GXT 275 -> GTX 570 - Worth it?

barbz · 10th April 2011, 12:54 PM

Hi all

My gtx 277 is the oldest part in my machine and im wondering if its worth upgrading to a 570 to go with the 27" monitor arriving this week.

Looking at the Inno3d gtx 570 for ~$380.

Thoughts? Options/Ideas?

Paul

Sledge · 10th April 2011, 1:21 PM

definately.. i went from a GTX275 to 2x GTX460.. very nice bump..

BuzzPuppy · 10th April 2011, 1:21 PM

What type of 27" monitor is it? Is it like the Dell U2711 with 2560x1440 resolution or the cheaper ones which are 1920x1080?

ChaosMaster · 10th April 2011, 1:28 PM

Lolz, does it matter what res? It's going to be a huge upgrade either way. You'll definitely notice the gains. If your thinking Innod3D though, how about considering Gainward, PCCASEGEAR has them for $350

mevereyn · 10th April 2011, 6:17 PM

Totally pwns the 275.

Another option would be the HD6970, for basically the same money. Better performance overall, but of course it depends on the extra features you might want, plus maybe brand loyalty or preference.

Just a thought, though.

PiNoY · 10th April 2011, 8:50 PM

i have both 570gtx and 6950 flashed to 6970bios.

either way you'll be happy, but i think best value is getting the 6950 for $250~ and flashing it.

flu!d · 10th April 2011, 8:53 PM

As someone that upgraded from two GTX275's in NVS to two GTX570's in NVS, I can say that you will see roughly a 70% gain in performance.

The best thing about sticking with NV is that you get to continue to use the NV control panel....As opposed to the alternative....

issa2006 · 11th April 2011, 12:27 AM

Depends on resolution playing and if you cpu can keep up(3.6ghz?)+

2x275 =295=480=560 ar 3.6ghz cpu + 1920x122 on my system.(q9650) (dx 9 only xp pro win 7 dx 11 will be faster newer cards

Frag · 11th April 2011, 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by issa2006

Depends on resolution playing and if you cpu can keep up(3.6ghz?)+

2x275 =295=480=560 ar 3.6ghz cpu + 1920x122 on my system.(q9650) (dx 9 only xp pro win 7 dx 11 will be faster newer cards

^^ quite a bit off... a 480 will smack a 560, and a 295 in modern games.

480 = 570 in some higher in some a little lower.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/309?vs=330

As far as 295 = 480, maybe in one or two games, but lack of dx11 really means not apples to apples and there are a heap where the 480 trounces the 295. (I have had both so can honestly say from my experience...)

barbz · 11th April 2011, 6:59 AM

Thankyou for the moral support and the pccasegear link. Card has been ordered.

Yes the monitor is a Dell u2711

should arrive this Wednesday

Paul

barbz · 14th April 2011, 7:01 AM

Yes, the upgrade was very worth it - BF2 blew me away!

Now, is there any point keeping the 275 in the system as a physx only controller?

Will it make any difference whatsoever? I doubt it but worth a shot.
Paul

Dodoman · 14th April 2011, 4:03 PM

It'll work as PhysX card - a bit overkill but it'll mean you can keep it (PhysX settings) on high all the time

. Test out Mafia 2 or Batman AA to see the difference.

t3h · 14th April 2011, 4:14 PM

Yes, very worth it. Went from a 275 to a 470.

Benchmarks here: http://gm.stackunderflow.com/blog/pi...ry.php?id=152:

GTX275 and E8500 at 3.3GHZ:
3dMark Vantage: 13480 3dMarks, 34158 CPU, 11216 GPU
3dMark 06: 14839 3DMarks, 6828 SM 2.0, 7545 SM 3.0, 2988 CPU
Fur(ry)Mark: 1920x1200 Fullscreen, 60000ms, MSAA off: 4037 points
X-Plane 9: Extreme res, 3x1680x1050 multihead, 15nm visibility: ~20fps

GTX470 and E8500 at 3518MHZ:
3dMark Vantage: 16790 3dmarks, 38769 CPU, 14122 GPU
3dMark 06: 16268 3dMarks, 6969 SM 2.0, 9103 SM 3.0, 3127 CPU
FurMark: same as above: 4177 points
X-Plane 9: ~25FPS, same settings, but I think it's actually achieving 15nm. This is without Nvidia eyefinity... i mean surround.
Reboot test: All 3 screens work, every time

Only annoyance is that I actually bought the GT220 because the fan in the card it's replacing is annoyingly loud, but MSI Afterburner allows you to adjust it down a bit.

Bertross · 14th April 2011, 4:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barbz

Yes, the upgrade was very worth it - BF2 blew me away!

Now, is there any point keeping the 275 in the system as a physx only controller?

Will it make any difference whatsoever? I doubt it but worth a shot.
Paul

The 275 wont do anything the 570 cant with Physx other then create heat and waste power. Tried it and its not worth it. Sell the 275 or keep it as a spare.

issa2006 · 14th April 2011, 9:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t3h

Yes, very worth it. Went from a 275 to a 470.

