REVIEW der8auer Delid Die Mate cherry popped twice

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  1. shane41

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    First off let me say this is a very light review. ;)
    Only x1 goal, to tame my Devils Canyon 4790K temps. aka " Hot Bastard "

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    Test pilot before an expensive Haswell

    Always said I'd never delid. After watching a video of this delid tool in action, decided to give it a crack. That's kind of what it sounds like when the IHS looses tension.
    If the processor is warm more like a pop I think.

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    Vital statistics.

    4790K running x46 @ 1.1875 bios. x43 uncore Auto. Igpu enabled. Power saving off.

    Thermal Pastes etc


    732 Black Silicon to re attach IHS
    Thermal Grizzly Kyronaut
    Gelid Exteme

    Mission
    Only using non conductive pastes. Stuff locally available.

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    Cherry popped again :D

    After delid, cleaning is easy. Take care of surface mount electronics on x1 side. Used stanley knife section about 1cm. Removes bulk of silicon.
    Then thinners softens it more. Using a cotton tip does the trick. Clean with Isopropyl Alcohol after.

    Apply Thermal Grizzly Kyronaut. I then did light silicon edge on IHS.
    The delid tool is useful for holding in place while silicon sets too.

    Only about 10min. Remove, then clean up silicon while soft, pointy edge of the stanley blade section. Isopropyl Alcohol again.

    Gelid Exteme on the IHS. Into your machine the processor goes.

    Testing


    All testing with LinX 0.64. Watercooling 540rad 1fan only maxed. Pump 1800rpm. < to simulate a smaller WC system only >
    Ambient was 24 deg. Later after delid dropped 3 deg.
    Some screenshot will show higher idle. Perhaps screenshot too early

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    Original configuration.

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    Before delid vs After delid

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    Success I'd say :leet: Up to x48 easily & temps are going well.
    Thanks for looking. Go easy, first review too :shock:
     
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  2. shane41

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    So tonight been testing limits of the cooling. Ambient here was 23deg earlier & now 20deg.
    So add 2-3 deg to later screenshots to be correct.

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    Mostly Auto in bios. Some additional + tweaks to help stability. Nothing is backed off though.
    Same testing as the post above. Think x47 will be the sweet spot now. :tongue:

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    These x2 last screenshots. Cooling is maxed. Pump & x3 fans flat out.

    x49 Was not possible before. Ambient need to be 5deg or less.
    Processor still was near on thermal limits on 1-2 cores

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    x50 is not easy to nail. Only been up this high a few times now.
    Always thermals run away. Could never get this far.
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    HT off. Minor adjustments / still need more though.
    Temps getting to 90+ is enough with HT on low LinX runs
    Still completed a run. Yay * Notice last one was about to bug out! *

    140Gflops :wired:
     
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  3. headin2001

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    Nice one Shane. To avoid thinners, I just used an old videoezy card to scrape it off. No chance of damage that way.

    Now, get some LET (liquid electrical tape) and cover those resistors and buy some Coolaboratory Liquid Utra. Really makes a big difference over the other pastes. There is others coming to the market too, like Phobya has a LM too, and Coolermaster has a new Mastergel Maker coming too which looks interesting (I'm giving this a go soon ;) ).

    Keep the results coming. :thumbup:
     
  4. shane41

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    Thanks champ for advice :thumbup: Was doing some good LinX runs last night x49 cooling & all x3 fans maxed. Ambient about 17deg iirc, temps maxed about 80deg. Which is amazing for this processor.

    The thinners was OK. Made sure to wipe path where the silicon was.
    Infact it left the silicon in the valley areas of the pcb. Which I liked as it was a flatter surface. Still happy days with the result :)

    LET (liquid electrical tape) Where can I get it?
    Coolaboratory Liquid Utra Only seen a Russian variant on ebay?
     
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    http://www.ebay.com.au/ulk/itm/171224699538

    Got mine here. It's only small, done 2 CPUs so far, goes a long way. Just don't have it near electrical resistors or aluminium (eats it away). Not that good for super cold though. Just under 0 you'd be fine, starts to granulate when lower than that.

    LET I got a tin at my local Jaycar. Stinks bad, protects good and peels off later if needed.
     
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    Plastidip is no diff from LET right guys? Will have to delid my 6100 once i get that cold.
     
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    Be up there soon guys. I'm not done with the cherries yet :leet:
     
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    Same but different.
     
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    Buy a tin of Rustoleum from bunnings.
     
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    This one I think Zero is referring to.
     
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    Good suggestions guys :thumbup: Been giving Hot Bastard a hammering.
    Post up pics in a min.
     
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    Never tried. I generally think of it as permanent.
     
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    Nice work. Only a few degrees difference. But it allows you to up the multis. 5GHz is a good effort.
     
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    It's more than a few degrees though. Not noticeable difference viewing the 46x multi screenshots. But 48x & beyond is where the paste/delid pulls ahead.
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    So another 4790K here, same testing on front page. This one slightly better,
    I've not tried the super low volts. Just slightly lower V than the first 4790K aka "hot bastard " which it can do easy. Uncore Auto on this one defaulted to 1.2V on x43. :confused: Don't know why, much higher than hot bastards default.

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    Top x2 screenshots 22-23 Ambient. x48 multi screenshot is 21deg Ambient.

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    These screenshots <lot of 3> compare direct Stock with Gelid extreme VS Delid/ Gelid extreme. Note some ambient temps are lower. otherwise 23deg.
    Screenshot <4th or last> Cooling maxed out x49 on it's own, lower ambient temp 20deg
     
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    Hey mate, do you have numbers to back up this up?

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  19. shane41

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    About 12deg vs 20deg on load Aussie. Easily 60% better.
    But ........it's conductive & nasty to clean liquid paste off.
    Stuff rolls off like Mercury " tiny " balls. Got around back on the cpu contact pads. Need watch this..........
     
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    That sounds evil .. best I don't touch that stuff.

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