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Old 24th March 2010, 12:35 PM   #1726
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Except the TDP, except the pricing, except the number of cores, except the clock speeds, except the release date.
Hmm.
Nvidia even didn't know these facts until the last stages...

You got to give Charlie credit for pointing out the BS and talking clear cut.
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Old 24th March 2010, 12:35 PM   #1727
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Nvidia even didn't know these facts until the last stages...
True, but they at least have some control over those...
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Old 24th March 2010, 12:37 PM   #1728
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True, but they at least have some control over those...
Of course!

What Charlie said was that:

- Fermi will be a hot product
- Won't clock as high as Nvidia wanted
- Has yield issues
- Costs Nvidia a lot of money

And all of that is true.
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Old 24th March 2010, 12:41 PM   #1729
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It's like a new movie, if a movie came out without trailers and advertisement, would it gross $100, 000, 000 on opening weekend? No. You advertise it, show it off, push it everywhere you can.
Different companies prefer different strategies Apple (the most successful) obviously like the no information approach and it works well for them.

If i was an Nvidia exec i would go for the no info approach as well, the card is hot power hungry and expensive, you don't want people to know this and make up their mind before they see that its faster.
It's just that they haven't been able to pull this approach off.
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Um...okay. (Source: http://www.atomicmpc.com.au/Feature/...bly-guide.aspx)

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NVIDIA's GTX480 card has been spotted frequently across the internet, with pictures of the reference board shown, compared against the ATI HD5970, and even specifications posted; but today we're only going to show you how to pull one apart.

The GTX480's reference heatsink is unique compared to a huge array of more common designs; first and foremost due to its external radiator that vents heat directly off the surface of the card. While it still features a squirrel-cage intake fan at one end, and passes most of the air outside the rear of the chassis, this radiator hints at a heat load that is atypical of most high-end cards.
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Old 24th March 2010, 12:43 PM   #1731
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Regardless of what old Charlie says I still think and expect these new cards to be a pretty good upgrade over the current gen gtx 285 card,if the gtx 480 is around the same speed as the gtx 295 card plus you get dx11 aswell then I'll be happy,and the extra memory over the current gen,1536mb will be nice for games that need it.

I plan on running two gtx 480 cards in sli but I won't be buying any if they get released with a price of $800 to $900,just to expensive I'll just have to wait for them to get down to a more reasonable prices of around $600 to $700.
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Different companies prefer different strategies Apple (the most successful) obviously like the no information approach and it works well for them.

If i was an Nvidia exec i would go for the no info approach as well, the card is hot power hungry and expensive, you don't want people to know this and make up their mind before they see that its faster.
It's just that they haven't been able to pull this approach off.
It's a little out of character for Nvidia, which is which it smells fishy. The very competitive nature of the GPU industry lends itself to hype style marketing. When there is no hype you have to wonder why.
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Exactly. Nvidia is the one running to intel and yelling "CPUs are dead"
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Old 24th March 2010, 12:49 PM   #1734
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I like the heatsink design at least hahah.

Why are they still using those shit squirrel cage fans?
Why cant we have stock cards with a 90mm normal fan on them already?
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Unigine Heaven Benchmark 2.0
Updated version of Unigine Heaven DirectX 11 benchmark is now publicly available. Main changes are: added more content, improved engine, introduced "moderate" and "extreme" tessellation modes, added Linux version (32/64 bit).

http://unigine.com/download/
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so when do we expect to see these cards and for the price (what ive seen ~800 - 900) are they really worth getting over a gtx 285 or would i be better of getting another 285 for sli?
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Wow, complete disregard for the NDA, just wow...
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I hear that this version of Unigine Heaven is, er, "nVidia optimised"... (http://www.overclock.net/software-ne...ml#post8840547)
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I hear that this version of Unigine Heaven is, er, "nVidia optimised"... (http://www.overclock.net/software-ne...ml#post8840547)
I think you hear wrong
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As for literally buying hundreds of lower end cards, this is where "price-gouging" will come from. Buy 1 x 470, you have to probably buy 50 x GT220's which you might not sell.

This will effect end-user pricing significantly.
why would they do this? do they have low end card over flow or something?

a real bad move & will increase the prices of gtx470/480 big time. who is going to bother buying one?
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