AMD FX-Series (Bulldozer) & 990FX Chipset (AM3+) Discussion - Page 96

mugginz · 29th September 2011, 3:55 PM

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Originally Posted by snappy1

eight will be enough

But will they fill our lives with love

(really old joke)

Danske · 29th September 2011, 4:13 PM

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Originally Posted by snappy1

They will be faster than Bloomfield i7's and have a far higher overclock ceiling in a far cheaper overall package, and battlefield loves cores doesn't it? eight will be enough

Excellent! Now it just needs to be out before the 27th! haha.

NNNG · 29th September 2011, 4:21 PM

If AMD is paying GF per working die, wouldn't GF just increase the cost per working die if yields were bad?

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Good find Stmok . Explains why AMD have been quiet about a release date, because they dont know when it will be released due to yield issues.

JF-AMD was saying on another forum they already have a set date for Bulldozer. Then again, he's a server guy.

Nikon223 · 29th September 2011, 4:34 PM

The bad yields will only get better with time.

Gillyske · 29th September 2011, 4:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Nikon223

The bad yields will only get better with time.

the problem is the time its taking....

if we are just going to be pointing out the obvious.

Nikon223 · 29th September 2011, 5:13 PM

Yeah well people like your self need to get over it and accept it's going to take time. I want BD to be released as much as the next guy but bringing up that yields this and yields that will not make the release date any closer.

itsmydamnation · 29th September 2011, 5:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghost of Lauda

Your yield percentage also determines whether the process is rubbish or not.

hardly, your ability to control parameters and figure out whats causing the bad yield have far more to do with it, that's why yields improve over time not because they go and change the process, thats why there's things like expected yield curves.

also if you believe charlie, he has been say for months that yield are llano specific issue and bulldozer and trinity yields have been far better. you will also notice that the release from AMD yeilds are directly link to Llano and no other chip.

dirtyd · 29th September 2011, 6:55 PM

There's also the off chance that it's just bullshit put out by AMD to cover their arse. Could be a million different things; the only thing that matters is that they haven't got enough chips to meet demand and it's a) costing them lost sales and b) disappointing to us because we want a new arch to muck around with.

stmok · 29th September 2011, 9:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Danske

What's the chances of this coming out before BF3? (October 27th).

NDA lifts in mid-October...Being available in a hard launch? Or paper launch? Don't know.

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Oh and being better than the i7s.

...Its a "catch-up" chip to compete with Intel's upper-end of their LGA1155 line.

Being 1st generation of a new architecture, I don't expect miracles. It'll offer overall parity in a specific market. Just not total domination as AMD fans hoped.

Danske · 29th September 2011, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by stmok

NDA lifts in mid-October...Being available in a hard launch? Or paper launch? Don't know.

...Its a "catch-up" chip to compete with Intel's upper-end of their LGA1155 line.

Being 1st generation of a new architecture, I don't expect miracles. It'll offer overall parity in a specific market. Just not total domination as AMD fans hoped.

Oh ok cheers.

So the chances of me getting my grubby hands on one in say... October, is unlikely, and more a end of nov / early dec?

mugginz · 29th September 2011, 11:13 PM

So if the tray price for FX-8150 is US$245, what's its retail box price likely to be I wonder. I guess if you want to use AMD's heatsink and get the full retail warranty that's what you'll wanna buy.

machete · 30th September 2011, 6:27 AM

I'm guessing, but since we usually get a little shafted with hardware here in Aus I would expect the top FX CPU to be just under $300 on launch.

stmok · 30th September 2011, 6:54 AM

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So the chances of me getting my grubby hands on one in say... October, is unlikely, and more a end of nov / early dec?

I suspect so. OEMs and high-return customers like Cray supercomputing solutions are first. "Tier 1" countries like Japan, USA, etc get priority; as their market is larger. We'll probably get limited quantities to start off with. Supply will increase over the coming months.

If its a paper launch, you'll have more than a month to digest all those review articles.

.Radiant · 30th September 2011, 8:38 AM

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Originally Posted by machete

I'm guessing, but since we usually get a little shafted with hardware here in Aus I would expect the top FX CPU to be just under $300 on launch.

Wouldn't expect it to be that much more.

1100t in the states (newegg) is 189, you can get it for about $10 more here

the 2600k is 315 on newegg, same price here

Something newer (and probably more relevant in terms of pricing) like the A8-3850 is $140 on newegg and can actually be had for 135 here

machete · 30th September 2011, 9:19 AM

Yes but you forget the new tech tax that retailers will put on it.

29th September 2011, 4:34 PM	#1429
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29th September 2011, 6:55 PM	#1433
dirtyd Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: 127.0.0.1 Posts: 3,682	There's also the off chance that it's just bullshit put out by AMD to cover their arse. Could be a million different things; the only thing that matters is that they haven't got enough chips to meet demand and it's a) costing them lost sales and b) disappointing to us because we want a new arch to muck around with. __________________ "It is worthy of remark that a belief constantly inculcated during the early years of life, whilst the brain is impressible, appears to acquire almost the nature of an instinct; and the very essence of an instinct is that it is followed independently of reason." - Charles Darwin \| trustworthy traders

29th September 2011, 11:13 PM	#1436
mugginz Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Unitaria, Ubuntonia Posts: 539	So if the tray price for FX-8150 is US$245, what's its retail box price likely to be I wonder. I guess if you want to use AMD's heatsink and get the full retail warranty that's what you'll wanna buy.

30th September 2011, 6:27 AM	#1437
machete (Banned or Deleted) Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Melbourne FTMFW! Posts: 497	I'm guessing, but since we usually get a little shafted with hardware here in Aus I would expect the top FX CPU to be just under $300 on launch.

30th September 2011, 9:19 AM	#1440
machete (Banned or Deleted) Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Melbourne FTMFW! Posts: 497	Yes but you forget the new tech tax that retailers will put on it.