The 'Raspberry Pi' thread - Page 3

BlueRaven · 30th August 2011, 4:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t3h

Wine will still likely be able to work if you use qemu-system to emulate x86 on top of the ARM device, however this approach will likely be way too slow for games.

As far as "other x86 software" goes, nearly all Linux stuff is opensource and can simply use an ARM compiled version.

Yeah, I believe there was some discussion in their forums about emulating x86 over top of whatever flavour of Linux ends up in the producton version, with caveats regarding speed as you mentioned.

It's sounds like it will be a pretty flexible device... find any open source software that can be compiled for ARM and you can run it, with no restrictions or limitations beyond system resources. Which I guess is the point of open source, so duh...

In case it's not already blindingly obvious, I have little experience with anything other than x86 architectures, so I'm learning as I go here.

I'd love to know how they got Quake 3 running? Recompiled/reverse engineered or emulated? Any thoughts?

elvis · 30th August 2011, 5:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by <BlueRaven>

I'd love to know how they got Quake 3 running? Recompiled/reverse engineered or emulated? Any thoughts?

Carmack releases his game engine code under the GPL on a regular basis (from memory it's 3 or so engines behind whatever is current).

Quake 3 got GPLed quite some time ago. I'd guess there was already an arm port floating around.

BlueRaven · 30th August 2011, 5:37 PM

Just got my answer by reading through the comment thread under the vid.

Yep, the engine is open source, but they compiled the ARM version themelves.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Dear raspberrypi.org,

Please to be shipping a copy of your ARM-compiled Quake3 with my Pi when I buy it.

Thanks be to you,
A gamer who likes to mess around with things he doesn't fully understand.

danstheman · 30th August 2011, 8:25 PM

Ive been following this project for a while now and while we think of these as toys they are design with the intention of providing easy access to computers for developing countries.

On release you will be able to "buy one, donate one" or alternatively buy one. This is a really good idea!

The main reason for the composite out is that the hdmi socket is a lot less prevalent in the market for these.

USB is host mode only you cannot power the board from it as someone has stated.

Using older chips is part of the cost cutting measured involved. I would love to see networks of these in schools particularly with the ethernet over power which they are planning on!

This is certainly and awesome quest these people are on. I will defiantly be buying/donating a couple.

BlueRaven · 30th August 2011, 8:55 PM

Totally agree, they have hit the nail on the head in terms of upfront cost, compatability, and potential to reach a very wide group of students who would otherwise not have access to anything this clever.

I do not mean to belittle the aims of the project by suggesting that this is more a toy than an educational tool; simply that for those of us lucky enough to not 'need' it, it provides lots of interesting opportunities.

I reckon I'll be taking part in the 'buy one, give one' scheme too. Why wouldn't we?

dualmassager · 3rd September 2011, 2:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by foxmulder881

Any images of this? I can't view the video as I don't use Flash anymore.

http://www.raspberrypi.org/?p=78

Has some pics of the alpha board.

Would love to grab a few of these as media players. Especially for old TVs without HDMI or VGA. Good 'ol composite video.

SLATYE · 3rd September 2011, 2:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s3kemo

I'd say I found a nice little web server but these are not released yet

Anyone know of anything similar that's currently available for < $100? Needs to run a flavour of linux... can't be too gutless, php and mysql are on the cards.

The Roku system I mentioned above. Similar hardware, nice case, and just under $100.

Alternatively the original Beagle board is now $125, and it's got a significantly more powerful ARM Cortex A8.

BlueRaven · 3rd September 2011, 3:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SLATYE

The Roku system I mentioned above. Similar hardware, nice case, and just under $100.

Alternatively the original Beagle board is now $125, and it's got a significantly more powerful ARM Cortex A8.

The Roku can be used as a web server/general linux box? I got the impression it was a dedicated media player? Is there much wizardry required to get it doing other things?

gregpolk · 3rd September 2011, 3:50 PM

Wonder if it'll run Windows 8.

SLATYE · 3rd September 2011, 4:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by <BlueRaven>

The Roku can be used as a web server/general linux box? I got the impression it was a dedicated media player? Is there much wizardry required to get it doing other things?

Ah, my mistake. I thought that people had got standard Linux distributions running on it, but I was wrong.

As alternatives, there's the SheevaPlug and GuruPlug. No good for video, but find as a webserver.

Oblong Cheese · 3rd September 2011, 4:26 PM

BlueRaven · 3rd September 2011, 4:48 PM

+189,714

stmok · 3rd September 2011, 5:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregpolk

Wonder if it'll run Windows 8.

Doubt it...

Last I checked, you'll need at least a ARM Cortex series processor. (I could be wrong, but I do recall it was certain processors based on Cortex A8 and the majority of A9 based ones.)

Wako · 3rd January 2012, 7:57 AM

Been following this since its inspection.

