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Telstra Wireless Broadband

Discussion in 'Networking, Telephony & Internet' started by rebound, Jan 23, 2009.

  1. rebound

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    Hi.
    Just wondering regarding those usb dongles. Mate has a static ip home adsl account with bigpond. If he gets one of the telstra next-G dongles, can he log in using his adsl bigpond credentials and use his home static ip for his laptop through the dongle?

    If thats not possible, what kind of IP address would he be getting with the USB dongle and would it be dynamic? (ie. would it be a very different ip from his ADSL one? Ie. would it be possible to get an ip like 121.222.140.xxx?

    Thanks!
     
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  2. joe_sixpack

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    As far as I know... all wireless internet connections in Aus give you a NAT'd IP, not a real "on the internet" IP ala ADSL for example.

    I know this is true for Telstra and Vodafone, I'd probably guess Optus etc.. are all the same deal.
     
  3. qwijibo

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    That might be true for telstra, but definitely not for '3', and I'm pretty sure not optus/virgin (been a while since I used my virgin sim) - you get a real IP.

    I would be somewhat surprised if telstra gave out NAT'd IP addresses - that is just broken.
     
  4. PULS8R

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    Not sure what the NAT'd IP address would be like, but I'm sure 3 give out a real IP and it's dynamic. Everytime you connect it will change totally.
     
  5. joe_sixpack

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    I would be very surprised if you were given real IP's to your wireless devices...

    For Optus and co to give out what, say 1/2 million real IP's to 3G connected devices would be a total waste of available net blocks.

    I believe you can request a real IP or by changing your devices APN.. but by default you'll have a NAT'd IP.

    Remember, there is a shortage of IPv4 addresses. :p
     
  6. looktall

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    if you get an orange telstra wireless card/dongle, then you will receive a NAT'd IP address.

    if you get a blue bigpond wireless card/dongle/modem, then you will receive a regular IP address.

    all this means is that you won't be able to run services on the telstra modems (mail server etc), but you will be able to run services on the bigpond modems.
     
  7. joe_sixpack

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    Sorry incorrect...

    I have both the Turbo series 3/5 cards (orange) and Turbo series 7 cards (blue), they have nothing to do with if you get a real IP as such...

    The APN in which you use to connect, defines the network you attach to, not the hardware device.

    Based on the APN's you have access to will give you varying levels of network configuration etc..

    As I have already stated, the default APN's for Telstra and Vodafone will only give you NAT'd IP's.

    Edit: I notice you mention modem.. If you are refering to the home 3g wireless router kit, then I believe you do get an APN which will assign you a public IP address... how ever regular data packs/bundles do not have access to that APN.
     
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  8. caspian

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    depends very much on what you mean by "Telstra".

    any Bigpond supplied service will give you a dynamic public IP.

    Telstra corporate wireless services will be NATted.
     
  9. Pacifist

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    It's the pre-paid NextG wireless plans that getted Nat'd with Telstra.
    The postpaid plans from Telstra give you a dynamic public IP.

    Thread on Whirlpool here.
    http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/981410.html
     
  10. joe_sixpack

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    I have Telstra and Vodafone services and both given out NAT'd IP's...

    Just checked with a friend who's on Optus, yes he has a public IP, but it's not routable.. nmap'n the public IP results are different to nmap'm the device locally. Optus must block all incoming ports, and they proxy the internet.

    As good as a NAT'd IP I guess.. :p
     
  11. Pacifist

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    Hey Joe, i just connected my own Vodafone connection then.
    [​IMG]

    Definitely a public IP, i can access remote services via that IP from a seperate connection.
    I'm on the post paid mobile data plan.
     
  12. joe_sixpack

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    what APN do you use?

    vfinternet.au only gives out NAT'd IP's?
     
  13. Pacifist

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    You know what, i don't have an APN at all.

    I downloaded the Huawei E220 modem driver, created a new dial-up connection in Windows XP. Set the number to *99#, username to whatever i want (it's sim card based authentication) and connected.
    This gets me a public IP.
    I didn't add any extra init commands to the modem to specify the APN, it doesn't actually need them.

    Note i don't use the Vodafone mobile connect software. It's a bloated peice of crap.

    If there's a place for the APN that isn't in the extra modem init commands let me know and i'll tell you what it is. Otherwise i honestly have no APN set.
     
  14. joe_sixpack

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    Yea the VodaConnect is really bad! It sets a default APN of vfinternet.au on the connection..

    I didn't even know you could just connect to voda without their software. :thumbup:
     
  15. AzzKikr

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    If you're using a Telstra/Bigpong connection and want a live IP, call the Support centre and ask for option GPTEXB3 to be applied to your account. You might have to make a few calls to get this applied, as not everyone knows what it is or where to find it.

    Once applied, you should be able to change your APN to telstra.extranet, which will then provide an external IP address.

    -A.
     

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