HP ProLiant MicroServer Owners Club! (Attempting to sell here will result in bans) - Page 144

qwertylesh · 18th July 2011, 10:45 AM

I personally could see using mine as a desktop.
I basically remote desktop into mine (w7x64 ult + 4gb ram) and multitask on that.

theyre powerful enough to use the net on and watch 720 for sure

i think you should treat it as the same peformance you would expect out of a laptop - will do most things but intensive things will cause slowdowns.

personally, I just couldnt part with my desktop, I havent stopped gaming yet, and want everything fast at my fingertips regardless of power consumption

boot time is quite good, it will be great with your ssd.

youll need hdmi on your screen, or just get a cheapy usb sound thingy if you dont use the graphics card for sound.

dont expect to get much for your c2d, its not worth much these days.

i'd stick to the psu thats supplied, the external itx types are good for some people but you probably will need the wattage the stock offers.

look into the pwm fan mod if you think your unit is really loud and look into the bios hack for ahci on your odd port

mikkas · 18th July 2011, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by qwertylesh

look into the pwm fan mod if you think your unit is really loud and look into the bios hack for ahci on your odd port

Thanks mate! I might get rid of the Dell 24" with the C2D (So it's more of a Packaged deal/ sell it on Gumtree to a backpacker or something).. get a new 23"/24" and look into a 5450 with a DVI port.

I -think- the chip should be about the same as my current dual core intel 6600, yeah?
PS, "odd port" mod?

qwertylesh · 18th July 2011, 11:01 AM

i think the processor is a little weaker then an e6600, it has some benefits, some newer features but isnt anything real special either.

consider its equivilant to about the peformance of a mobile core i5

the odd port bios hack is if you want to unlock the full speed of the optical sata port, apparently the stock bios limits it to sata 1 rates or something and if you plan on keeping the 4 bay drives free for storage and use the ssd on the odd port youd want to unlock the speed.

I'd personally do the above and just use an external odd.

ps; you have the esata port available too so you could have the ssd and burner internally installed with a cable routing to the esata port for the ssd and you would still keep the 4 disk sata bay free for big platter drives

you may want to use an internal buner though, and then there would be no real need to do the hack unless you just want to do it for the fun of it

as for your selling your system, i cant really comment on that much. I personally hate selling hardware, If it was mine I would look into underclocking it and using it as a media front end, but thats me for you.

break · 18th July 2011, 12:15 PM

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Now a little birdy tells me that I can buy a 5450 with HDMI, run HDMI, and it will have sound...

That is correct, I'm using a Gigabyte ATi 5450 for it's HDMI out, and using that for sound/video through to my TV (my Microserver is being used as a HTPC).

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What is the boot time like on the HP? I hear it's not bad.

Pretty slow under Windows 7 with 5gb of RAM and the OS installed on the supplied 250gb SATA drive.

My presonal opinion is that it will be fine for a desktop, but you'll find the CPU sitting pretty high when you browse using Firefox with more than 2-3 tabs open.

If you want to reduce your power consumption and use it for basic desktop stuff, I'd recommend a laptop + a desktop dock instead. That way you'll get far more processing power, with a similar power consumption.

mikkas · 18th July 2011, 5:09 PM

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Originally Posted by break

That is correct, I'm using a Gigabyte ATi 5450 for it's HDMI out, and using that for sound/video through to my TV (my Microserver is being used as a HTPC).

Pretty slow under Windows 7 with 5gb of RAM and the OS installed on the supplied 250gb SATA drive.

My presonal opinion is that it will be fine for a desktop, but you'll find the CPU sitting pretty high when you browse using Firefox with more than 2-3 tabs open.

If you want to reduce your power consumption and use it for basic desktop stuff, I'd recommend a laptop + a desktop dock instead. That way you'll get far more processing power, with a similar power consumption.

Well it seems like I'm the first to try to use it as a PC PC (lols), So I'll let you all know how it goes with a SSD and the stock Sata taken out.

Would a laptop + dock really use less wattage than a HP? I guess about the same... not sure. The real winner here is HP in terms of initial cost, at least for me.

How do you find the Gigabyte.. is she fanless?

funkymonkey · 18th July 2011, 5:14 PM

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Would a laptop + dock really use less wattage than a HP?

wouldn't a ye olde Intel Centrino 2 laptop be about the same performance and power draw as the microserver?

mikkas · 18th July 2011, 5:16 PM

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wouldn't a ye olde Intel Centrino 2 laptop be about the same performance and power draw as the microserver?

Bitches dont wanna see a netbook in my room, they wanna see a NAS. Panty remover y'all.

Stanza · 18th July 2011, 5:17 PM

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wouldn't a ye olde Intel Centrino 2 laptop be about the same performance and power draw as the microserver?

Quite possibly, and not half as expandable

Leave the boy be... Windows 7 runs fine on these.. and with a decent graphics card and a swap of the HDD for something better (which he has) all he needs is sound (which has has sorted).

