WoW Cataclysm Megathread - 4.3 out, I AM FROM THE FUTURE

Kaji · 23rd November 2010, 10:09 PM

Regular Updates When New Shit Comes Out And Totally Breaks Everything

4.1 Out! - Don't try and sell your account here, you'll get banned. There's plenty of other places on the Intrawebz that will do it. Use Google, and pretty much assume that you're going to get fucked in the pooper. Seriously, it's a dodgy world out there.

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(original OP from here on, alas was censored heavily. Apparently it's ok to swear a little, but not a lot, 5 fucks are ok compared to 200 fucks, think of the children)
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The world has exploded! We've hit 5000 posts! It's patch night! Beta is officially closed! What better reason to start a new thread!!

Can't be bothered finding out what's in 4.0.3a? Here's a quick list!!

What is in 4.0.3a:

* Portals in Dalaran/Shattrath Removed
* Class trainers in Dalaran where portals once were
* New race-class combinations (excluding worgen/goblin)
* New Gnome/Troll starting areas
* Changes to existing zones
* New cata load screens
* New cata intro cinematic
* New cata login screen
* New music
* City Quartermasters, with rep tabards
* Bug fixes
* Class balancing
* Druids, paladins, priests, and shaman will have their talent trees reset
* Experience required to gain levels 71 through 80 is being reduced by 20%
* New tamable hunter pets (Monkey, fox, dog, and beetle, as well as new skins for existing pet classes.)

What is not in (this stuff comes in on Dec.8, 7pm AEST (12am PST) - when the final data is pushed to servers)

* Creating worgen/goblin characters
* Worgen/Goblin start zones
* Archeology
* Professions past 450 (Illustrious Grand Master)
* Guild leveling
* Guild achievements
* Eastern Kingdoms/Kalimdor flight
* New Zones (80+)

We now return you to the awesome, awesome OP.

World of Warcraft: Cataclysm
Discussion/bitching/I'm quitting thread/MY IMMERSION

BUUUURRRNNNN

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INTRODUCTION
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Welcome to the WoW general discussion thread, where we bitch and moan about every god damn thing, even though we've been playing this game for 6 fucking years!

For a thread history, please refer to...

1st thread - Nov 2k4 to Feb 2k6 - Includes release drama, Azuregos / Kazzak, introduction of the Honour System, Battlegrounds, Blackwing Lair, Zul'Gurub, 4 World Dragons, and Ahn'Qiraj 20/40 causes massive tears!
2nd thread - Feb 2k6 to Feb 2k7 - Includes Tier 0.5, Old Naxxramas, and the release drama of the first expansion, The Burning Crusade (TBC)!!
3rd thread - Feb 2k7 to Oct 2k7 - More TBC drama, then the release of Black Temple and we finally get to see Illidan!
4th thread - Oct 2k7 to April 2k8 - Voice Chat is released! (lol) and Zul'Aman Bear Adventures!
5th thread - April 2k8 to Nov 2k8 - Sunwell Plateau comes out and utterly destroys us all! Then patch 3.0 comes along and nerfs everything to shit for the preparation of...
6th thread - Nov 2k8 to Nov 2k9 - Wrath of the Lich King! All the release drama and tears, all the way up to the Argent Tournament and pre 3.3!!
7th thread - Nov 2k9 to Dec 2k10 - Patch 3.3! We finally find out what happens to the Lich King, and then we cry about what's happening in the latest expansion, Cataclysm!

If you're interested in other WoW topics here...

Cataclysm Beta discussion thread - Our topic on the 3rd expansion pack while it was in alpha/beta, due out sometime in 2010. I'm guessing somewhere between June and Septemter, but there's no release date. (Update: dates wrong again, confirmed now for Dec 7!)
WoW Contact Thread - find out where your fellow crybabies are and cry in-game together!!

First reply in the first WoW thread: "I dont understand, you spose to buy WOW, then PAY monthly to play it? wtf is that sounds like a rip-off, more ways for them to make a quick dollar." Oh my, how things have changed.

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New expansion = New thread!

For the new people who are just starting WoW

Yes, it costs money to play. If you can handle that, then these are the sites you need to know;

www.worldofwarcraft.com - DUH. This is where your money goes.
forums.worldofwarcraft.com - The worst place on the internet. Seriously, you will drown in the tears. Unfortunately, Blizzard releases any breaking news here first, along with server status updates. (Disclaimer: The UI forum is actually quite awesome)
www.wowhead.com - Greatest WoW site ever. If you can't get your quest/item/where-do-I-go question solved here, you're either not looking hard enough, or no-one knows! (unlikely, these neckbearded nerds are fucking slobbering at the idea of telling you how to play)
www.wowpedia.org - Have a question about the game itself? Lore? History? Mechanics? It's all here. Ignore any lore or story that the WoW comics tell, they suck elephant semen. Offshoot of WoWWiki, which was no.1 for years, then was utterly destroyed by Wikia's stupid policies.
www.mmo-champion.com - WoW news, delivered daily! Focuses more on high-end content, but hey, what else is there?! Run by a French guy, but nothing's perfect. Nowadays, it's pretty much the king-shit of WoW sites, and for good reason.
www.worldofraids.com - Another WoW news site, but not as popular as MMO-Champ. Both owned by the same company now.
www.curse.com - Fucking horrible sell-outs, but it's the no.1 UI site out there. Combined with the UI forums at the official site, you'll get all your modding needs.

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STORYLINE, LORELOL
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I have literally been high on meth for the last 2 years. What is going on man

Ok, a (very) quick lore WotLK recap.

