I want to KILL my phone!

Discussion in 'Networking, Telephony & Internet' started by BobJustBob, Aug 12, 2017.

  1. BobJustBob

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    i currently have a dedicated phone line with telstra. with nbn i won't technically require a dedicated phone line, so unlike before, i now even more (i did consider going naked) question the purpose and point of maintaining a dedicated phone line that costs $324 anually - not counting calls. some people probably already gathered that i must not make many actual phone calls. correct. in fact, whilst i might make 2-5 a month, sometimes less, 99.9% are fluff i make because i can since i have a phone. i can basically live (yes, really) without having a landline now - except for mommy. yes, dearest mumsie can't be cut off. if i kill off my telstra landline (because i'm already rocking internet via nbn fttp ftw - and that's all i want, fucking internet) how will i call mumsie or she me? we yak a couple times per month, sometimes up to or past an hour. so here i am asking people who socialize and shit, because i absolutely don't. what are my options for what i want, which is actually just to be able to dial a local (perth) number and talk to mumsie. she is old and not into internet or mobiles. don't bother, those two options are off the table. she does have, and will until her death, a dedicated phone line. i use skype on a windows pc (for free to other skypers) but know you can buy credit for real money which then allows you to call real phones. at least i think it is so. could that be an alternative? oh sure, as it is, she calls me too, but her not being able to could work too, because instead of me calling her twice per month and she me, the same, i'd just call her all four times. i say four, but it's really about two per month. once she calls and once i call, specific instances notwithstanding.

    so apart from mobiles, what options do people have? remember that i pay $324/year for a real dedicated phone line and really only around another $10-20 on top for calls, so if any alternative is even half that, it won't be worth it. i mean if any alternative is around $150 or so, i might as well keep a real phone going which allows me to make any calls anytime i want and all that jazz.

    i don't think i'll turn it off, so i suppose if i really think about it, i am refreshing myself with what alternatives there are nowadays, so i know just in case, and so that i have an updated (since the 90's) plan.

    i mean i am not in such bad shape that i can't afford to keep a $350ish landline going, shame on me, but it's the mindfuck. for all intent and purposes, i keep a dedicated $324/year phone just for mum, so she can call me and i her. around 24ish calls per year counting incoming/outgoing.

    oh and one important question about any of these "software" phones. how do they handle (if at all) instances when you have to "press 1" to continue and such? which nowadays is basically any place you call including dominos. with a real phone, you just press the keypad, and that's that. i assume from a technical perspective that actually sends a tone down the line and la la la... but since software "phones" are fake and you don't use a physical keypad, can they emulate the same result? i don't know, i never ever used "software" phones, but if i was ever to switch, they would have to be able to handle that, lest i could never call a business or most places. like, imagine using a rotary phone nowadays. apart from homes, you'd be stuck at a menu with no way to navigate it.
     
  2. ipv6ready

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    Just cancel the telstra line lol
     
  3. Renza

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    cancel the telstra line and convert to VoIP. Hook it up to the same phone you use now using an ATA (adapter) that has the appearance of having a landline, but not the cost associated with it.

    Some providers are free, you just pay for the calls you make. Others have a monthly fee of $5 or so. Calls are pretty cheap, my provider is like 5c/call to any landline in Australia. There's some real savings to be had.
     
  4. Copie

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    TLDR.

    Anyways if you dont need a home phone then cancel it, or as above said get a voip connection.

    I havent had a home phone in years, always just used my mobile and had naked ADSL2 (and now FTTP NBN)
     
  5. caspian

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    I fail to see why mobile is not an option. both parties dial a number and talk.

    my 70 year old mother quite competently changed over her ADSL2+ with POTS landline to NBN FTTB with VoIP all by herself, including connecting all the hardware and reconfiguring the wifi on her laptop, iPad and wireless printer.

    dialling a different number seems well within reasonable expectation, if need be save the thing on a speed dial for her.
     
  6. ir0nhide

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    port the PSTN to voip and setup a permanent redirect on the voip to your mobile.

    Old mum can still call the same FNN from her rotary handset, and you know her number.

    Next time try using less words.
     