He has stated what he wants the box to be capable of... and whith the options he has selected I believe it should handle those task fine.

Worse come to worse... he can offload it for what he paid for it if it doesn't work out.

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stumo · 18th July 2011, 5:29 PM

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wouldn't a ye olde Intel Centrino 2 laptop be about the same performance and power draw as the microserver?

It depends, I've got a centrino 2 laptop here and a microserver. The laptop draws about 30W idle, the microserver is 13W idle (with picoPSU and HDDs spun down).

But then the laptop is a core2quad extreme @3.4GHz which I can get drawing 130W just by CPU usage alone (GPU is fx2700m so add probably 60W to that if stressing both at the same time).

I believe the microserver CPU is equivalent to an old pentium D 3GHz, or just a tad better than a very low speed/spec core2duo, so its pretty slow by comparison, but should be fine for your lightweight usage. Good thing about the laptop though is the built in UPS functionality.

rugger · 18th July 2011, 7:53 PM

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Originally Posted by qwertylesh

i think the processor is a little weaker then an e6600, it has some benefits, some newer features but isnt anything real special either.

The processor is whole LOT weaker then the e6600. Maybe half the speed if you are lucky.

HUMMER · 18th July 2011, 8:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mikkas

Bitches dont wanna see a netbook in my room, they wanna see a NAS. Panty remover y'all.

never thought of it that way. i guess my 3 would really pull the bitches.

Asteroid · 18th July 2011, 8:39 PM

I am going down this route. The plan is a bit more ram, some sort of graphics card (ideally with s-video) and a China special dac (hopefully TDA1543). Running W7 and media centre. I'm more after streaming audio than video. Long shot, are there any vid cards with S/PDIF out?

It's replacing an early A64+Via system, which coped just fine with normal usage (struggled a bit decoding DVB-T HD channels but it did it). BTW all you lot complaining about processing power- my daily is an N450 netbook. If that doesn't put a few things into perspective nothing will.

stumo · 18th July 2011, 10:02 PM

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Long shot, are there any vid cards with S/PDIF out?

HDMI contains S/PDIF. You can get a splitter which will split out S/PDIF (and analogue audio as well) from the HDMI port, and at the same time keep the HDMI (still with full audio) going to the TV etc.

I got one for like 50 bux off eBay last year, seems to be pretty good. 5 HDMI into 1 splitter, with S/PDIF (both toslink and coax).

khing · 18th July 2011, 10:10 PM

Hi everyone.

I have one of this servers runnign FreeNAS 8.0, ZFS, RAID-Z sharing via CIFS.

I'm able to write to the NAS over the network at 60 MB/s but only able to read at around 6 MB/s. I'm quite perplexed by this as I'm sure generally speaking read speeds should be faster than write.

Does anyone have any ideas on where I can start to look for a fix? Google seems rather unhelpful.

ThunderbirdMoz · 18th July 2011, 10:33 PM

After many many tens of hours I now have 2 microservers set up in Linux. Ones running freenas and others running xbmc. Both customized to my liking, with data copied across, shares etc. It got me frustrated and feeling like giving up many times but damn, I know how to use Linux a whole lot more. haha

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Asteroid Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lapping Freo Posts: 2,233	I am going down this route. The plan is a bit more ram, some sort of graphics card (ideally with s-video) and a China special dac (hopefully TDA1543). Running W7 and media centre. I'm more after streaming audio than video. Long shot, are there any vid cards with S/PDIF out? It's replacing an early A64+Via system, which coped just fine with normal usage (struggled a bit decoding DVB-T HD channels but it did it). BTW all you lot complaining about processing power- my daily is an N450 netbook. If that doesn't put a few things into perspective nothing will. __________________ The boxen: A8-3870/ F1A75-V Pro/ 8GB \| A64 3000+/ K8V-X/ 1,25GB \| X230 ThinkPad Shtbox rally 2013 - The Mining Magnets!

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khing Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 142	Hi everyone. I have one of this servers runnign FreeNAS 8.0, ZFS, RAID-Z sharing via CIFS. I'm able to write to the NAS over the network at 60 MB/s but only able to read at around 6 MB/s. I'm quite perplexed by this as I'm sure generally speaking read speeds should be faster than write. Does anyone have any ideas on where I can start to look for a fix? Google seems rather unhelpful. __________________ GA-P35-DS3, Core 2 Extreme QX9650@3.6, 8GB PC6400, Asus Geforce GTX660ti, Fractal R3, Windows 7 Pro x64

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ThunderbirdMoz Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wynnum Posts: 989	After many many tens of hours I now have 2 microservers set up in Linux. Ones running freenas and others running xbmc. Both customized to my liking, with data copied across, shares etc. It got me frustrated and feeling like giving up many times but damn, I know how to use Linux a whole lot more. haha