After we killed Illidan, Vashj and Kael (twice) in TBC, and stopped Kil'jaeden's return via the Sunwell, The Lich King decided that now was the best time to make use of his new body (Arthas) and take over the world. The basic plot progression was;

* Scourge Invasion of capital cities. Plague runs rampant, turning players into zombies. Leaders get pissed.
* A large faction of Death Knights break free (including The Ashbringer's son) from the Lich King's control, rejoin their old factions. Tirion Fordring cleanses the Ashbringer (the sword), and vows to make tender love to Arthas.
* Naxxramas returns to Northrend, Kel'Thuzad and his minions return to...er...death? unlife? whatever.
* Horde and Alliance actually ally together to take on Lich King at the Wrathgate. Turns out very bad - Highlord Bolvar gets taken prisoner by the Scourge, Saurfang Jr. is undead and a slave to the Lich King. Both sides get rather touchy.
* Naxxramas is destroyed, again.
* Malygos, Aspect of Magic, decides that mortals have fucked up the world long enough. He wages a war against magic users (called the Nexus War), and although well-intentioned, almost blows up the fucking world. In the end, the Kirin Tor with the help of the Red Dragonflight, kill the lord of all magic, leaving quite the job vacancy.
* The Obsidian Sanctum is opened. A personal breeding ground for the Black Dragonflight, we see that Sartharion (and some friends) is watching over some weird-ass dragon eggs which are from the Twilight Dragonflight, weird experimental babies. The heroes, as usual, slaughter the babies, but the Twilight Dragonflight is far from finished...
* Ulduar, a titan facility, is unlocked in the Storm Peaks. We find out that it's a prison, holding a Old God called Yogg-Saron. He's taken over the joint, and it's up to us to clear house. We defeat him, and all is well!....until we realise that there are more Old Gods out there.
* Fordring, after seeing the betrayal and massacre at Wrathgate, watches some anime and decides to run a tournament to promote good will between the Horde and Alliance, and get them to focus on the real bad guy. Lich King tries to spoil it by unleashing Anub'arak on us, fails miserably ala Dr. Claw.
* We find out the truth about the merging (Arthas suppresses his humanity and the original Lich King, Nerzhul). We then raid his pale ass, removing Arthas as Lich King. Arthas dies, and Bolvar, in an effort to prevent the now-leaderless undead from running wild, takes up the crown and becomes the new Lich King. Will no doubt be corrupted, just in time for another raid.
* Now that the Malygos is dead, Yogg Saron is defeated and Scourge is contained by Bolvar, the Black Dragonflight decide it's a good time to finally get in on the Red Dragonflight's shit, and invade the Ruby Sanctum. However, even with the help of their Twilight Dragon, they fail. Of course, it's all part of Deathwing's plan to fuck with the world, which leads to his glorious return.

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NEW STUFF
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Ok so Deathwing's back and he blew up the world, what's new

Level cap increased to 85. New race/class combos available (Tauren Priests, Human Hunters, etc
Old World zones (Kalimdor and Old Kingdom) changed and updated (see below for more details)
2 New races: Goblins for Horde, Worgen for the Alliance
Talent trees complete overhaul (currently in-game as of 4.0.1)
New secondary profession: Archaeology. Profession cap lifted to 525.
Reforging (currently in-game)
New bonuses for Guilds (Guild Achieves, reputations, etc)
Much, much more

Old World revamp?

Vanilla (1-60) questing sucks ass. With Deathwing's return, the Old World gets completely fucked up. Lava, floods, earthquakes, the whole shebang. This gave Blizz the chance to redesign the entire quest flow of 1-60 to better emulate that of the two expansion packs. By all accounts, it is much, MUCH better. Also, the environmental changes are awesome - Barrens is split in two by a chasm of lava, for example.

Don't worry, this revamp includes new content for max-level players as well;

Deepholm - The Elemental Plane of Earth, and the place where Deathwing has been hiding out. The new Hub Zone of the expansion, this is where you'll find portals to other new zones. I don't think there will be a new Shattrath/Dalaran, since we're in the Old World anyway. Expect to hang out in IF/Org a lot more.

Uldum - yes, that big door in Tanaris has finally opened - and it actually leads to a whole new Zone! Apperantly, the sea behind Tanaris was just an illusion, or something. Who cares, it's more Titan shit, and Brann Bronzebeard is back, ready to h4x some shit. Home to a new race of cat things called the Tolvir, it'll have at least two dungeons, and probably another raid later on, similar to Ulduar. As expected from anything surrounded by sand, it's got an Egyptian theme, and I'm hoping for some Stargate references. SEVENTH CHEVRON, LOCKED!! Man, I can see a wormhole boss already.

Mt. Hyjal - no, not lvl 70 raid instance in Caverns of Time, the real one! Currently, Hyjal is off-limits, with anyone trying to get in being kicked out right away. Previously, you could get in via Winterspring, and see some pretty cool things, like Archimonde's skeleton and the World Tree, and the entrance to Illidan's old prison (supposedly). Now that the Cataclysm has happened, it's a tad different. That old flame of ours, Ragnaros, has sneaked in the back door and used Deathwing's re-entry into Azeroth as a way to get back into our world. Rag is rather pissed about being banished oh-so-long ago (TOO SOON), and now has the World Tree under siege. This new Hyjal is a Zone, so expect questing!

Sunken City of Vash'jir - oooh, there's a name. Yes, its a Zone that that bitch in SSC, Lady Vashj used to live in. The first true underwater Zone, we can fight on the ocean floor and use swimming mounts!! Also, it has a gateway to the Abyssal Maw, the Elemental Plane of Water, so expect a raid boss there one day!

Twilight Highlands - Grim Batol (in the Wetlands, has lots of Red Dragons), has been *finally* cracked open by the Cataclysm. The Twilight Hammer cult have moved in on the Wetlands and are busy fucking things up. The Horde and Alliance will have new towns here, so expect some questing alongside the Red Dragonflight.

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RAIDS
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Blizzard have come to their senses and realised that WotLK's raid content has been lacking (read: sucks), and have said that Cataclysm will ship with the most raid content to date. For reference, TBC shipped with Gruul/Magtheridon/SSC/TK/Kara - yes, untuned, but the art/music/sounds/actual raid mechanics were there. WotLK shipped with Malygos/Sartharion - I'm not counting Naxx, because it was a copy and paste job.

The Deadmines (that's in Westfall for you nubs who call it VC) and Shadowfang Keep are now lvl 85 instances (5 player Heroic). SFK is understandable given the Worgen storyline, but I'm guessing the Defias are back!...for something. Maybe their ship (remember?) floats out the instance or something, I dunno.

Uldum - This new zone will have a couple of dungeons (mid level, max level).

Firelands - the Elemental Plane of Fire. It has Sulfuron Keep, which will sound familiar to anyone who has done Molten Core. Yes, Ragnaros is here, and he will indeed be a raid boss in the new expansion - this time at full strength (100% HP, I guess), and hopefully with some new moves. I guess that's goodbye to old MC! Maybe we'll find out what happens with Moira, the princess of Ironforge!

