AMD Phenom II X6 Overclocking and Ranking Thread - Page 75

Jon187 · 27th July 2012, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RAtSAcK

Got a 1090T on the way. If I just set it to 4GHz@1.4V, what are the chances of having it stable? Also, anyone had a 9X5BE? How would you compare it?

The 965BE is a very good CPU. Not a huge difference having the extra 2 cores as not many programs fully utalize them.

Lukezen27 · 28th July 2012, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by RAtSAcK

Got a 1090T on the way. If I just set it to 4GHz@1.4V, what are the chances of having it stable? Also, anyone had a 9X5BE? How would you compare it?

Chances are quite good with the Phenom X6 1090T 3.2 GHz (Black Edition) Though it also depends on your motherboard choice for OC stability..!

Mine needs 1.47V to be completely Prime95 stable..
Not really a problem IMO as this voltage is still within AMD’s own operating voltage range of 1.12V/1.47V

MUTMAN · 28th July 2012, 8:17 AM

is there a program that logs 'p-states' on each core? (and load too)
would love to see just what this cpu gets upto when left to its own devices

Frontl1ne · 28th July 2012, 1:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RAtSAcK

Got a 1090T on the way. If I just set it to 4GHz@1.4V, what are the chances of having it stable? Also, anyone had a 9X5BE? How would you compare it?

IMO, it's not a worthwhile upgrade from the Phenom II X4s unless you need the extra two cores for heavily threaded workloads. They'll clock probably about 200mhz higher than the Phenom II X4s at the same voltage, and from what I've seen, it looks like ~1.47v is required for 4GHz for the average thuban.

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Originally Posted by MUTMAN

is there a program that logs 'p-states' on each core? (and load too)
would love to see just what this cpu gets upto when left to its own devices

The closest program I can think of is PhenomMSRTweaker which lets you see what state the processor is currently in but does not log any data. It also lets you set custom P-states and their threshold trigger.

MUTMAN · 28th July 2012, 3:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Frontl1ne

The closest program I can think of is PhenomMSRTweaker which lets you see what state the processor is currently in but does not log any data. It also lets you set custom P-states and their threshold trigger.

yep thanks, already use that one. but alas no logging

dragon7 · 28th July 2012, 5:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MUTMAN

yep thanks, already use that one. but alas no logging

try speedfan and check on the Vcore graph, then you can tell which P state it has been thru, no work load graph but you can check that in Windows task manager.

MUTMAN · 28th July 2012, 6:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dragon7

try speedfan and check on the Vcore graph, then you can tell which P state it has been thru, no work load graph but you can check that in Windows task manager.

great thinking dragon7

thanks for that

dirtyd · 28th July 2012, 7:01 PM

From memory when I used to run EVEREST it had a lot of different logging options, I reckon frequency would be in there.

MUTMAN · 29th July 2012, 9:46 AM

thanks dirtyd. i'll look in to both of these proggies this week
i just grabbed a new vid card and am looking for per core logging, just wanted to see what turbo was getting upto in new games (bf3) more than a desire to be ocd about each core

also got to say lukezen27 is spot on about mobo being a limiting factor, i have a gigabyte 790 board hit 4ghz easy, but a asus 970 board just wont do 4ghz with any volts
same cpu, same ram

Squatting_Tiger · 1st August 2012, 4:12 PM

Currently have a PII B55 BE @ 3.2Ghz as per sig. My Corsair H60 has arrived and was looking at a minor CPU upgrade to clock the buggery out off. Is something like the 1090T BE worthwhile. I recall clocking this B55 sometime ago when I first got it on air and only got about 3.8Ghz. A bit dodgy as the temps don't show up accurately enough with unlocked cores.

Phido · 1st August 2012, 4:40 PM

Depends what you use it for.

X6 is great at number crunching, rendering, encoding. You get a good 50% increase in those areas over a 955, (over 100% for me going from a 720be). Which was mind blowing, because I do that stuff all the time. Or chuck a render or encode and play a game while that's happening.

However if your just gaming, or officing, or photoshopping, the hexacore isn't usually going to do much/anything for you. I got about 400Mhz more than my ancient 720BE. I can hit 4.0Ghz but I was having issues with stability, where as my 720 struggled to hit 3.6Ghz. Double the cores made it worth it.

Most software struggles to use 4 cores, 6 cores are only utilised by well written 3D renders (i use 3dsMax), some encoders, and specific crunching software (excel often struggles to use 4 cores).

My mobo is dead ATM, so I have to use my crappy I5 650 desktop and I5 laptop, which are significantly slower than my old X6 boxen. Both struggle with the work I do (slower than my 720BE).

Squatting_Tiger · 13th August 2012, 12:07 PM

Are all 1090T's BE's? Looking at buying a 1090T but seller says it isn't a BE. Read somewhere all 1090T's are BE's

Dave2972 · 13th August 2012, 3:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Squatting_Tiger

Are all 1090T's BE's? Looking at buying a 1090T but seller says it isn't a BE. Read somewhere all 1090T's are BE's

From memory, if you have a number on the CPU that starts like this "HDT90ZFBGR...", the "Z" after the model number (90 for a 1090T) indicates unlocked while a "T" indicates locked.

MUTMAN · 13th August 2012, 5:36 PM

what you read may have been older info from before 1100 were released.
from what i gathered, when the 1090 was the top chip it was unlocked, when the 1100 was released they were all unlocked and the 1090 became regular chips

Phido · 13th August 2012, 8:26 PM

I believe all 1090t are BE.

While the 1100t came out later and was a BE it was just a 100Mhz step in price was minimal.

I bought my 1090T while it was EOL and 1100T were out for ages and it was a BE.

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13th August 2012, 12:07 PM	#1122
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28th July 2012, 8:17 AM	#1113
MUTMAN Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: brisvegas Posts: 2,054	is there a program that logs 'p-states' on each core? (and load too) would love to see just what this cpu gets upto when left to its own devices

29th July 2012, 9:46 AM	#1119
MUTMAN Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: brisvegas Posts: 2,054	thanks dirtyd. i'll look in to both of these proggies this week i just grabbed a new vid card and am looking for per core logging, just wanted to see what turbo was getting upto in new games (bf3) more than a desire to be ocd about each core also got to say lukezen27 is spot on about mobo being a limiting factor, i have a gigabyte 790 board hit 4ghz easy, but a asus 970 board just wont do 4ghz with any volts same cpu, same ram

13th August 2012, 5:36 PM	#1124
MUTMAN Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: brisvegas Posts: 2,054	what you read may have been older info from before 1100 were released. from what i gathered, when the 1090 was the top chip it was unlocked, when the 1100 was released they were all unlocked and the 1090 became regular chips