever I come back to it, it'll be exactly as I left it... and doesn't need to be left "on" wasting power in the background, or slowing down the phone.

So the lack of proper multitasking isnt actually a problem unless you need to properly multitask? i.e. actually have something running in the background, as opposed to being suspended in its current state.

Noted

Jokes aside, i can see why they would steer away from it. My first S60 symbian phone had multitasking, unbeknownst to me. After a few hours im wondering why the phone is rapidly becoming a sluggish turd - learning how to access the task manager revealed that every application on the phone was still open in the background lol.

bl4ck32 · 17th February 2010, 3:46 PM

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Originally Posted by platinum

wasting power in the background, or slowing down the phone.

rampant multitasking.

People are biased about it because they are used to multitasking on a pc and on WinMo devices in the past. Just the same as the bias you show by using those specific terms when speaking about it

chainbolt · 18th February 2010, 10:20 AM

Microsoft Will Charge Carriers for Windows Phone 7

Interesting. I thought they do this anyway already.

bakasan · 20th February 2010, 3:18 AM

Greatly disappointed with the multi-tasking. I've being using win CE devices since wm2003 and it's the one great thing about the device that I can have multiple things running at once in the background.

If I chose to run one app at a time to max battery life or speed things up or release more memory that is up to ME to decide. I can't imagine having to close tomtom completely to view a web page, answer and email etc or wait for any of them to load and get their data and wait on them before switching to the other..

To a lesser extent I also don't like the no backward app compatability. It just makes choosing a new OS much more easier and breaking away from MS if I can't run my old apps from 6. Means I have to wate for my favourite apps to be ported if they ever are, fork over more money etc. Brave move for them but it may backfire. If they maintained multitasking I might be able to overlook it but alas..

Pity I was looking forward to W7 Phone OS. Looks like a step back from what I'm used to. Unless they change the multitasking restriction it will be a deal breaker for me.. Plenty of new mobile OS's coming out.

If I want crippled restrictive devices I'd just buy the mac family of products. Glad I don't need to buy in the next year.

16th February 2010, 9:51 PM	#31
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17th February 2010, 1:48 AM	#34
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17th February 2010, 9:03 AM	#35
Oppressa Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Sydney Posts: 4,906	Agree with sanjay. I'm sure the chefs are chomping at the bit though to rip the new Win Mobile apart though __________________ Sydney On Sunday (café review site). 1971 Beetle Resto thread and progress gallery Main: Cooler Master Elite 342, i7 3930K, Corsair H80, Rampage IV GENE, Corsair 4x4Gb 2133Mhz DDR3 Dominator GT, 5870, OCZ Vertex 3 MAX IOPS 120Gb, 1Tb Western Digital Green, 2 x Pioneer DVR-212 HTPC: Silverstone SST-GD01S-MXR, i3 540, Scythe Big Shuriken, ASRock H55M-GE, 2 x 2Gb DDR3 1333, 7Tb of storage, Pioneer Bluray BDR-206

17th February 2010, 11:38 AM	#37
Oppressa Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Sydney Posts: 4,906	Haha man that wouldn't be pretty. Although... http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2438/...2455e78114.jpg __________________ Sydney On Sunday (café review site). 1971 Beetle Resto thread and progress gallery Main: Cooler Master Elite 342, i7 3930K, Corsair H80, Rampage IV GENE, Corsair 4x4Gb 2133Mhz DDR3 Dominator GT, 5870, OCZ Vertex 3 MAX IOPS 120Gb, 1Tb Western Digital Green, 2 x Pioneer DVR-212 HTPC: Silverstone SST-GD01S-MXR, i3 540, Scythe Big Shuriken, ASRock H55M-GE, 2 x 2Gb DDR3 1333, 7Tb of storage, Pioneer Bluray BDR-206

20th February 2010, 3:18 AM	#45
bakasan Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,186	Greatly disappointed with the multi-tasking. I've being using win CE devices since wm2003 and it's the one great thing about the device that I can have multiple things running at once in the background. If I chose to run one app at a time to max battery life or speed things up or release more memory that is up to ME to decide. I can't imagine having to close tomtom completely to view a web page, answer and email etc or wait for any of them to load and get their data and wait on them before switching to the other.. To a lesser extent I also don't like the no backward app compatability. It just makes choosing a new OS much more easier and breaking away from MS if I can't run my old apps from 6. Means I have to wate for my favourite apps to be ported if they ever are, fork over more money etc. Brave move for them but it may backfire. If they maintained multitasking I might be able to overlook it but alas.. Pity I was looking forward to W7 Phone OS. Looks like a step back from what I'm used to. Unless they change the multitasking restriction it will be a deal breaker for me.. Plenty of new mobile OS's coming out. If I want crippled restrictive devices I'd just buy the mac family of products. Glad I don't need to buy in the next year. Last edited by bakasan; 20th February 2010 at 5:26 AM.

17th February 2010, 1:26 PM	#39
ohayes Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 516	Hoping the HD2 version leaks before launch, Microsoft usually have their mobile OS RTM build finished long before it hits market so it should be stable by July i'm hoping. Anyways, I love the interface, think its taking mobile phones to a whole new level with the out of box integration it provides, but I am also suspicious about multitasking at this point, the conference I watched seemed to infer it would be able to multitask but we wont really know until further down the line.

18th February 2010, 10:20 AM	#44
chainbolt Little member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Tokyo Posts: 76,479	Microsoft Will Charge Carriers for Windows Phone 7 Interesting. I thought they do this anyway already.