I'm calling it right now: When Ragnaros is engaged, he'll say something like this: "TOO LATE, INSECTS! YOU HAVE ARRIVED TOO LATE!"

Grim Batol - Orcs used to keep the Red Dragonflight as slaves here during the Second War. Now, the Twilight Hammer are inside, doing whatever they do to serve Deathwing. Grim Batol will have a max-level 5-man dungeon, and will be the location of the final raid of the expansion, as this is where Deathwing flies to after exploding the world.

The Skywall - The Elemental Plane of Air. Not much info atm, apparently it might be a one-boss raid, ala Onyxia. Also, a 5-man, 80-82 dungeon. I'm kind of hoping for some kind of follow up / new stuff on Thunderfury here.

Deepholm - The Elemental Plane of Earth. Since Deathwing came from here, you can be pretty sure that you'll be going down there at once point. The news is that there will be a 81-83 dungeon.

Blackwing Descent - USE ALL THE OLD RAIDS. That's right, Nefarian from Blackwing Lair is back!! I remember chopping off his head and sticking it up in Stormwind, but hey! In a cool twist, you fly to the instance portal via Nefarian's old throne room. Also, there will be a max-level 5-man dungeon called Blackrock Caverns - hopefully not as big as BRD.

Seriously, I'm looking forward to this one. BWL was, to me, the best instance of Vanilla WoW, probably because it had fuck all trash compared to the others. Plus, Nefarian and Vael were pretty cool encounters.

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NEW RACES
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NEW HORDE RACE: Goblins

Watch out bitches, Goblin Pimps in da house!!!

Blizzard have decided that the Horde need a small race, and that means Goblins. I would of preferred Leper Gnomes, but oh well. Goblins have the following classes: Death Knight, Hunter, Mage, Priest, Rogue, Shaman, Warlock, Warrior.

The Goblin racials are insane, and will no doubt be changed/removed because of their awesomeness. Wait until Cata's release to have a final list of info.

But...goblins are neutral! I visit their AH! Is Booty Bay now a Horde town?!

No. Goblins are divided into cartels - the Steamwheedle cartel runs the neutral towns and AHs that you see in the Old World. The Goblins that are in Cataclysm are from Kezan, the goblin home city. However, Kezan has been fucked up by the Cataclysm, and there are goblin refugees on the seas, with their cartels broken up or destroyed. One group of Goblins get washed up on the Lost Isles - a new zone for starting Goblins. Through a series of questlines (think DK start zone), you'll (re)join the Horde and be ready to level up in the (new) Old World.

Oh, and apparently they rescue Thrall from the Alliance. So yea, there's some lore for ya.

NEW ALLIANCE RACE: Worgen

Furries? Heavens no good sir, would you like a cup of tea RAWR EAT CHOMP

The Greymane Wall is a wall (duh) in Silverpine Forest blocking all access to Gilneas, one of the kingdoms of the Alliance in Warcraft 2. King Greymane built it to keep the Scourge out, and pretty much said "fuck you" to the Alliance.

However, the citizens of Gilneas were struck by the curse of the Worgen, which basically turns them into werewolves. After years of trying to cure themselves, they open the gate and ask the Night Elves to help them out, re-joining the Alliance. Oh, and they're under attack by the Forsaken, so that's another reason.

Gilneas is now open to the Alliance, and will be the starting zone for all Furries - I mean Worgen.

Worgen can be: Death Knight, Druid, Hunter, Mage, Priest, Rogue, Warlock, Warrior.

Also, Worgen are human out of combat. When in combat, they go into Worgen form. You can choose to be in Worgen form out of combat, but you can't be human in-combat.

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CLASSES, TALENTS, LEVEL CAP, GUILD
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LEVEL 90 WOOO?!

The level cap is 85, not 90.

I'm a talented player. Do I get more talents?!?!

Talent tree overhaul is in-game.

Where's my Gnome Mecha-Shaman?

Blizzard have relaxed their race/class combos, and now the following combos are available! Alas, no Gnome shamans. Yes, Tauren paladins. What. The. Fuck.

What the fuck is all this about Guild Achievements?!

In an effort to completely break people with OCD, Blizzard are introducing Guild Achievements. An example of a Guild Achievement would be "MyGuildHere has killed Arthas". They're also introducing RSS feed crap for tracking these things.

Guild Levelling? WTF IS THIS SHIT

Gain Guild XP and your Guild gains levels, which allow you to spend Guild talent points. Easy huh? How do you get XP? Shit like killing a raid boss, or having a player ding 80 while in your guild. Also, doing some Battleground with your guildies will get you some XP. What are the Guild talents? Things like Mass Resurrection for quicker raids, cheaper repair costs for your guildies, or Mass Summon your entire raid. Also, rare recipes can be shared for the entire guild. And you can buy Guild Heirlooms, for your alt-leveling needs.

Guild XP rates are independent of guild size.
Guilds can now be no larger than 1000 individual characters.

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ITEMS
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Man I can't wait to update my spreadsheets? What's the deal with stats?

The following stats are being removed; (gone as of 4.0.1)

Mp5 - replaced by Spirit (yes, for all classes). The current mp5 classes (Resto Shaman/Holy Pally) might get something via talents.
Spell Power - replaced by Int
Block Value - available only from Masterys (see below) and Talents, if your class has them.
Defense - available only from Masterys (see below) and Talents, if your class has them. (Yes, if you have a tanking spec, you will be ok)
Attack Power - replaced by Str for Warr/DK/Pala/Bear Druid, and replaced by Agi for Rog/Sham/Hunter/Cat Druid
Armour Penetration - available only from Masterys (see below) and Talents, if your class has them.

The following stats are being CHANGED; (currently in as of 4.0.1)

Spirit - DPS classes who use spirit to regen get talents to replace this, as Spirit will no longer be on DPS gear.
Haste - Increases the rate of regen for Energy/Focus (Hunters)/Rage/Runes. (Continues to increase ranged/melee attacks, so this is a bonus for melee classes)
Parry - No longer does 100% mitigation on an attack. Instead, the current attack and the next attack's damage are reduced by 50%.

I WANT FROSTMOURNE/ASHBRINGER

DPS casters will be first in line for a legendary in Cataclysm.

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PROFESSIONS
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What's my new grind?

It's a new profession called Archaeology. It's a secondary profession like Cooking/Fishing/First Aid, so you don't need to drop anything for it. At the moment, it looks like a gathering profession like Herbalism and Mining.

