What have you done to your PC today?

[Hood]

Originally Posted by pieceofchance

close to finishing the current incarnation of my own PC, took a load of pics this time so will chuck up a build log when the MIPS block materializes. Also, the BitFenix Spectre Pro fans are looking pretty shit quality so far - have had 2 out of 6 die on me inside a week...

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How much OC are you getting out of those fans???

[WishBone17]

Originally Posted by pieceofchance

and isn't it terrible that a hundred dollar 1090T does 5 GHz at about 9 degrees above ambient

and probably has the same performance of a 2005 celeron

[pieceofchance]

Originally Posted by Hood

How much OC are you getting out of those fans???

sitting on 4.9, but still have loads of headroom (haven't had a proper play yet)

Originally Posted by WishBone17

and probably has the same performance of a 2005 celeron

I suppose I did start the AMD/Intel thing...

[WishBone17]

Originally Posted by pieceofchance

I suppose I did start the AMD/Intel thing...

jokes bud, i rate the AMD cpu's for there value vs performance, just wished they gave Intel a bit more competiton so we dont get arse raped for pricing. Same with AMD GPU vs Nvidia, we dont need one company dictating

[iphex]

Originally Posted by WishBone17

and probably has the same performance of a 2005 celeron

Not really, the 1055/90/1100 performed really well, its still the top dog for AMD's lineup, easily smokes a 2500k/3550k.

Originally Posted by WishBone17

jokes bud, i rate the AMD cpu's for there value vs performance, just wished they gave Intel a bit more competiton so we dont get arse raped for pricing. Same with AMD GPU vs Nvidia, we dont need one company dictating

Should of brought a 2011 setup, then you could clock further then that lolvybridge setup.

[pieceofchance]

Originally Posted by WishBone17

jokes bud, i rate the AMD cpu's for there value vs performance, just wished they gave Intel a bit more competiton so we dont get arse raped for pricing. Same with AMD GPU vs Nvidia, we dont need one company dictating

I used to be an Intel fanboy myself (and before that, Mac), but for me the pricepoint seems more about perceived value than actual value, much like imported vs domestic anything. I know several years ago there was a valid reason to want a P4 over what AMD had available (and even then, only for specific tasks), but today it seems largely hypothetical numbers that very few applications outside of benching will ever even utilize. I recommend and build entirely AMD/ATI now. Plus, German engineering - can't go wrong

[WishBone17]

Originally Posted by pieceofchance

I used to be an Intel fanboy myself (and before that, Mac), but for me the pricepoint seems more about perceived value than actual value, much like imported vs domestic anything. I know several years ago there was a valid reason to want a P4 over what AMD had available (and even then, only for specific tasks), but today it seems largely hypothetical numbers that very few applications outside of benching will ever even utilize. I recommend and build entirely AMD/ATI now. Plus, German engineering - can't go wrong

not sure about AMD as I've always gone on actual performance and features and it still shows AMD is lacking compared to intel, take Bulldozer for example, absolute fail and half.

as for ATI/AMD, i was a massive fan during the days of there earlier 3000/4000 & 5000 series, I had the 4890 and the 5870 and couldnt fault them, they were great cards and performed well. But after my experience with the 6970 and its wowful drivers, NEVER AGAIN. got stung hard, Nvidia are just quality when it comes to software/drivers.

[pieceofchance]

Originally Posted by WishBone17

not sure about AMD as I've always gone on actual performance and features and it still shows AMD is lacking compared to intel, take Bulldozer for example, absolute fail and half.

as for ATI/AMD, i was a massive fan during the days of there earlier 3000/4000 & 5000 series, I had the 4890 and the 5870 and couldnt fault them, they were great cards and performed well. But after my experience with the 6970 and its wowful drivers, NEVER AGAIN. got stung hard, Nvidia are just quality when it comes to software/drivers.

That also comes down to specific manufacturers also, XFX are awesome for drivers and support (they put out a new set of drivers for the gtx295 like a month ago, now that is golden imo). Wouldn't touch Bulldozer if you paid me. Also, driver issues generally only seem to be problematic when crossing platform anyway (in my experience, of course, of say, using Intel with an ATI card, or AMD with Nvidia). I haven't had driver issues for a few years now.

[Dumpty]

Originally Posted by WishBone17

...But after my experience with the 6970 and its wowful drivers, NEVER AGAIN. got stung hard ...

agreed
I am still rocking them its pain, i have to live with two of them. Initially it was just fan noise, but i got watercooling, then it got to a point where games just wouldn't start up (drivers 11.2 and some other ones). You actually dont know which drivers are the ones to use.

[pieceofchance]

Originally Posted by Dumpty

agreed
I am still rocking them its pain, i have to live with two of them. Initially it was just fan noise, but i got watercooling, then it got to a point where games just wouldn't start up (drivers 11.2 and some other ones). You actually dont know which drivers are the ones to use.

ahhh... this reminds me of something Creekin posted a while back, the analogy being basically that you wouldn't let a Mechanic you didn't know, sight-unseen install some new thing into your car that you have no idea about and then hit the big new red button while highway driving would you? The parable holds for updates and drivers - do a wee bit of research before hitting agree and install on anything. It takes a bit of time wading through the raft of mis- dis- and shit-info, but saves such headaches in the end.

[WishBone17]

Originally Posted by pieceofchance

ahhh... this reminds me of something Creekin posted a while back, the analogy being basically that you wouldn't let a Mechanic you didn't know, sight-unseen install some new thing into your car that you have no idea about and then hit the big new red button while highway driving would you? The parable holds for updates and drivers - do a wee bit of research before hitting agree and install on anything. It takes a bit of time wading through the raft of mis- dis- and shit-info, but saves such headaches in the end.

Bloody Creekin, who is this man? But in all fareness, when they release a driver saying "x game" will now have proper crossfire support or "x game" gains 10 percent performance, then to find out that once these new drivers are installed other shit goes wrong, like Vsync in Eyefinity isnt working, well thats pretty disheartening.

I think once AMD aquired ATI, they must of hired some really lazy software developers cause there catalyst drivers just went down hill.. All in all the product is great, especielly the 7000s series, it really performs up there with Nvidia but its lacking software support lets it down hard.

[Dumpty]

Originally Posted by pieceofchance

ahhh... this reminds me of something Creekin posted a while back, the analogy being basically that you wouldn't let a Mechanic you didn't know, sight-unseen install some new thing into your car that you have no idea about and then hit the big new red button while highway driving would you? The parable holds for updates and drivers - do a wee bit of research before hitting agree and install on anything. It takes a bit of time wading through the raft of mis- dis- and shit-info, but saves such headaches in the end.

Yeah I agree, i should probably do some research before just clicking install. But i paid like around 800 AUD all up, i just expect some decent driver support. Oh well, they do say: expect the unexpected. Still i have no expectations from any company now, its either a good product or bad product.

[pieceofchance]

Originally Posted by Dumpty

i have no expectations from any company now, its either a good product or bad product.

quoting for truth

[Hood]

some companies can make good products and shithouse products at the same time. HP case in point.

[WishBone17]

Originally Posted by Hood

some companies can make good products and shithouse products at the same time. HP case in point.

thermaltake? great PSU, everything else. shit