Alternative to iPad

[Kris_Corsair]

Originally Posted by aokman

Well stop paying out the iPad and stick to offering alternatives. You walk over the line and don't expect people to bite.

Dude, seriously, my posts about the Ipad have all been from today, and why? cus people keep preaching about the good word of the Ipad, maybe Im getting sick of hearing about the one thing I dont want to hear about, I know what the Ipad offers, and I want to talk to people about alternatives.

[SingAlong]

Originally Posted by slobber

Sounds like someones is trying to justify buying (and still paying to use apps ) the joke that is apple ipad

+1

[chipped]

Originally Posted by Kris_Corsair

Yeh, apple has the 'sense' to think, lets create a piece of technology that lacks fundamental everyday userability, such as flash, and multitasking, which, oh wait netbooks have.

Netbooks cant multitask very well on their piddly atom processors, once you open a few tabs in your favourite internet browser, they're out for the count.

Upcoming iOS4 for iPad will bring multitasking.

Originally Posted by Kris_Corsair

oh yeah, did I mention that theres a keyboard, wait theres not you just have to struggle with an on-screen keypad.

Unless your retarded, you can get used to it in a few days.

Originally Posted by Kris_Corsair

Want some useful programs for your Ipad? Just log onto the internet and pay out the arse for them! Cus theres no way you can use programs you already own like microsoft word, no you gotta go buy it again - I mean you could try and transfer it over to the Ipad, but once again it lacks the most basic tools of a computer - a USB port, but thats ok, because with your nice, light weight easy portable, easy usable, overly priced outdated piece of technology, you can FILL ALL YOUR POCKETS WITH LARGE ADAPTORS - one for EVERY occasion.

Whats the point of having a light portable device if you dont get to carry kg's of addons for it incase you need one?

The camera connection kit is what most people need really, fantastic if you go on holidays. There are multiple apps that access online storage to access anything else you could ever need.

Pay out the ass? Who can't afford $0 - $10?

These things don't lack useability, last I checked, they are still selling out in the shops The form factor of the iPad is great, you can toss it around and not worry about the hard drive dying and sit on the couch or in bed comfortably. Even when your not using it, you can have act as a photo frame while it charges.

[SLATYE]

Originally Posted by chipped

Netbooks cant multitask very well on their piddly atom processors, once you open a few tabs in your favourite internet browser, they're out for the count.

Upcoming iOS4 for iPad will bring multitasking.

Atom is fine for multi-tasking, as long as none of the tasks are particularly complex. Remember running 5+ applications on a P3? That worked fine, and the Atom is much better than a P3 for that stuff.

Also, from what I've seen, Atom is roughly the same performance as the Cortex A8 (as used in the iPad) clock-for-clock. Therefore it is reasonable to assume that most netbooks (~1.6GHz Atom) offer higher performance than the iPad (1GHz Cortex A8). If netbooks are as bad as you claim for multitasking (even with fancy HyperThreading support), the iPad is going to be truly awful.

[chipped]

Originally Posted by SLATYE

Also, from what I've seen, Atom is roughly the same performance as the Cortex A8 (as used in the iPad) clock-for-clock. Therefore it is reasonable to assume that most netbooks (~1.6GHz Atom) offer higher performance than the iPad (1GHz Cortex A8). If netbooks are as bad as you claim for multitasking (even with fancy HyperThreading support), the iPad is going to be truly awful.

Your forgetting one important factor, an iPad runs an OS and apps that are designed for its hardware.

Try launching web browsers, photos, games etc on both and tell me whats snappier.

[dmandn]

Originally Posted by chipped

Your forgetting one important factor, an iPad runs an OS and apps that are designed for its hardware.

Try launching web browsers, photos, games etc on both and tell me whats snappier.

The netbook wins hands down!

You are forgetting an even more important factor, netbooks can have one (or more) of many os's. The ipad is limited to one half backed piece of s*$# the Apple have convinced many of its followers (and the non technical minded alike) that its the first, only and best thing ever created. Just like all of its previous products.

[dmandn]

Originally Posted by chipped

These things don't lack useability, last I checked, they are still selling out in the shops The form factor of the iPhone is great, you can toss it around and not worry about the hard drive dying and sit on the couch or in bed comfortably. Even when your not using it, you can have act as a photo frame while it charges.

Hmmm, its not that they don't lack usability! Its because so many children (even the old kids) have to have it to be in the "in" croud.

So you toss the iphone around then wait a month and/or dish out $$$ for apple to replace the screen?

Funny how this guy uses iphone to disprove the statements of those he debates on the topic of the ipad. Can't ONE product do everything you want? ......Wait a few months, enjoy some dualcore netbooks, or put a nice light os onto a current netbook.