Cool, more shit to buy and grind. What's this Mastery thing? (currently in-game as of 4.0.1!)

You probably saw this during the class previews from Blizz (search MMO-Champ for a complete list). Basically, each talent tree has it's own, unique bonus. For every point you spend in a tree, you get bonuses. Here's the priest example;

For each talent point spent in the Holy tree, the priest also gets:

* Healing – Improves your healing by X%.
* Meditation – Improves your mana regeneration from Spirit in combat. This would likely replace the existing Meditation talent from the Discipline tree, which many Holy priests consider to be a “must-have.” Regeneration will also probably be determined by whether you are in or out of combat, and not the “five-second rule.”
* Radiance – Adds a heal-over-time effect to direct heals, such as Flash Heal. Mastery on gear would boost this bonus, and no other talent tree would grant it.

You can also get Mastery rating via gear. This Mastery Rating always improves the 3rd talent - in this case, Radiance. The 3rd Talent, btw, is considered the "cool" talent, and is unique per talent tree (so 30 cool masteries for each spec of each class).

Basically, it's a bonus, as Blizzard are chopping up the talent trees pretty hard. Also, you only get 1 mastery, which is based on the tree with the most points spent in it, don't try and get around it.

Ok then you dirty thief slut. What's Reforging?

Reforging is granted to all crafters - for example, leatherworkers can reforge leather, Tailors can do cloth, etc. The actual act of Reforging is stat redistribution. Don't need that stam? Turn it into crit! Obviously there's some limitations (you can't change a stat to something that's already on an item), but god damn it's pretty damn hot.

Example: Item has 50 Str and 50 Agi, but you want Spi instead of Agi. Reforging would change it to 50 Str, 25 Agi, 25 Spi.

(As you can see, it's not a perfect 1:1 swap, but it offers some flexibility, instead of "oh, not BiS? shard that shit")

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Remember: It's ok to cry. We're all gigantic nerds.
And now, a cute picture. Can you name all these raid bosses? And more importantly, spell them correctly!?

Spoiler below, highlight to read:
Anub'arak/Acidmaw/Archimonde/Dreadscale/The Lich King/Sindragosa/Lord Marrowgar/The Curator/Mother Shahraz/Mimiron/Shade of Akama? + Some watermelon dude?!/Illidan/M'uru/Icehowl/Lady Vashj/Princess Theradras/Ogre1?!/Ogre2!?/Blood Queen Lana'thel/Kael'thas Sunstrider + Al'ar/Doomwalker/Blood Princes Keleseth-Valanar-Taldaram/Goremok the Impaler/Zul'Jin/Eydis Darkbane/Brutallus/Gruul the Dragonkiller/Magtheridon/Fjola Lightbane/Festergut/SKELETON DUDE?!/Essence of Souls/Grand Warlock Alythess/Lady Sacrolash/Professer Putricide + Stinky/Rotface/Onyxia/Valithria Dreamwalker/Kil'jaeden/Precious/The Lurker Below/Sadako...I guess.

Kaji · 23rd November 2010, 10:10 PM

Reserved, but I can tell you that the servers won't be up until 4am tomorrow morning - then they'll break again!

Go get some sun!

mr_mordred2095 · 23rd November 2010, 10:10 PM

I've quit the game, but...

FIRST!

Brad7000 · 23rd November 2010, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by mr_mordred2095

I've quit the game, but...

FIRST!

Yeah, I'm bored shitless of it atm. 8 80s and not even slightly excited about cata.

Wish I got some SS's in various places in the old world before it changes though

doubt I will even buy cata on release

CAPT-Irrelevant · 23rd November 2010, 10:33 PM

Obligatory:

inb4 nostalgia

supernom · 23rd November 2010, 10:47 PM

Love that post man good job

Told me a lot of things I didn't know

r8response · 23rd November 2010, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaji

I'm calling it right now: When Ragnaros is engaged, he'll say something like this: "TOO LATE, INSECTS! YOU HAVE ARRIVED TOO LATE!"

"MOLTEN CORE WAS JUST A SETBACK!!"

Cape_Horn · 23rd November 2010, 10:54 PM

Pity the loader hasn't started the final unlocks/4.0.3a patching yet.
oh well, turn on my machine(s) in the morning and start them going then.

Nightwish · 23rd November 2010, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Cape_Horn

Pity the loader hasn't started the final unlocks/4.0.3a patching yet.
oh well, turn on my machine(s) in the morning and start them going then.

darn I was just about to ask how big the patch was

god I can't wait till I log in tomorrow I'm going to miss Azeroth as i've known it for the past few years *wipes tear from eye* but I can't wait for new content! ^_^ and i'm definately creating a troll druid tomorrow I wanna see the green mo-hawk bear

OOOHHH there is a patch downloading now

a suprisingly small one, only 27mb I wonder if this is some kind of pre-patch or if we've already previously downloaded all the new data with the last few patches?

*jumps and screams in excitement as cata opening movie is playing on her PC*

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sabretooth · 24th November 2010, 1:19 AM

Yeah, if you fire up the launcher now, it'll update, play the cinematic, and update your login screen.

I had to run the launcher three times before it updated properly and stopped throwing errors.

Nightwish · 24th November 2010, 1:47 AM

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Originally Posted by sabretooth

Yeah, if you fire up the launcher now, it'll update, play the cinematic, and update your login screen.

I had to run the launcher three times before it updated properly and stopped throwing errors.

How odd I had no such issue but in order to get my launcher to actually download the patch I had to "log in" first then it detected there was a patch and installed it... HOWEVER I did have to repair my install as my "non critical updates" were not installing which was causing 4.0.3a to not download

Nikita · 24th November 2010, 2:50 AM

I think the patch was only the new cinematic and update of the log in screen. Looks awesome

Submariner · 24th November 2010, 3:11 AM

Worked great, no problem, which is a first for my computer.

My Horde rogue and another level 80 hunter were doing the Pilgrim's Peril and we were on our way back from Exodar, on the boat, when we noticed the server was going down in 15 seconds. It was an "oh, shit" moment. Nothing we could do, hearthstones were on cooldown and we were in the middle of the sea. Now looking at the cinematic and Darkshore dock gets destroyed? Best I can hope for is to be dead in graveyard?

mr_mordred2095 · 24th November 2010, 3:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Submariner

Worked great, no problem, which is a first for my computer.

