Banned Dog - Dogo Argentino

Discussion in 'Pets & Animals' started by n3wbi379, Aug 24, 2015.

  1. Dogfreek

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    I appreciate all breeds for what they are ,you cant judge a book by its cover,and without being a pain in your arse like i said i got the statts from countries where Dogo are plentifull,and i did prove my point.
    Yes i have a passion for larger breeds and have owned, judged and have been a succesfull breeder and dog exhibitor in dog shows for over 40 years.My wealth of knowledge is highly respected in the Australian canine world.
    I have worked with and for the RSPCA and Animal Welfare league training and rehoming dogs on death row smd have worked cliseley with vets and The Australian National Canine Council.
    What is your experience with dogs Zzapped?
    If you ever require an expert opininion on any breed of dog,there history,temperement and a respected registered breeder to buy a perfect Pedigreed,health tested,temperament tested puppy from,feel free to contact me.
    I do look forward to the day when the Dogo is recognised as breed and re introduced to Australia and in 10 years we can look at the Australuan Statts snd make an educated comment on a breed you obviously know very little about.
    Have a nice day
     
  2. holdennutta

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    Certain breeds attract certain types of owners. Those types of people often NOT the best type of people to own those dogs.

    Can't escape that.

    Also - the internet is full of self proclaimed experts touting statistics. Don't be overly surprised if people take most of your points with a grain of salt.
     
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  3. clonex

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    Are they tho?
    So folk in ipswich/logan are best suited to staffies? :D


    Looking on ipswich FB pages every second Shaza or Wayno is selling "pure staffies".
    Ads get taken down usually as soon as someone asks for the breeder # which i believe is required to be advertised by law now
     
  4. holdennutta

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    Oh crap. Missed an entire word.

    NOT THE BEST PEOPLE TO OWN!! Haha

    I will edit.
     
  5. Dogfreek

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    I agree Holdennutta and Not surptrised at all.Some people are very close mimded and one sidedly opinionated with out knowing the facts or learning more about there lop sided comments and criticisms before judgeing.
    Yes different strokes for different folks.
    If your passionate about something like i am about dogs and Dogo in particular you will allways stand up for what you know and love.
    I only saw this forum yesterday and was shocked at many peoples misconceptions and small minded one eyed opinion.Like i said its the owner not the dog that are to blame %99 of the time.
    I was just trying to shed a bit of light on the subject as i do know what im on about.
     
  6. WJR

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    Pure staffies is just code for Pit Bulls so mouth breathers can get around BSL restrictions.
     
  7. cbb1935

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    Dogfreek and dogodeigo on page 5 ... both new users and both punctuate and post the same... HMMMMMMM

    Sudden expert pops up ....

    It's pretty commonly known that it's rarely the breed, and more the type of people the breed attracts (sadly).

    Druggos and Bogans want a big muscular, solid and aggressive looking dogs to counteract their small dicks... sadly that often means the dog will be mistreated, non socialised, and non obedience trained.

    So you have a big muscular powerful dog that can do damage if it bites, being mistreated... that's the recipie for disaster right there when a kid walks past and wants to pat "doggie" through a fence.

    But you can't easily restrict dog owners, so the breeds are restricted based on how much damage they can do. A Dacshund might be the most aggressive breed, but it's bite will do far less damage than if a bull terrier breed or mastiff gets hold of your arm.

    I used to own a Rottie (which is a breed that has had a bad rep before).... beautiful dog and such a sook. Now I've got a Labrador... and honestly between the two of them, both had the same temperament and "sweetness" about them.

    Every single poodle I've seen or met, has made me question this. Including one that used to try and bite any male person it saw. On the flipside I know someone with a Doberman bitch. Walk up to the side gate, stick your arm through to pat it... and you'll have it ripped off. But have the owner there alongside it and it'll take all the tummyrubs in the world and lick your hand.
     
  8. sanousie

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    We had a blue heeler that we got from a rural farm in Nyngan NSW, pure bred.

    He was the most aggressive guard dog i've seen, Bitten a couple of our relo's that tried to enter when we werent home, even bit a relo's hand that tried to open the gate even though we were at the back of the yard (opened the front gate).

