New HDD not showing up?

Orphan · 3rd June 2010, 3:34 PM

Hey guys,

Well as I plan to build an new comp at the end of the year (been out of the game for a couple years now) I have only been buying stuff I can carry over such as storage. I got myself a Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB and after installing it windows poped up with a new hardware message then said it was installed but the drive is not showing up. The manual says something about possibly SATA proticol issues, I have no idea what my drivers etc are but the motherboard is a Asus A8N-SLI Premium so definitely going back a number of years.

Apparently Samsung offer software on their website that slows the drive down to 1.5Gb/s but I didn't find anything on their website. Any ideas?

Thanks.

Di$TRe$$ · 3rd June 2010, 5:44 PM

)ust stating obvious since you did not mention - Format it in Disk management

HUMMER · 3rd June 2010, 5:49 PM

control panel > performance and maintenance > administrative tools > computer management > disk management

then select the disk that you want to format. its usually one that is not allocated. that is if its a new drive.

Orphan · 3rd June 2010, 6:03 PM

Thanks guys,

I knew it would have to be formatted but didn't know about going into disk management, from memory all my previous hdd's showed up and I just formatted them that way. Its formatting now so should be fine.

Quelch · 7th August 2010, 8:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HUMMER

control panel > performance and maintenance > administrative tools > computer management > disk management

then select the disk that you want to format. its usually one that is not allocated. that is if its a new drive.

Thanks from me too !

Just installed a new WD Green 1T, installed successfully but didn't show up in 'Computer'

Found your post

It's formatting now

Slow isn't it ?

Smokin Whale · 7th August 2010, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quelch

Thanks from me too !

Just installed a new WD Green 1T, installed successfully but didn't show up in 'Computer'

Found your post

It's formatting now

Slow isn't it ?

/facepalm

You did a full format of a 1tb drive? Oh dear.

Quick format does exactly the same, and it's pretty much instant. Be prepared to wait around for hours

Quelch · 10th August 2010, 9:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smokin Whale

/facepalm

You did a full format of a 1tb drive? Oh dear.

Quick format does exactly the same, and it's pretty much instant. Be prepared to wait around for hours

All done now !

Next time I'll know to do the quick format

I should have checked first

HUMMER · 10th August 2010, 9:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quelch

All done now !

Next time I'll know to do the quick format

I should have checked first

from microsoft's web site.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/302686

When you choose to run a regular format on a volume, files are removed from the volume that you are formatting and the hard disk is scanned for bad sectors. The scan for bad sectors is responsible for the majority of the time that it takes to format a volume.

If you choose the Quick format option, format removes files from the partition, but does not scan the disk for bad sectors. Only use this option if your hard disk has been previously formatted and you are sure that your hard disk is not damaged.

If you installed Windows XP on a partition that was formatted by using the Quick format option, you can also check your disk by using the chkdsk /r command after the installation of Windows XP is completed.

terrastrife · 10th August 2010, 12:55 PM

when writing to disks, they automatically remap for bad sectors.

full format is never required.

peter10001 · 10th August 2010, 5:29 PM

Full format is needed, if it fails then you can return it to the shop, and get quickly a new one.
You can wait 6 months and then let it fail, then the shop will send it to repair, so you lose a harddisk and have to wait till it's back.

New disk, do full format, then a full surface scan. A lot of disks have bad sectors wenn they come out of the store.
I have a lot of haddisks, all with 1 or more bad sectors i returned(local shop i buy so i can return quickly), got directly a new one, and no harddisk did fail anymore in the firt few years. Check internet harddisk fail wen they are old(normal) and wen the are new(the first year), i think this is because bad harddisk given out to users, and most users do not check, and if users do not often use the pc it will never break.
And keep your harddisk cool, under 50 degrees temp.

Dave2972 · 10th August 2010, 11:32 PM

I all ways do a full format of a brand new disk and then a scan.

I come from the olden days when hard-disks had either/and a sticker on them with a list bad sectors or a bit of paper listing the bad sectors so you could enter them when partitioning and formatting up the HD. The full format used to be a verification that you did not miss a bad sector when entering them in.

Now days, the full format before you use it helps the HD do its own bad sector remapping before you actually put data it and gets the known ones out of the way. This obviously depends on the OS and the formatting program.

rowan194 · 12th August 2010, 10:01 AM

I also do a full format or at the very least an extended SMART scan on new disks. I used to keep cold RAID spares in their factory packaging until needed but I now open them and do some basic testing... you don't want to find out that a factory sealed drive is faulty when you most need it.

3rd June 2010, 3:34 PM	#1
Orphan Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,770	New HDD not showing up? Hey guys, Well as I plan to build an new comp at the end of the year (been out of the game for a couple years now) I have only been buying stuff I can carry over such as storage. I got myself a Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB and after installing it windows poped up with a new hardware message then said it was installed but the drive is not showing up. The manual says something about possibly SATA proticol issues, I have no idea what my drivers etc are but the motherboard is a Asus A8N-SLI Premium so definitely going back a number of years. Apparently Samsung offer software on their website that slows the drive down to 1.5Gb/s but I didn't find anything on their website. Any ideas? Thanks. Last edited by Orphan; 3rd June 2010 at 3:36 PM.

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3rd June 2010, 5:44 PM	#2
Di$TRe$$ Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Sydney Posts: 438	)ust stating obvious since you did not mention - Format it in Disk management

3rd June 2010, 6:03 PM	#4
Orphan Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,770	Thanks guys, I knew it would have to be formatted but didn't know about going into disk management, from memory all my previous hdd's showed up and I just formatted them that way. Its formatting now so should be fine.

10th August 2010, 5:29 PM	#10
peter10001 Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Netherlands Posts: 82	Full format is needed, if it fails then you can return it to the shop, and get quickly a new one. You can wait 6 months and then let it fail, then the shop will send it to repair, so you lose a harddisk and have to wait till it's back. New disk, do full format, then a full surface scan. A lot of disks have bad sectors wenn they come out of the store. I have a lot of haddisks, all with 1 or more bad sectors i returned(local shop i buy so i can return quickly), got directly a new one, and no harddisk did fail anymore in the firt few years. Check internet harddisk fail wen they are old(normal) and wen the are new(the first year), i think this is because bad harddisk given out to users, and most users do not check, and if users do not often use the pc it will never break. And keep your harddisk cool, under 50 degrees temp.

12th August 2010, 10:01 AM	#12
rowan194 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,872	I also do a full format or at the very least an extended SMART scan on new disks. I used to keep cold RAID spares in their factory packaging until needed but I now open them and do some basic testing... you don't want to find out that a factory sealed drive is faulty when you most need it.