My Horde rogue and another level 80 hunter were doing the Pilgrim's Peril and we were on our way back from Exodar, on the boat, when we noticed the server was going down in 15 seconds. It was an "oh, shit" moment. Nothing we could do, hearthstones were on cooldown and we were in the middle of the sea. Now looking at the cinematic and Darkshore dock gets destroyed? Best I can hope for is to be dead in graveyard?

The 5 minutes worth of warnings before that didn't give you any indication?

leroyxx · 24th November 2010, 4:33 AM

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Originally Posted by mr_mordred2095

The 5 minutes worth of warnings before that didn't give you any indication?

doesnt it give you 15 minutes warning? lol.

23rd November 2010, 10:09 PM	#1
Kaji Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: 백두산 Posts: 4,618	Cataclysm Megathread - 4.3 out, I AM FROM THE FUTURE Regular Updates When New Shit Comes Out And Totally Breaks Everything 4.1 Out! - Don't try and sell your account here, you'll get banned. There's plenty of other places on the Intrawebz that will do it. Use Google, and pretty much assume that you're going to get fucked in the pooper. Seriously, it's a dodgy world out there. ---- (original OP from here on, alas was censored heavily. Apparently it's ok to swear a little, but not a lot, 5 fucks are ok compared to 200 fucks, think of the children) ---- The world has exploded! We've hit 5000 posts! It's patch night! Beta is officially closed! What better reason to start a new thread!! Can't be bothered finding out what's in 4.0.3a? Here's a quick list!! What is in 4.0.3a: * Portals in Dalaran/Shattrath Removed * Class trainers in Dalaran where portals once were * New race-class combinations (excluding worgen/goblin) * New Gnome/Troll starting areas * Changes to existing zones * New cata load screens * New cata intro cinematic * New cata login screen * New music * City Quartermasters, with rep tabards * Bug fixes * Class balancing * Druids, paladins, priests, and shaman will have their talent trees reset * Experience required to gain levels 71 through 80 is being reduced by 20% * New tamable hunter pets (Monkey, fox, dog, and beetle, as well as new skins for existing pet classes.) What is not in (this stuff comes in on Dec.8, 7pm AEST (12am PST) - when the final data is pushed to servers) * Creating worgen/goblin characters * Worgen/Goblin start zones * Archeology * Professions past 450 (Illustrious Grand Master) * Guild leveling * Guild achievements * Eastern Kingdoms/Kalimdor flight * New Zones (80+) We now return you to the awesome, awesome OP. World of Warcraft: Cataclysm Discussion/bitching/I'm quitting thread/MY IMMERSION BUUUURRRNNNN ------------------ INTRODUCTION ------------------ Welcome to the WoW general discussion thread, where we bitch and moan about every god damn thing, even though we've been playing this game for 6 fucking years! For a thread history, please refer to... 1st thread - Nov 2k4 to Feb 2k6 - Includes release drama, Azuregos / Kazzak, introduction of the Honour System, Battlegrounds, Blackwing Lair, Zul'Gurub, 4 World Dragons, and Ahn'Qiraj 20/40 causes massive tears! 2nd thread - Feb 2k6 to Feb 2k7 - Includes Tier 0.5, Old Naxxramas, and the release drama of the first expansion, The Burning Crusade (TBC)!! 3rd thread - Feb 2k7 to Oct 2k7 - More TBC drama, then the release of Black Temple and we finally get to see Illidan! 4th thread - Oct 2k7 to April 2k8 - Voice Chat is released! (lol) and Zul'Aman Bear Adventures! 5th thread - April 2k8 to Nov 2k8 - Sunwell Plateau comes out and utterly destroys us all! Then patch 3.0 comes along and nerfs everything to shit for the preparation of... 6th thread - Nov 2k8 to Nov 2k9 - Wrath of the Lich King! All the release drama and tears, all the way up to the Argent Tournament and pre 3.3!! 7th thread - Nov 2k9 to Dec 2k10 - Patch 3.3! We finally find out what happens to the Lich King, and then we cry about what's happening in the latest expansion, Cataclysm! If you're interested in other WoW topics here... Cataclysm Beta discussion thread - Our topic on the 3rd expansion pack while it was in alpha/beta, due out sometime in 2010. I'm guessing somewhere between June and Septemter, but there's no release date. (Update: dates wrong again, confirmed now for Dec 7!) WoW Contact Thread - find out where your fellow crybabies are and cry in-game together!! First reply in the first WoW thread: "I dont understand, you spose to buy WOW, then PAY monthly to play it? wtf is that sounds like a rip-off, more ways for them to make a quick dollar." Oh my, how things have changed. -------------------------------- New expansion = New thread! For the new people who are just starting WoW Yes, it costs money to play. If you can handle that, then these are the sites you need to know; www.worldofwarcraft.com - DUH. This is where your money goes. forums.worldofwarcraft.com - The worst place on the internet. Seriously, you will drown in the tears. Unfortunately, Blizzard releases any breaking news here first, along with server status updates. (Disclaimer: The UI forum is actually quite awesome) www.wowhead.com - Greatest WoW site ever. If you can't get your quest/item/where-do-I-go question solved here, you're either not looking hard enough, or no-one knows! (unlikely, these neckbearded nerds are fucking slobbering at the idea of telling you how to play) www.wowpedia.org - Have a question about the game itself? Lore? History? Mechanics? It's all here. Ignore any lore or story that the WoW comics tell, they suck elephant semen. Offshoot of WoWWiki, which was no.1 for years, then was utterly destroyed by Wikia's stupid policies. www.mmo-champion.com - WoW news, delivered daily! Focuses more on high-end content, but hey, what else is there?! Run by a French guy, but nothing's perfect. Nowadays, it's pretty much the king-shit of WoW sites, and for good reason. www.worldofraids.com - Another WoW news site, but not as popular as MMO-Champ. Both owned by the same company now. www.curse.com - Fucking horrible sell-outs, but it's the no.1 UI site out there. Combined with the UI forums at the official site, you'll get all your modding needs. ------------------ STORYLINE, LORELOL ------------------ I have literally been high on meth for the last 2 years. What is going on man Ok, a (very) quick lore WotLK recap. After we killed Illidan, Vashj and Kael (twice) in TBC, and stopped Kil'jaeden's return via the Sunwell, The Lich King decided that now was the best time to make use of his new body (Arthas) and take over the world. The basic plot progression was; * Scourge Invasion of capital cities. Plague runs rampant, turning players into zombies. Leaders get pissed. * A large faction of Death Knights break free (including The Ashbringer's son) from the Lich King's control, rejoin their old factions. Tirion Fordring cleanses the Ashbringer (the sword), and vows to make tender love to Arthas. * Naxxramas returns to Northrend, Kel'Thuzad and his minions return to...er...death? unlife? whatever. * Horde and Alliance actually ally together to take on Lich King at the Wrathgate. Turns out very bad - Highlord Bolvar gets taken prisoner by the Scourge, Saurfang Jr. is undead and a slave to the Lich King. Both sides get rather touchy. * Naxxramas is destroyed, again. * Malygos, Aspect of Magic, decides that mortals have fucked up the world long enough. He wages a war against magic users (called the Nexus War), and although well-intentioned, almost blows up the fucking world. In the end, the Kirin Tor with the help of the Red Dragonflight, kill the lord of all magic, leaving quite the job vacancy. * The Obsidian Sanctum is opened. A personal breeding ground for the Black Dragonflight, we see that Sartharion (and some friends) is watching over some weird-ass dragon eggs which are from