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10th gen Intel Desktop Comet Lake CPU(i9 10900K, i7 10700K, i5 10600K, i3 10320 & Z490)

Discussion in 'Intel x86 CPUs and chipsets' started by Azzan, Dec 30, 2019.

  1. Azzan

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    https://www.techspot.com/news/83349-slides-reveal-intel-entire-10th-gen-series-up.html
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    "Release dates are still a mystery, but given the proximity of this leak to CES 2020 (starting on Jan 7), you can almost bet you’ll see these specs on the big screen when Intel takes the stage."

    Intel Could Split 10th-Gen Comet Lake CPUs Into Two Different Sockets - https://www.tomshardware.com/news/i...en-comet-lake-cpus-into-two-different-sockets

    Specs for nearly a dozen Intel Comet Lake CPUs may have leaked - https://www.pcgamer.com/au/specs-for-nearly-a-dozen-intel-comet-lake-cpus-may-have-leaked/

    Leaked Intel 10th-gen Comet Lake S picture confirms specification rumors - https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/intel-comet-lake-s-cpu-5-3-ghz-single-core/

    Intel Core i9-10900K 10 Core CPU Benchmarks Shows It’s More or Less A Core i9-9900K With Up To 30% Better Multi-Threading Performance - https://wccftech.com/intel-core-i9-10900k-cpu-benchmarks-leak-30-percent-faster/
     
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  4. wintermute000

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    The clocks may keep intel firmly in the lead for pure gaming vs Ryzen 4000
    But not a good sign for Intel if they're just 14nm++++++++++++ and same uarch just with even MOAR wattage

    ultimately pricing will determine whether its a good or bad chip

    I wonder how much of the security stuff is properly mitigated in hardware, or is it simply duct tape over the known exploits without fixing the underlying speculative execution architecture
     
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    A refresh as expected, I am just curious if Intel is going to bring the price down to compete with Ryzen, Currently i7 and i9 are just too expensive, i3 and i5 are pretty much dead unless you are going for an office build:mad:
     
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    Almost nil jim. CPU's take years to make - fundamentally changing the speculative execution components will take 3-6 years.
     
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    I think 10900K specs interesting(extra 2 cores and also higher speed, probably thanks to not having any iGPU) but I don't see myself upgrading to 10900K even if I didn't have to upgrade to Z490 cos I think overall gaming performance would be very similar to 9900KS(or maybe even slightly lower) according to current spec.

    Price is also interesting, cos it should be similar to 9900KS price($899) to be competitive imo.. But 10900K's got much faster clock speed than 10900X($999), therefore 10900K should cost at least $100-$150 more than 10900X.
    So maybe Intel will reduce the current i7/i9(inc low-end HEDT) prices by $100-200, then price new 10900K ~$1000.

    10th gen Intel desktop CPU's gonna be socket 1159(or 1120) according to previous rumors and need new Z490 motherboard(basically identical to Z390 with built-in wifi?), meaning Z490 chipset will only be used for 10th gen desktop CPUs.. cos 11th gen Intel desktop CPU should be 7nm/10nm.
     
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    Let's all buy new MOBO's
     
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    Only if 10900K is a beast(i.e. great overclocker), but I don't think that's gonna be the case.. (looks like it's gonna be overclocked to max out of the box kinda like 9900KS or gen3 Ryzen 9)

    10900K can probably run 5.1GHz(all cores) like 9900KS with great cooling(which isn't bad considering it's got 2 extra cores).
     
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    I reckon this “velocity boost” is gonna turn out to be very similar to precision boost.
     
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    Waste of money, skip the 10000 series Intel. If you have money to burn and want that 1% bragging right on fps in games get a 9900k/s otherwise get a bargain ryzen 3600x or 3900x depending on your budget, both better bang for buck than Intel right now.

    Its going to take Intel at least another generation to catch up.
     
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    these are only my thoughts, could be totally wrong

    - I would be very surprised if it can’t outperform 9900k for gaming. It’ll probably just only be by a small margin, like most intel releases these days.

    - HEDT is not directly comparable for pricing estimates. HEDT has other advantages, it’s not reasonable to assume 10900k must cost more than 10900x at all.

    - sure amd is ‘bang for buck’ but there is no denying intel is still king for gaming at the high end. Given this is an overclocking forum, there will be a higher proportion of people looking for the best performance even if it does cost. It’s not ‘1%’ apart from a few specific games. several games have much larger differences like 10%. This is for 9900k too, one would assume 10900k will be better again....Of course not everyone can justify the cost, and anyone doing stuff other than gaming probably wants the extra cores.

    - will I upgrade from 8700k? I don’t know, need more details and not just speculation :)

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    10% in 1080p with a 2080ti?
     
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    10900K should outperform 9900K on games, but not sure about 9900KS. But even if 10900K is slightly slower than 9900KS for games, it's gonna be faster for productivity.. therefore better CPU overall.

    I need to build new ITX gaming system for a friend in ~Mar, so maybe I can give him my 9900KS, D15 and SSD(unfortunately not 2080Ti cos MSI won't fit in PC150).
    https://forums.overclockers.com.au/posts/18401528/
     
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    Too little too late...
    But that 10% costs you more like 100% more doesn't it?
    I supposed if you absolutely MUST have that 10% then sure go for it.. but for a LOT of people it's just not worth it.
     
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    Also don't forget at 2k/4k the difference lessens, ditto if you're not running a 2080Ti and hence more GPU bound.

    Price proposition even better in Team Red's favour when B550 comes out and people can stop whinging about X570 and active fans (personally don't see the issue with B450 if you're mid-ranging).

    Ultimately speculation but doesn't look promising for Intel unless they take a razor to the price then we're cooking
     
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    Updated OP with some more news, including 10900K benchmark results published ~8 hours ago.
    "Intel's Core i9-10900K 10 Core CPU Benchmarks Leaked - Same Single-Core Performance As The Core i9-9900K, But Up To 30% Faster in Multi-Threading Workloads"
     
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    Performance increase as expected, I wonder how hot is the 10900K considering the 9900K is already difficult to cool. I hope they can come out soon so I can grab some cheap 9th gen i7 and i9.
     
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    yes. My point thought is that people are totally dismissing intel when they do still have a (notably small) part of the market covered here.

    Sure it’s not dollar per fps value but for the many people on this forum, me included, who have 2080ti’s, you can imagine that dollars per fps isn’t our top priority and we don’t mind spending twice as much for that extra performance.

    for the first time in ages, AMD is a legitimate contender for cpu even at the high end. This is awesome. But they still are not gaming king. For pure gaming application a 9900k will still beat out even AMD cpu at the same price point (3900x/3950x) too. For those of us who have absolutely no need for more cores, and just want max gaming performance, intel is still the way to go.
    Therefore, some people are still interested to see what the 10900k has to offer...
     
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    they will be better than ryzen for 99.99% of people and will be priced accordingly they wont just compete with ryzen they will continue to steam roll them
     

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