    But would not be aggressive if we were around, would want pats from strangers as long as we were near his side, but enter the yard, Good luck, he would mangle your leg/arm (was very aggressive), sent a couple of people to the hospital (it was their fault). He was very cunning, if you'd be walking on the street past the front yard, he would not bark until you'd stop in front, and if you'd stand their long enough, he'd take a seat, watch you but at the same time be growling ever so slightly, as soon as you touch or approach/put hand through the fence, he'd snap at you/try to rip off ya arm.

    Any dog can be trained to be aggressive in the right situation, i've even met little aggressive watch dog teacup chihuahuas.

    But purchasing a dog that has natural aggressive tendancy to be a around a family is not a good idea, even if your a good/pro trainer, a aggressive breed dog would always see a child as a threat in the family hierarchy. Thats why you always see cases of aggressive dogs biting kids on the face (in the dogs minds i bet they perceive kids as another pet) dogs will notice parents giving their kids more attention etc and might percieve those actions as a threat.
     
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  9. BitAddict

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    I have a 2 year old rescue blue Staffy named Alfie. He is big and bulky for a staffy (24kg), but he has the gentlest soul around.
    When my 3 nephews come and visit, it is the most caring, cautious interaction you can imagine. He will lie on the couch with them, lick their legs and cuddle up to them. Even when they are playing with his favourite type of toy, he never jumps to get a closer look.
    I think he regards them as the little people that walk around scattering treats everywhere.

    I just really hate it when people tar a certain breed with the same brush. I don't even go to dog parks anymore because the small dog groupies will automatically pick up their little barker's and give me scornful looks when Alfie waddles along, tail wagging, to say hello.
    We walked down a local street the other day and a little barky thing ran out and fair bit him on the arse. He spun around and backed away, between my legs, looking at me as if to say 'wtf was that?!?" With the little evil fucker still running around, barking and nipping at my (leashed) dog...his owner came out and looked absolutely livid... 'How dare you walk your fighting bull terrier past my house with the open gates' and picked the barking rat up to protect it from the evil staffy.

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  10. cbb1935

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    Alfies gorgeous :)...

    That's the same with our girl to a degree... I've found the smaller dogs seem to be bigger pests/yappers than the larger dogs.

    Shes fine with most other dogs, but sometimes a dog gets too close in her personal space and she gives then a snarl/growl.

    Being a 35kg Lab with a deep stocky chest and a blocky Newfoundland like head (she's out little bear), some people can be a bit weary of her.

    Staffies are great dogs... WITH a good owner :)
     
  11. Dogfreek

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    I only just found this forum so your right i have just popped up.
    In actual fact in the show world %98 of owners ,showers and breeders are classy ,wealthy ladies who pour loads of money into imports to better these large muscular breeds,they dont have dicks at all just a true passion for there chisen breed so your wrong there,however i do agree many bogans and rednecks acquire tough looking dogs because they do have identity problems and its these types of people that ruin reputations of many large muscular breeds and mistreat there dogs which really worries me sbout how they treat there children.
    I have bread and shown Neapolitan Mastiff gor 20years,and have mever had problems with aggression as. I dedicate my life to my dogs.Training,socialising and importing.There is much misconception as you surely know about dangerous dogs.
     
  12. BitAddict

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    Thank you, he's a good egg, nearly died of pneumonia when someone out Paramatta way left him chained to a post as an 8 week old puppy...

    What you say is very true, this is my second staffy and they definitely need a strong, consistent hand, mostly to curb some of the 'people focus'. They just want attention *all the time*, it manifests itself as jumping up, leaning on or sitting on people, running around the house excitedly when someone new arrives and persistent vocalising when they are blocked from being with whoever is there. Those are the more benign traits, but they will also bark and growl at other dogs if they feel those dogs might be a competition to their relationship with a human (in the dog park for example...) Those things are easily kept in check, but if not... or even worse encouraged - rewarded for jumping up, and then grabbing an arm... or rewarded for growling at/biting other dogs.... you end up with a nightmare.
    Just like any other dog really!
     
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