AMD Not Competing with Intel Anymore, Goes Mobile

[Bertross]

Originally Posted by OpenSystem

Cant wait to water cool my quad core phone!

Yeah, lets try our x360s 1st.

[mitsimonsta]

Originally Posted by Mitch01

How does one easily cool a quad core phone?

In a day where iPhones are exploding from heat, I'd hate to think how much heat would be on one of those phones.

Battery life would be terrible too!

You can expect that the quad-core ARM-based phone CPUs to not run at anything like 1.2Ghz initially. Again, it is all about parallelism and being able to run multiple apps/tasks smoothly. Rather than run 20 threads on 2 cores, better to run 20 threads on 4 cores.

And battery life will not be an issue. If anything it will get better as the newer ARM devices get better power management. There is quite a bit left in the architecture for improvement - many of the things that Intel has learnt over 30 years is starting to be applied into ARM designs.

The latest iPhone 'explosion' looked like a battery issue to me rather than a CPU burning out.

Originally Posted by stmok

AMD have realised the long term threat to their existence isn't Intel any more. Its ARM-based providers like Nvidia, Qualcomm, Texas Instruments, etc.

I think stmok is bang on the money here - AMD needs to start bringing ARM architecture into the fray. I'd love to see a 16-core ARM chip destined for the desktop market. For most home and business users, a low-powered ARM box on Win8 will be the way forward. Apple will likely move at least the MacBook Air to their own flavour of ARM architecture in the next 24 months - they already have the A4/A5 chips which are pretty much a fairly generic ARM design. Over the next 2-3 years they will really start to make some reall gains on these chips for the workloads required.

Your average desktop in the future will look like an EeePC. Many cores, plenty of RAM, SSD, network storage. And moving to this will force software developers to multithread their apps properly to get any performance out of them since the CPU cores will be much less capable than they are today.

[OpenSystem]

Originally Posted by Bertross

Yeah, lets try our x360s 1st.

Cant wait to pull this out to make a phone call!

[Joehax]

Desktops will soon become a think of the past.

Intel will follow suit eventually too.

You heard it here first.

[dr_deathy]

just because it quadcore doesnt mean its hot. that only applies to X86!

i like how doomsayers always jump the gun with doom and gloom even tho desktops are not the main market anymore, why focus on the smaller market?

ask how the hummer is going.

[OpenSystem]

Originally Posted by dr_deathy

just because it quadcore doesnt mean its hot. that only applies to X86!

What if I prime 95 it?

[Linkin]

Scaremongering bullshit.

If they're only doing mobile then why are they still producing new chipsets? See 1090FX.

You all fell for it.

[OpenSystem]

Originally Posted by Linkin

If they're only doing mobile then why are they still producing new chipsets? See 1090FX.

To fix bulldozer, save face

[sanjay]

Originally Posted by Linkin

Scaremongering bullshit.

If they're only doing mobile then why are they still producing new chipsets? See 1090FX.

You all fell for it.

thats what theyre calling their next chipset? talk about confusing.

phenom II X6 1090, FX-****, 1090FX chipset...mush them all together

[dmandn]

Originally Posted by Linkin

Scaremongering bullshit.

If they're only doing mobile then why are they still producing new chipsets? See 1090FX.

You all fell for it.

Exactly, if it were true there would be articles all over the place.

[akashra]

What we really need is a paradigm shift. If AMD were to find a way where you do away with full cores, but instead supported micro cores, with better context-switch support for threads and better supporting asynchronous pipelines, they'd be on to something.
Instead though, everyone's only interested in focusing on the standard way x86 works.

AMD have given this a crack in the past (in the form of Amulet, an ARM implementation), but only on ARM. An x86 implementation would change things.

[BluBoy]

Its ok folks... Original quote was taken out of context

http://www.extremetech.com/mobile/10...t-not-with-arm

“AMD is a leader in x86 microprocessor design, and we remain committed to the x86 market,” Silverman told us. “Our strategy is to accelerate our growth by taking advantage of our design capabilities to deliver a breadth of products that best align with broader industry shifts toward low power, emerging markets and the cloud.”

The larger truth behind Silverman’s statement is that no matter what AMD does, it’s not going to be “AMD versus Intel” anymore. ARM plans to push into netbooks and servers, while Intel has plans for tablets and smartphones. In the future, AMD will be crossing swords with the likes of Qualcomm, Texas Instruments, Nvidia (in CPUs), and Intel.

[OpenSystem]

Originally Posted by BluBoy

Its ok folks... Original quote was taken out of context

http://www.extremetech.com/mobile/10...t-not-with-arm

we believe the AMD FX CPUs offer a great experience for how our performance customers use their PCs today.

I wish this were true.

I cant game on this Bulldozer ATM see: http://forums.overclockers.com.au/sh...postcount=3350

and

http://forums.overclockers.com.au/sh...postcount=3332

I'm currently stripping it down, parting it for a i7 920 build - which is freakin smooth and powerful for gaming.

[AEKaBeer]

Asus has a bios fix, Asrock shouldn't be too far behind.

[OpenSystem]

Originally Posted by AEKaBeer

Asus has a bios fix, Asrock shouldn't be too far behind.

For throttle or BSOD? BSOD is fixed.