Ubuntu 12.04 LTS ‘Precise Pangolin’ discussion thread - Page 5

foxmulder881 · 7th March 2012, 6:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Hamal

There's a science to this stuff, and if linux doesn't innovate the way Apple is (especially with iOs) and Microsoft is (Metro) then linux will become irrelevant.

This statement is laughable.

IKT · 7th March 2012, 6:58 PM

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Originally Posted by foxmulder881

This statement is laughable.

Because linux on the desktop is irrelevant?

Hamal · 7th March 2012, 9:53 PM

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Originally Posted by foxmulder881

This statement is laughable.

Sorry, I can't pretend to not be a bit miffed at this statement. Not the fact that you disagree, but that you fail to actually say anything of a non-mocking substance at all.

Would you care to elaborate?

foxmulder881 · 7th March 2012, 10:01 PM

Because you suggested that Apple and Microsoft have innovated the desktop and Linux has not. Am I right in thinking that is what you were saying?

Hamal · 7th March 2012, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by foxmulder881

Because you suggested that Apple and Microsoft have innovated the desktop and Linux has not. Am I right in thinking that is what you were saying?

No, I'm saying that Apple and Microsoft are innovating their desktop user experiences and that "linux" must do the same to remain relevant*.

EDIT: Disclaimer: Relevant to the end user.

foxmulder881 · 7th March 2012, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Hamal

No, I'm saying that Apple and Microsoft are innovating their desktop user experiences and that "linux" must do the same to remain relevant.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's exactly what they're doing. Especially Ubuntu. And whether the community approve of the innovative changes or not, innovation is innovation.

Hamal · 7th March 2012, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by foxmulder881

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's exactly what they're doing. Especially Ubuntu. And whether the community approve of the innovative changes or not, innovation is innovation.

I think if you re-read the comment I made in response to IKT's post, you'll see that this is exactly what I'm saying too.

Enough of the thread derail, more of the pangolin.

foxmulder881 · 8th March 2012, 3:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Hamal

I think if you re-read the comment I made in response to IKT's post, you'll see that this is exactly what I'm saying too.

Enough of the thread derail, more of the pangolin.

I wouldn't have a clue what IKT said. I never see his/her posts and they're on my ignore list. And I have re-read the post and still can't make sense of the way you originally worded it. But anyway, it's petty for me to pick like that. So yeah, move on...

tr3nton · 9th March 2012, 5:53 AM

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/p...-ubuntu-12-04/

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“As part of our work to improve the multi-monitor experience, we are looking into whether users would prefer to have a Launcher on every screen, or only on one screen.”

To help the Design Team gather user feedback on which of the two suggested approaches users prefer to see as default we’ve prepped two questions for you to answer. Your votes will help the team in making their decision on whether to include multi-monitor launchers or not.

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So it’s over to you; you have the chance to help shape Ubuntu 12.04 by answering the two questions below.

Q1: Do you use Multi-Monitors in Ubuntu?
Q2: Would You Prefer a Launcher on All Screens, or Just One?

I prefer one screen only.

RnR · 9th March 2012, 7:58 AM

Unity (2d) only have 1 launcher. 3d has 1 on every screen, which is annoying when both are in portrait orientation.

IKT · 13th March 2012, 3:16 AM

Another survey:

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/h...u-user-survey/

elvis · 13th March 2012, 7:40 AM

Well I'm digging Pangolin for the stability and speed so far. Unity still bugs me, although I'm keen to really give it a good test around the track with the new keyboard-centric features on offer.

The UI is probably the least of my concern. All the major desktops are on offer in the repos. If Unity ends up pissing me off too much, I'll probably give Cinnamon a go for a while. My old clunker laptop at home will most likely end up with Lubuntu (LXDE) simply to be usable at all.

mugginz · 13th March 2012, 3:04 PM

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Originally Posted by elvis

Well I'm digging Pangolin for the stability and speed so far. Unity still bugs me,....

Thankfully they continue to chip away at it, improving it with each release.

What do you think of the new reveal behavior when you enable panel auto hide. I like that quickly brushing against the side of the screen with the mouse doesn't reveal the panel now and you can choose how sensitive it is. Especially when using a touch pad this would be one of the most noticeable improvements with Unity.

New bits of polish continue to pop up here and there which is great but the beta still isn't perfectly stable (which is to be expected) so personally I wouldn't recommend it for a daily driver for just anyone at the moment.

I know that for a lot of people Unity isn't really their bag but it seems clear to me that it's on a continual road to improvement and usability. I wouldn't exactly be enthusiastic to go back to a traditional Gnome 2 style desktop if I didn't have to these days. As Unity improves, any likelihood of me switching back to a Gnome2 or a KDE desktop diminishes greatly.

elvis · 13th March 2012, 4:09 PM

I personally loathe KDE. I think it's been little more than a Microsoft Windows look-and-feel copy for some time now. Entirely personal preference of course - I know quite a few refugees who have jumped gleefully on KDE because it offers a familiar way of doing things for them.

Ultimately the UI probably matters little to me. The convenience of the virtual file system layer is nice (seamless use of SMB/CIFS, SSH/SFTP as well as simple mounting of remote media) is all nice, but it's fairly standard now. I still spend 80% of my day in a terminal window, and the other 20% in a browser. So my posts about Unity are probably unfairly weighted to how they actually affect my use of the system.

At this point, 12.04 is shaping up to be a good release, and being an LTS (as well as the desktop packages now also falling under 5 year support), it's likely I will be jumping on this release and sticking with it for quite some time.

ir0nhide · 13th March 2012, 8:50 PM

I can't wait for 12.04... oh hang on I just dig any release that's LTS

13th March 2012, 7:40 AM	#72
elvis Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Brisbane Posts: 20,308	Well I'm digging Pangolin for the stability and speed so far. Unity still bugs me, although I'm keen to really give it a good test around the track with the new keyboard-centric features on offer. The UI is probably the least of my concern. All the major desktops are on offer in the repos. If Unity ends up pissing me off too much, I'll probably give Cinnamon a go for a while. My old clunker laptop at home will most likely end up with Lubuntu (LXDE) simply to be usable at all. __________________ Child's Play Charity

13th March 2012, 4:09 PM	#74
elvis Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Brisbane Posts: 20,308	I personally loathe KDE. I think it's been little more than a Microsoft Windows look-and-feel copy for some time now. Entirely personal preference of course - I know quite a few refugees who have jumped gleefully on KDE because it offers a familiar way of doing things for them. Ultimately the UI probably matters little to me. The convenience of the virtual file system layer is nice (seamless use of SMB/CIFS, SSH/SFTP as well as simple mounting of remote media) is all nice, but it's fairly standard now. I still spend 80% of my day in a terminal window, and the other 20% in a browser. So my posts about Unity are probably unfairly weighted to how they actually affect my use of the system. At this point, 12.04 is shaping up to be a good release, and being an LTS (as well as the desktop packages now also falling under 5 year support), it's likely I will be jumping on this release and sticking with it for quite some time. __________________ Child's Play Charity

7th March 2012, 10:01 PM	#64
foxmulder881 Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Gold Coast, QLD OS:R.Hat Posts: 5,845	Because you suggested that Apple and Microsoft have innovated the desktop and Linux has not. Am I right in thinking that is what you were saying?

9th March 2012, 7:58 AM	#70
RnR Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Brisbane Posts: 5,979	Unity (2d) only have 1 launcher. 3d has 1 on every screen, which is annoying when both are in portrait orientation.