the Twilight Dragonflight, weird experimental babies. The heroes, as usual, slaughter the babies, but the Twilight Dragonflight is far from finished... * Ulduar, a titan facility, is unlocked in the Storm Peaks. We find out that it's a prison, holding a Old God called Yogg-Saron. He's taken over the joint, and it's up to us to clear house. We defeat him, and all is well!....until we realise that there are more Old Gods out there. * Fordring, after seeing the betrayal and massacre at Wrathgate, watches some anime and decides to run a tournament to promote good will between the Horde and Alliance, and get them to focus on the real bad guy. Lich King tries to spoil it by unleashing Anub'arak on us, fails miserably ala Dr. Claw. * We find out the truth about the merging (Arthas suppresses his humanity and the original Lich King, Nerzhul). We then raid his pale ass, removing Arthas as Lich King. Arthas dies, and Bolvar, in an effort to prevent the now-leaderless undead from running wild, takes up the crown and becomes the new Lich King. Will no doubt be corrupted, just in time for another raid. * Now that the Malygos is dead, Yogg Saron is defeated and Scourge is contained by Bolvar, the Black Dragonflight decide it's a good time to finally get in on the Red Dragonflight's shit, and invade the Ruby Sanctum. However, even with the help of their Twilight Dragon, they fail. Of course, it's all part of Deathwing's plan to fuck with the world, which leads to his glorious return. ------------------ NEW STUFF ------------------ Ok so Deathwing's back and he blew up the world, what's new Level cap increased to 85. New race/class combos available (Tauren Priests, Human Hunters, etc Old World zones (Kalimdor and Old Kingdom) changed and updated (see below for more details) 2 New races: Goblins for Horde, Worgen for the Alliance Talent trees complete overhaul (currently in-game as of 4.0.1) New secondary profession: Archaeology. Profession cap lifted to 525. Reforging (currently in-game) New bonuses for Guilds (Guild Achieves, reputations, etc) Much, much more Old World revamp? Vanilla (1-60) questing sucks ass. With Deathwing's return, the Old World gets completely fucked up. Lava, floods, earthquakes, the whole shebang. This gave Blizz the chance to redesign the entire quest flow of 1-60 to better emulate that of the two expansion packs. By all accounts, it is much, MUCH better. Also, the environmental changes are awesome - Barrens is split in two by a chasm of lava, for example. Don't worry, this revamp includes new content for max-level players as well; Deepholm - The Elemental Plane of Earth, and the place where Deathwing has been hiding out. The new Hub Zone of the expansion, this is where you'll find portals to other new zones. I don't think there will be a new Shattrath/Dalaran, since we're in the Old World anyway. Expect to hang out in IF/Org a lot more. Uldum - yes, that big door in Tanaris has finally opened - and it actually leads to a whole new Zone! Apperantly, the sea behind Tanaris was just an illusion, or something. Who cares, it's more Titan shit, and Brann Bronzebeard is back, ready to h4x some shit. Home to a new race of cat things called the Tolvir, it'll have at least two dungeons, and probably another raid later on, similar to Ulduar. As expected from anything surrounded by sand, it's got an Egyptian theme, and I'm hoping for some Stargate references. SEVENTH CHEVRON, LOCKED!! Man, I can see a wormhole boss already. Mt. Hyjal - no, not lvl 70 raid instance in Caverns of Time, the real one! Currently, Hyjal is off-limits, with anyone trying to get in being kicked out right away. Previously, you could get in via Winterspring, and see some pretty cool things, like Archimonde's skeleton and the World Tree, and the entrance to Illidan's old prison (supposedly). Now that the Cataclysm has happened, it's a tad different. That old flame of ours, Ragnaros, has sneaked in the back door and used Deathwing's re-entry into Azeroth as a way to get back into our world. Rag is rather pissed about being banished oh-so-long ago (TOO SOON), and now has the World Tree under siege. This new Hyjal is a Zone, so expect questing! Sunken City of Vash'jir - oooh, there's a name. Yes, its a Zone that that bitch in SSC, Lady Vashj used to live in. The first true underwater Zone, we can fight on the ocean floor and use swimming mounts!! Also, it has a gateway to the Abyssal Maw, the Elemental Plane of Water, so expect a raid boss there one day! Twilight Highlands - Grim Batol (in the Wetlands, has lots of Red Dragons), has been finally cracked open by the Cataclysm. The Twilight Hammer cult have moved in on the Wetlands and are busy fucking things up. The Horde and Alliance will have new towns here, so expect some questing alongside the Red Dragonflight. ------------------ RAIDS ------------------ Blizzard have come to their senses and realised that WotLK's raid content has been lacking (read: sucks), and have said that Cataclysm will ship with the most raid content to date. For reference, TBC shipped with Gruul/Magtheridon/SSC/TK/Kara - yes, untuned, but the art/music/sounds/actual raid mechanics were there. WotLK shipped with Malygos/Sartharion - I'm not counting Naxx, because it was a copy and paste job. The Deadmines (that's in Westfall for you nubs who call it VC) and Shadowfang Keep are now lvl 85 instances (5 player Heroic). SFK is understandable given the Worgen storyline, but I'm guessing the Defias are back!...for something. Maybe their ship (remember?) floats out the instance or something, I dunno. Uldum - This new zone will have a couple of dungeons (mid level, max level). Firelands - the Elemental Plane of Fire. It has Sulfuron Keep, which will sound familiar to anyone who has done Molten Core. Yes, Ragnaros is here, and he will indeed be a raid boss in the new expansion - this time at full strength (100% HP, I guess), and hopefully with some new moves. I guess that's goodbye to old MC! Maybe we'll find out what happens with Moira, the princess of Ironforge! I'm calling it right now: When Ragnaros is engaged, he'll say something like this: "TOO LATE, INSECTS! YOU HAVE ARRIVED TOO LATE!" Grim Batol - Orcs used to keep the Red Dragonflight as slaves here during the Second War. Now, the Twilight Hammer are inside, doing whatever they do to serve Deathwing. Grim Batol will have a max-level 5-man dungeon, and will be the location of the final raid of the expansion, as this is where Deathwing flies to after exploding the world. The Skywall - The Elemental Plane of Air. Not much info atm, apparently it might be a one-boss raid, ala Onyxia. Also, a 5-man, 80-82 dungeon. I'm kind of hoping for some kind of follow up / new stuff on Thunderfury here. Deepholm - The Elemental Plane of Earth. Since Deathwing came from here, you can be pretty sure that you'll be going down there at once point. The news is that there will be a 81-83 dungeon. Blackwing Descent - USE ALL THE OLD RAIDS. That's right, Nefarian from Blackwing Lair is back!! I remember chopping off his head and sticking it up in Stormwind, but hey! In a cool twist, you fly to the instance portal via Nefarian's old throne room. Also, there will be a max-level 5-man dungeon called Blackrock Caverns - hopefully not as big as BRD. Seriously, I'm looking forward to this one. BWL was, to me, the best instance of Vanilla WoW, probably because it had fuck all trash compared to the others. Plus, Nefarian and Vael were pretty cool encounters. ------------------ NEW RACES ------------------ NEW HORDE RACE: Goblins Watch out bitches, Goblin Pimps in da house!!! Blizzard have decided that the Horde need a small race, and that means Goblins. I would of preferred Leper Gnomes, but oh well. Goblins have the following classes: Death Knight, Hunter, Mage, Priest, Rogue, Shaman, Warlock, Warrior. The Goblin