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Stewey · 21st June 2012, 9:12 PM

The stains I use are the Feast Watson stains in the little bottles. You can get them from Bunnings which is easy and primarily why I use them.

I mix it with metho to dilute the colour down. Good luck with your project.

Thraxeh · 6th August 2012, 5:08 PM

Hi Stewey, this thread has inspired me to refinish a bass I already refinished with auto lacquer.

I take it its just a mater of sanding back what I did previously, and that should be fine as a primer coat and I can just start spraying right over it?

What grit sand paper would you suggest before starting the new coat? And how long do you wait after applying each coat?

Stewey · 6th August 2012, 9:26 PM

Hi Thraxeh, yeah, as long as you are using the same type of paint you can use the existing paint as a primer.

If the paint is pretty smooth as it is I would use a 320 or 400 no fill dry paper just to scuff it up. If you have scratches and dents to get rid of I would go with 240 to start. Make sure you get a tack cloth or something similar to get the dust off thoroughly before you start painting again.

Waiting time between coats is a difficult question to answer. With lacquers I found it good personally to wait twice as long as what the manufacturer suggests. This usually meant that the last coat was touch dry which is fine as lacquer burns into the previous coat. This also depends on the weather as well, right now I would be waiting a little longer again.

It's not too hard to get right, especially if you are using cans. Just make sure it is really, really dry before you decide to sand and polish it.

Good luck.

Thraxeh · 7th August 2012, 1:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Stewey

Hi Thraxeh, yeah, as long as you are using the same type of paint you can use the existing paint as a primer.

If the paint is pretty smooth as it is I would use a 320 or 400 no fill dry paper just to scuff it up. If you have scratches and dents to get rid of I would go with 240 to start. Make sure you get a tack cloth or something similar to get the dust off thoroughly before you start painting again.

Waiting time between coats is a difficult question to answer. With lacquers I found it good personally to wait twice as long as what the manufacturer suggests. This usually meant that the last coat was touch dry which is fine as lacquer burns into the previous coat. This also depends on the weather as well, right now I would be waiting a little longer again.

It's not too hard to get right, especially if you are using cans. Just make sure it is really, really dry before you decide to sand and polish it.

Good luck.

Cheers for getting back to me.

I think my biggest problem last time was not waiting long enough to do the final sand and polish. It still ended up looking great, but I'm looking to sell this bass and the design I have on it now is very "unique" I need to choose a solid colour.

Thraxeh · 31st August 2012, 11:48 AM

I think I may have made a mistake in which paint I should have used.

I bought a can of Black Gloss. Sprayed it on, let it dry for 3 weeks.

Today I went to sand it back to get it ready for clear coat, and it seems that I'm sanding off what appears to be the "gloss" part of the finish and leaving a dull/matte black/really dark grey finish...

Did I fuckup in choosing gloss? Should I go with matte or a different finish if i'm using a clear coat?

Edit: My friend is getting me in touch with someone who refinishes guitars to do this properly. I dont have the patience to do this properly

Ravennoir · 31st August 2012, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thraxeh

I think I may have made a mistake in which paint I should have used.

I bought a can of Black Gloss. Sprayed it on, let it dry for 3 weeks.

Today I went to sand it back to get it ready for clear coat, and it seems that I'm sanding off what appears to be the "gloss" part of the finish and leaving a dull/matte black/really dark grey finish...

Did I fuckup in choosing gloss? Should I go with matte or a different finish if i'm using a clear coat?

Edit: My friend is getting me in touch with someone who refinishes guitars to do this properly. I dont have the patience to do this properly

The Clear coat will be gloss, you will still need to sand it, but you need to get finer and finer grain (and then a polish) to get it to come up gloss

I actually wanted a matte finish on mine, but decided that was going to be even harder than the gloss (to get right)

jclei · 4th September 2012, 11:09 AM

Wow that looks great, well done. I am very impressed by your workmanship and just had a look through your other builds and now Im more impressed

You have inspired me to buy the tele kit and have a go at putting it together. I have been in the market for a decent Fender Tele for a while now but due to the first baby being due this year I just havent been able to find the money.

I think having a go at this will give me a great project to have a go at and in the end ill end up with a Tele of my own doing.

I have touched up a couple of old cars in the past so hopefully that will put me in good stead for the painting side of things.

21st June 2012, 9:12 PM	#76
Stewey Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Brisbane Posts: 462	The stains I use are the Feast Watson stains in the little bottles. You can get them from Bunnings which is easy and primarily why I use them. I mix it with metho to dilute the colour down. Good luck with your project. __________________ I'd Rather Be A BASS Player Club Member #07 OCAU Guitar Players Club

6th August 2012, 5:08 PM	#77
Thraxeh Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Sydney Australia NSW Posts: 4,132	Hi Stewey, this thread has inspired me to refinish a bass I already refinished with auto lacquer. I take it its just a mater of sanding back what I did previously, and that should be fine as a primer coat and I can just start spraying right over it? What grit sand paper would you suggest before starting the new coat? And how long do you wait after applying each coat? __________________ Thraxeh's YouTube Channel - Check out my music!

6th August 2012, 9:26 PM	#78
Stewey Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Brisbane Posts: 462	Hi Thraxeh, yeah, as long as you are using the same type of paint you can use the existing paint as a primer. If the paint is pretty smooth as it is I would use a 320 or 400 no fill dry paper just to scuff it up. If you have scratches and dents to get rid of I would go with 240 to start. Make sure you get a tack cloth or something similar to get the dust off thoroughly before you start painting again. Waiting time between coats is a difficult question to answer. With lacquers I found it good personally to wait twice as long as what the manufacturer suggests. This usually meant that the last coat was touch dry which is fine as lacquer burns into the previous coat. This also depends on the weather as well, right now I would be waiting a little longer again. It's not too hard to get right, especially if you are using cans. Just make sure it is really, really dry before you decide to sand and polish it. Good luck. __________________ I'd Rather Be A BASS Player Club Member #07 OCAU Guitar Players Club

31st August 2012, 11:48 AM	#80
Thraxeh Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Sydney Australia NSW Posts: 4,132	I think I may have made a mistake in which paint I should have used. I bought a can of Black Gloss. Sprayed it on, let it dry for 3 weeks. Today I went to sand it back to get it ready for clear coat, and it seems that I'm sanding off what appears to be the "gloss" part of the finish and leaving a dull/matte black/really dark grey finish... Did I fuckup in choosing gloss? Should I go with matte or a different finish if i'm using a clear coat? Edit: My friend is getting me in touch with someone who refinishes guitars to do this properly. I dont have the patience to do this properly __________________ Thraxeh's YouTube Channel - Check out my music! Last edited by Thraxeh; 31st August 2012 at 12:17 PM.

4th September 2012, 11:09 AM	#82
jclei Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Melbourne Posts: 45	Wow that looks great, well done. I am very impressed by your workmanship and just had a look through your other builds and now Im more impressed You have inspired me to buy the tele kit and have a go at putting it together. I have been in the market for a decent Fender Tele for a while now but due to the first baby being due this year I just havent been able to find the money. I think having a go at this will give me a great project to have a go at and in the end ill end up with a Tele of my own doing. I have touched up a couple of old cars in the past so hopefully that will put me in good stead for the painting side of things.