And hopefully they will be released before I am due to come home from the UK

XBMC is currently in the works.

Phosphor94 · 4th January 2012, 11:48 AM

My plans include:
Raspberry Pi Model B -$35
A-RAM Class 10 SD Card 32GB -$39
AOC e2795Vh 27in Widescreen LED Monitor -$289 -For it's USB hub to power the RasPi
Logitech K400 Wireless Touch Keyboard -I already have it and it's unused

Find a location to put the monitor in my room, double sided tape the RasPi to the back of the monitor, neatly organised cables.

Learn some coding and play around with a lot of different GNU/Linux and BSD distros such as Arch Linux with the basics... Failing that a HTPC or some form of a server.

30th August 2011, 5:37 PM	#33
BlueRaven Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Sydney 2068 Posts: 2,068	Just got my answer by reading through the comment thread under the vid. Yep, the engine is open source, but they compiled the ARM version themelves. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dear raspberrypi.org, Please to be shipping a copy of your ARM-compiled Quake3 with my Pi when I buy it. Thanks be to you, A gamer who likes to mess around with things he doesn't fully understand. __________________ When you're in over your head, the first thing to do is close your mouth. - Anonymous GOOD TRADES WITH: chrispychipS, s3kemo, Graham.Abbott, TerminalVeloCD, dayvud7, gnasher666, Bomber01, Echo Man, Mikio, MorgzMods, Guts, RoryK, Benno1988, Spirit76, Creekin, kazen, Lothar_Wolf, zzgundam, Nobita88 Last edited by BlueRaven; 30th August 2011 at 5:42 PM.

30th August 2011, 8:55 PM	#35
BlueRaven Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Sydney 2068 Posts: 2,068	Totally agree, they have hit the nail on the head in terms of upfront cost, compatability, and potential to reach a very wide group of students who would otherwise not have access to anything this clever. I do not mean to belittle the aims of the project by suggesting that this is more a toy than an educational tool; simply that for those of us lucky enough to not 'need' it, it provides lots of interesting opportunities. I reckon I'll be taking part in the 'buy one, give one' scheme too. Why wouldn't we? __________________ When you're in over your head, the first thing to do is close your mouth. - Anonymous GOOD TRADES WITH: chrispychipS, s3kemo, Graham.Abbott, TerminalVeloCD, dayvud7, gnasher666, Bomber01, Echo Man, Mikio, MorgzMods, Guts, RoryK, Benno1988, Spirit76, Creekin, kazen, Lothar_Wolf, zzgundam, Nobita88 Last edited by BlueRaven; 30th August 2011 at 8:57 PM.

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3rd September 2011, 4:48 PM	#42
BlueRaven Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Sydney 2068 Posts: 2,068	+189,714 __________________ When you're in over your head, the first thing to do is close your mouth. - Anonymous GOOD TRADES WITH: chrispychipS, s3kemo, Graham.Abbott, TerminalVeloCD, dayvud7, gnasher666, Bomber01, Echo Man, Mikio, MorgzMods, Guts, RoryK, Benno1988, Spirit76, Creekin, kazen, Lothar_Wolf, zzgundam, Nobita88

3rd January 2012, 7:57 AM	#44
Wako Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 472	Been following this since its inspection. And hopefully they will be released before I am due to come home from the UK XBMC is currently in the works. __________________ CHIPS Last edited by Wako; 5th January 2012 at 12:11 PM.

30th August 2011, 8:25 PM	#34
danstheman Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Sydney Posts: 192	Ive been following this project for a while now and while we think of these as toys they are design with the intention of providing easy access to computers for developing countries. On release you will be able to "buy one, donate one" or alternatively buy one. This is a really good idea! The main reason for the composite out is that the hdmi socket is a lot less prevalent in the market for these. USB is host mode only you cannot power the board from it as someone has stated. Using older chips is part of the cost cutting measured involved. I would love to see networks of these in schools particularly with the ethernet over power which they are planning on! This is certainly and awesome quest these people are on. I will defiantly be buying/donating a couple.

3rd September 2011, 3:50 PM	#39
gregpolk Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,325	Wonder if it'll run Windows 8.

4th January 2012, 11:48 AM	#45
Phosphor94 Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Melbourne Posts: 196	My plans include: Raspberry Pi Model B -$35 A-RAM Class 10 SD Card 32GB -$39 AOC e2795Vh 27in Widescreen LED Monitor -$289 -For it's USB hub to power the RasPi Logitech K400 Wireless Touch Keyboard -I already have it and it's unused Find a location to put the monitor in my room, double sided tape the RasPi to the back of the monitor, neatly organised cables. Learn some coding and play around with a lot of different GNU/Linux and BSD distros such as Arch Linux with the basics... Failing that a HTPC or some form of a server.