racials are insane, and will no doubt be changed/removed because of their awesomeness. Wait until Cata's release to have a final list of info. But...goblins are neutral! I visit their AH! Is Booty Bay now a Horde town?! No. Goblins are divided into cartels - the Steamwheedle cartel runs the neutral towns and AHs that you see in the Old World. The Goblins that are in Cataclysm are from Kezan, the goblin home city. However, Kezan has been fucked up by the Cataclysm, and there are goblin refugees on the seas, with their cartels broken up or destroyed. One group of Goblins get washed up on the Lost Isles - a new zone for starting Goblins. Through a series of questlines (think DK start zone), you'll (re)join the Horde and be ready to level up in the (new) Old World. Oh, and apparently they rescue Thrall from the Alliance. So yea, there's some lore for ya. NEW ALLIANCE RACE: Worgen Furries? Heavens no good sir, would you like a cup of tea RAWR EAT CHOMP The Greymane Wall is a wall (duh) in Silverpine Forest blocking all access to Gilneas, one of the kingdoms of the Alliance in Warcraft 2. King Greymane built it to keep the Scourge out, and pretty much said "fuck you" to the Alliance. However, the citizens of Gilneas were struck by the curse of the Worgen, which basically turns them into werewolves. After years of trying to cure themselves, they open the gate and ask the Night Elves to help them out, re-joining the Alliance. Oh, and they're under attack by the Forsaken, so that's another reason. Gilneas is now open to the Alliance, and will be the starting zone for all Furries - I mean Worgen. Worgen can be: Death Knight, Druid, Hunter, Mage, Priest, Rogue, Warlock, Warrior. Also, Worgen are human out of combat. When in combat, they go into Worgen form. You can choose to be in Worgen form out of combat, but you can't be human in-combat. ------------------- CLASSES, TALENTS, LEVEL CAP, GUILD ------------------- LEVEL 90 WOOO?! The level cap is 85, not 90. I'm a talented player. Do I get more talents?!?! Talent tree overhaul is in-game. Where's my Gnome Mecha-Shaman? Blizzard have relaxed their race/class combos, and now the following combos are available! Alas, no Gnome shamans. Yes, Tauren paladins. What. The. Fuck. What the fuck is all this about Guild Achievements?! In an effort to completely break people with OCD, Blizzard are introducing Guild Achievements. An example of a Guild Achievement would be "MyGuildHere has killed Arthas". They're also introducing RSS feed crap for tracking these things. Guild Levelling? WTF IS THIS SHIT Gain Guild XP and your Guild gains levels, which allow you to spend Guild talent points. Easy huh? How do you get XP? Shit like killing a raid boss, or having a player ding 80 while in your guild. Also, doing some Battleground with your guildies will get you some XP. What are the Guild talents? Things like Mass Resurrection for quicker raids, cheaper repair costs for your guildies, or Mass Summon your entire raid. Also, rare recipes can be shared for the entire guild. And you can buy Guild Heirlooms, for your alt-leveling needs. Guild XP rates are independent of guild size. Guilds can now be no larger than 1000 individual characters. ------------------- ITEMS ------------------- Man I can't wait to update my spreadsheets? What's the deal with stats? The following stats are being removed; (gone as of 4.0.1) Mp5 - replaced by Spirit (yes, for all classes). The current mp5 classes (Resto Shaman/Holy Pally) might get something via talents. Spell Power - replaced by Int Block Value - available only from Masterys (see below) and Talents, if your class has them. Defense - available only from Masterys (see below) and Talents, if your class has them. (Yes, if you have a tanking spec, you will be ok) Attack Power - replaced by Str for Warr/DK/Pala/Bear Druid, and replaced by Agi for Rog/Sham/Hunter/Cat Druid Armour Penetration - available only from Masterys (see below) and Talents, if your class has them. The following stats are being CHANGED; (currently in as of 4.0.1) Spirit - DPS classes who use spirit to regen get talents to replace this, as Spirit will no longer be on DPS gear. Haste - Increases the rate of regen for Energy/Focus (Hunters)/Rage/Runes. (Continues to increase ranged/melee attacks, so this is a bonus for melee classes) Parry - No longer does 100% mitigation on an attack. Instead, the current attack and the next attack's damage are reduced by 50%. I WANT FROSTMOURNE/ASHBRINGER DPS casters will be first in line for a legendary in Cataclysm. ------------------- PROFESSIONS ------------------- What's my new grind? It's a new profession called Archaeology. It's a secondary profession like Cooking/Fishing/First Aid, so you don't need to drop anything for it. At the moment, it looks like a gathering profession like Herbalism and Mining. Cool, more shit to buy and grind. What's this Mastery thing? (currently in-game as of 4.0.1!) You probably saw this during the class previews from Blizz (search MMO-Champ for a complete list). Basically, each talent tree has it's own, unique bonus. For every point you spend in a tree, you get bonuses. Here's the priest example; For each talent point spent in the Holy tree, the priest also gets: * Healing – Improves your healing by X%. * Meditation – Improves your mana regeneration from Spirit in combat. This would likely replace the existing Meditation talent from the Discipline tree, which many Holy priests consider to be a “must-have.” Regeneration will also probably be determined by whether you are in or out of combat, and not the “five-second rule.” * Radiance – Adds a heal-over-time effect to direct heals, such as Flash Heal. Mastery on gear would boost this bonus, and no other talent tree would grant it. You can also get Mastery rating via gear. This Mastery Rating always improves the 3rd talent - in this case, Radiance. The 3rd Talent, btw, is considered the "cool" talent, and is unique per talent tree (so 30 cool masteries for each spec of each class). Basically, it's a bonus, as Blizzard are chopping up the talent trees pretty hard. Also, you only get 1 mastery, which is based on the tree with the most points spent in it, don't try and get around it. Ok then you dirty thief slut. What's Reforging? Reforging is granted to all crafters - for example, leatherworkers can reforge leather, Tailors can do cloth, etc. The actual act of Reforging is stat redistribution. Don't need that stam? Turn it into crit! Obviously there's some limitations (you can't change a stat to something that's already on an item), but god damn it's pretty damn hot. Example: Item has 50 Str and 50 Agi, but you want Spi instead of Agi. Reforging would change it to 50 Str, 25 Agi, 25 Spi. (As you can see, it's not a perfect 1:1 swap, but it offers some flexibility, instead of "oh, not BiS? shard that shit") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Remember: It's ok to cry. We're all gigantic nerds. And now, a cute picture. Can you name all these raid bosses? And more importantly, spell them correctly!? Spoiler below, highlight to read: Anub'arak/Acidmaw/Archimonde/Dreadscale/The Lich King/Sindragosa/Lord Marrowgar/The Curator/Mother Shahraz/Mimiron/Shade of Akama? + Some watermelon dude?!/Illidan/M'uru/Icehowl/Lady Vashj/Princess Theradras/Ogre1?!/Ogre2!?/Blood Queen Lana'thel/Kael'thas Sunstrider + Al'ar/Doomwalker/Blood Princes Keleseth-Valanar-Taldaram/Goremok the Impaler/Zul'Jin/Eydis Darkbane/Brutallus/Gruul the Dragonkiller/Magtheridon/Fjola Lightbane/Festergut/SKELETON DUDE?!/Essence of Souls/Grand Warlock Alythess/Lady Sacrolash/Professer Putricide + Stinky/Rotface/Onyxia/Valithria Dreamwalker/Kil'jaeden/Precious/The Lurker Below/Sadako...I guess. __________________ I was born ready. I'm Ron fucking Swanson. Goodnight, sweet prince. Last edited by Kaji; 9th June 2011 at 11:30 AM.