[dmandn]

Originally Posted by chipped

Thats my point, the netbook runs a a desktop OS and its not meant to be a desktop replacement.

Also wrong, Windows 7 starter is not a desktop OS, neither are many of the linux os's available.

ONE MORE THING: For those of you that like going into pc stores and buls&*%ing to the poor buggers that work there about how great and much better and lacking of an alternative these ipads are please stop, its friggen irritating as all hell!

[chipped]

Originally Posted by dmandn

The netbook wins hands down!

I don't think so.

Originally Posted by dmandn

Funny how this guy uses iphone to disprove the statements of those he debates on the topic of the ipad. Can't ONE product do everything you want? ......Wait a few months, enjoy some dualcore netbooks, or put a nice light os onto a current netbook.

That was a typo, meant to say iPad. In a few months there will also be a new iPad out

Originally Posted by dmandn

Also wrong, Windows 7 starter is not a desktop OS, neither are many of the linux os's available.

A lot of netbooks still come with Windows XP standard. Like 2 out of 5 at JB Hi-Fi for example http://www.jbhifi.com.au/computers/netbook/

Windows 7 starter is crippled, it dosent even have Aero, to compensate for netbooks crappy hardware. Which is probably why the others come with Windows XP.

[rockofclay]

Originally Posted by chipped

I don't think so.



That was a typo, meant to say iPad. In a few months there will also be a new iPad out



A lot of netbooks still come with Windows XP standard. Like 2 out of 5 at JB Hi-Fi for example http://www.jbhifi.com.au/computers/netbook/

Windows 7 starter is crippled, it dosent even have Aero, to compensate for netbooks crappy hardware. Which is probably why the others come with Windows XP.

Jesus, I love it how you refuse to see the advantages of a netbook. You're comparing apples to oranges here. At first you said netbooks sucked because they couldn't do a number of things. The iPad couldn't do the things you listed. You've completely ignored that netbooks can do these things anyway.

You've no idea that the term "desktop replacement" is for a notebook that is so grunty it's supposed to be the only computer for an owner.

You refer to 'desktop OSes' when you're really only talking about x86 OSes. Remember, all of these operating systems have been built after UMPCs and laptops, so they were designed for these!

There are many good reasons to buy ARM based tablets, but there are also many to buy more powerful netbooks (remember, the hardware is far better).

[chipped]

Originally Posted by rockofclay

Jesus, I love it how you refuse to see the advantages of a netbook. You're comparing apples to oranges here. At first you said netbooks sucked because they couldn't do a number of things. The iPad couldn't do the things you listed. You've completely ignored that netbooks can do these things anyway.

I have said netbooks suck because they are slow, not because of what they can and can't do.

Originally Posted by rockofclay

You've no idea that the term "desktop replacement" is for a notebook that is so grunty it's supposed to be the only computer for an owner.

I am aware, my $4000 notebook assures you.

Originally Posted by rockofclay

You refer to 'desktop OSes' when you're really only talking about x86 OSes. Remember, all of these operating systems have been built after UMPCs and laptops, so they were designed for these!

Ok, so? x86 is just the architecture. The OS's were still designed to perform on a certain caliber of hardware. Which didnt include netbooks. Windows 7 starter is an exception, sort of, its really just Windows 7 cut down.

Originally Posted by rockofclay

There are many good reasons to buy ARM based tablets, but there are also many to buy more powerful netbooks (remember, the hardware is far better).

I agree, a netbook provides a good battery to price ratio in terms of notebook/netbook pricing.

[OPM881]

Came into this thread looking for an alternative cause I want a setup similair to the ipad to control my htpc along with some casual web browsing, but all I found was a bunch of little kids bitching. Less bitching, more alternatives please.

Do ANY alternatives have battery life close to that of the ipad yet?

[Oppressa]

There was a link on the homepage that had some alternatives. Here:

Here:
http://hothardware.com/Reviews/HotHa...-Guide/?page=3

The Aspire has 8 hours of use

8.5 hour laptop here:
http://hothardware.com/Reviews/HotHa...-Guide/?page=2

[aokman]

Originally Posted by OPM881

Came into this thread looking for an alternative cause I want a setup similair to the ipad to control my htpc along with some casual web browsing, but all I found was a bunch of little kids bitching. Less bitching, more alternatives please.

Do ANY alternatives have battery life close to that of the ipad yet?

There is nothing out there that had a similar battery life except a smart phone... I've seen supposed 8hr lifes but the iPad goes 10hrs plus under full load or 3-4 days normal usage

[OPM881]

Originally Posted by aokman

There is nothing out there that had a similar battery life except a smart phone... I've seen supposed 8hr lifes but the iPad goes 10hrs plus under full load or 3-4 days normal usage

Yea, thats what I was afraid of. Guess ill just put a little away each week on top of what im already saving and get it some time down the track