  7. bcann

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    use mynetfone whirlpool special voip offer, $5/year for did (port your number to them) and then 10c untimed for calls apart from mobiles which are 15c/minute. ZERO monthly cost and you get 2 lines.

    its the cheapest you will get. oh and you will need an ata, which can be had from ebay for about $30. also setting up QOS makes life easier when mummy's calls go to shit because your watching UHD Porn on your internet connection and she has no bandwidth to talk to someone because your using it all.

    https://www.mynetfone.com.au/whirlpool/VoIP/Plans
     
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  8. cvidler

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    yes, there's no need for a land line any more. And after 18 months of being NBN'd you'll lose it anyway (no choice).

    So ditch it now and save the money now.

    surely you're fttp provider offers a VoIP service too - you get a regular phone number too, tell mum the new number (it may even be ported so the same number!!!! omg), job done.
     
  9. rickbishop

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    Cancel the phone line.

    Most NBN providers bundle a phone with your internet plan anyway, and very cheap unlimited prepaid mobiles are a thing.
     
  10. BobJustBob

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    i am now investigating voip options and will reply with the outcome later... :tongue:
     
  11. evilasdeath

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    i fail to see why using mobile is a problem? just re program the dialer on her phone most call plans have unlimited calls of some description in them these days to call australian phones, just reprogram the memory button she peobably pushes tp your mobile done
     
  12. BobJustBob

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    it's a GO. that is, i am killing telstra, or to be more precise they are killing themselves -ask me about it-, so i am going voip.

    now then, what's the deal with voip phones? does cost of handset = quality? are they all just cheap chinese plastic? is the gigaset 510 any good?

    **** deleted some parts as i just realized (yay?) i can use my existing phones with an adapter.. *****

    i will -i mean why not- port my existing number and i do wonder, once done who will "own" it? me or the voip provider? i mean if they will, does that mean i won't be able to port again if i move to another voip provider? how's that part work?

    i assume if i happen to be downloading stuff at near max download speed and someone calls me on my software phone (that so many of you embrace) the quality will be shit and it will crackle and sound like an international call from the 1970's. i'll have to pause downloads right, kek, so my 2017 tech phone works okay? we call this a negative for the tech, right?

    what else should i know about voip tech?
     
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  13. caspian

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    you never own your FNN. not ever. it always belongs to the carrier it is assigned to.

    you are overthinking and overcomplicating this to silly levels. just port the damn number to VoIP and use it. the NBN has network level QoS enabled precisely so voice quality is not impacted by other use. a lot of very smart people spent a lot of time making it a POTS emulation experience.
     
  14. CQGLHyperion

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    Use your existing phone with an ATA. A lot of modems that support VoIP already have one built in but check to make sure.

    VoIP quality isn't as bad as it used to be. Use QoS (again something your modem may or may not support) to ensure the VoIP is given the highest priority over other data.

    I can only guess at what else you are trying to say as it appears to be incoherent nonsense.....
     
  15. MR CHILLED

    MR CHILLED D'oh!

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    Different levels I guess, I certainly know my mum isn't capable of even the most basic technology things....very very old school, when it comes to tech.
     
  16. caspian

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    I am long, long over the whole "I don't computer" excuse. if people can't connect a few generally colour-coordinated cables to their associated ports, then they shouldn't be doing other complex stuff, like using appliances or operating a vehicle. I have no idea how they manage to operate a basic piece of software on a PC if connecting a green plug to a green socket defeats them.

    the reality is that people won't try.

    [​IMG]
     
  17. BobJustBob

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    is there a good website that sells many different VoIP phone adaptors? dick smith is bust and gone now right? yeah, i don't get out much..

    so i will NOT port my number and will just buy an adaptor and buy a voip plan. i'm almost done, just need a website where i can see several adaptors and order one i like. please provide a link for me. :eek:
     
  18. MR CHILLED

    MR CHILLED D'oh!

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    Well yeah it's basically gone and is now Kogan, with a "Dick Smith" banner.
     
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    Just became my desktop picture....
     
  20. Bold Eagle

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    ^^ this TPG bundles the phone (free local/national calls) with our NBN Plan - we even got to keep our phone number.
     

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