23rd November 2010, 10:10 PM	#2
Kaji Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: 백두산 Posts: 4,618	Reserved, but I can tell you that the servers won't be up until 4am tomorrow morning - then they'll break again! Go get some sun! __________________ I was born ready. I'm Ron fucking Swanson. Goodnight, sweet prince.

23rd November 2010, 10:33 PM	#5
CAPT-Irrelevant Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Sydney Posts: 3,586	Obligatory: inb4 nostalgia __________________ FALADIS - P6T-SE \| i7 920 + Zalman CNPS 10X \| 8GB XMS3 C8 \| Sapphire 5870 1GB \| Seagate 7200.12 500GB + 1TB \| FT01 \| CoolerMaster 1000W \| LG BH12LS38 \| G15 (v2) \| W7 x64 Ultimate \| Creative I-Trigue 3400 PHYRAXUS - DP67DE \| i3 2100 \| 2GB XMS3 C9 \| EVGA GT430 1GB \| Samsung F4EG HD204UI 2TB x4 \| PC-V354B \| OCZ Fatal1y 550W \| Fedora 15 x64 + 4TB MDRAID5 ASICUS - ASUS N61JQ (W7 x64 Ultimate + Fedora 13 x64) \| HYPHAERION - HP Compaq 2510p (Fedora 16 x64)

24th November 2010, 2:50 AM	#12
Nikita Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Brisbane Posts: 413	I think the patch was only the new cinematic and update of the log in screen. Looks awesome Last edited by Nikita; 24th November 2010 at 9:38 AM.

24th November 2010, 3:11 AM	#13
Submariner Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Suffolk Park, NSW Posts: 2,787	Worked great, no problem, which is a first for my computer. My Horde rogue and another level 80 hunter were doing the Pilgrim's Peril and we were on our way back from Exodar, on the boat, when we noticed the server was going down in 15 seconds. It was an "oh, shit" moment. Nothing we could do, hearthstones were on cooldown and we were in the middle of the sea. Now looking at the cinematic and Darkshore dock gets destroyed? Best I can hope for is to be dead in graveyard? __________________ Knowledge Brings Fear

23rd November 2010, 10:10 PM	#3
mr_mordred2095 Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Brisbane Posts: 3,592	I've quit the game, but... FIRST!

23rd November 2010, 10:47 PM	#6
supernom Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Lyndhurst, Melb Posts: 1,443	Love that post man good job Told me a lot of things I didn't know

24th November 2010, 1:19 AM	#10
sabretooth Overdue for a new title Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: QLD Posts: 8,275	Yeah, if you fire up the launcher now, it'll update, play the cinematic, and update your login screen. I had to run the launcher three times before it updated properly and stopped throwing errors.