Benchmarks here: http://gm.stackunderflow.com/blog/pi...ry.php?id=152:

GTX275 and E8500 at 3.3GHZ:
3dMark Vantage: 13480 3dMarks, 34158 CPU, 11216 GPU
3dMark 06: 14839 3DMarks, 6828 SM 2.0, 7545 SM 3.0, 2988 CPU
Fur(ry)Mark: 1920x1200 Fullscreen, 60000ms, MSAA off: 4037 points
X-Plane 9: Extreme res, 3x1680x1050 multihead, 15nm visibility: ~20fps

GTX470 and E8500 at 3518MHZ:
3dMark Vantage: 16790 3dmarks, 38769 CPU, 14122 GPU
3dMark 06: 16268 3dMarks, 6969 SM 2.0, 9103 SM 3.0, 3127 CPU
FurMark: same as above: 4177 points
X-Plane 9: ~25FPS, same settings, but I think it's actually achieving 15nm. This is without Nvidia eyefinity... i mean surround.
Reboot test: All 3 screens work, every time

Only annoyance is that I actually bought the GT220 because the fan in the card it's replacing is annoyingly loud, but MSI Afterburner allows you to adjust it down a bit.

YOU NEED TO RUN CPU AT 3.6 (SWEET SPOT) TO GET THE BEST OUT BTH CARDS.. + AND CPU NOT SAME SPEED.. RRESULTS INVALID.. AS CPU HOLDING BACK GRAPH CARD..

10th April 2011, 12:54 PM	#1
barbz Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 223	GXT 275 -> GTX 570 - Worth it? Hi all My gtx 277 is the oldest part in my machine and im wondering if its worth upgrading to a 570 to go with the 27" monitor arriving this week. Looking at the Inno3d gtx 570 for ~$380. Thoughts? Options/Ideas? Paul

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mevereyn Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 907	Totally pwns the 275. Another option would be the HD6970, for basically the same money. Better performance overall, but of course it depends on the extra features you might want, plus maybe brand loyalty or preference. Just a thought, though.

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issa2006 Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: AUSTRALIA (ADL) Posts: 2,484	Depends on resolution playing and if you cpu can keep up(3.6ghz?)+ 2x275 =295=480=560 ar 3.6ghz cpu + 1920x122 on my system.(q9650) (dx 9 only xp pro win 7 dx 11 will be faster newer cards __________________ 2700k+Fatal1ty Z68 Professional Gen3/i-ram 4g -32g ddr3 1600/2xssd in raid 0(sam 120g M-830)+ hdds+sound card+g19/g9x etc....27" 120 +3d samsung +7" touch screen etc...(gig oc 670 x2 sli)1250psu evermax+water cooling (oc4.8)ghz etc-win7 64bit +eboostr+supercache 5(3600+mb/sec hdd access)

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barbz Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 223	Thankyou for the moral support and the pccasegear link. Card has been ordered. Yes the monitor is a Dell u2711 should arrive this Wednesday Paul

14th April 2011, 7:01 AM	#11
barbz Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 223	Yes, the upgrade was very worth it - BF2 blew me away! Now, is there any point keeping the 275 in the system as a physx only controller? Will it make any difference whatsoever? I doubt it but worth a shot. Paul

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t3h Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Adelaide Posts: 228	Yes, very worth it. Went from a 275 to a 470. Benchmarks here: http://gm.stackunderflow.com/blog/pi...ry.php?id=152: GTX275 and E8500 at 3.3GHZ: 3dMark Vantage: 13480 3dMarks, 34158 CPU, 11216 GPU 3dMark 06: 14839 3DMarks, 6828 SM 2.0, 7545 SM 3.0, 2988 CPU Fur(ry)Mark: 1920x1200 Fullscreen, 60000ms, MSAA off: 4037 points X-Plane 9: Extreme res, 3x1680x1050 multihead, 15nm visibility: ~20fps GTX470 and E8500 at 3518MHZ: 3dMark Vantage: 16790 3dmarks, 38769 CPU, 14122 GPU 3dMark 06: 16268 3dMarks, 6969 SM 2.0, 9103 SM 3.0, 3127 CPU FurMark: same as above: 4177 points X-Plane 9: ~25FPS, same settings, but I think it's actually achieving 15nm. This is without Nvidia eyefinity... i mean surround. Reboot test: All 3 screens work, every time Only annoyance is that I actually bought the GT220 because the fan in the card it's replacing is annoyingly loud, but MSI Afterburner allows you to adjust it down a bit. __________________ MBP 15"/750GB 7200RPM HDD/64GB G.Skill Falcon2 SSD/8GB DDR3 RAM/512MB GT330M/2.66 i7/1680x1050 hires matte Asus P5Q-Pro/E8500/GTX275/Antec EarthWatts 500/many HDDs/4GB 1066 RAM/G5 case