12th gen Intel Desktop Alder Lake CPU 04-Nov-2021

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  1. mAJORD

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    Launch late Oct - Nov , I think availability expected pretty soon after launch
     
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    Disappointed with 11th Gen, have the non-K 11700.
    Even with 65W TDP, it runs hot.

    I believe it runs hotter than 10th Gen because it's Sunny Cove which architected on 10nm is backported on 14nm for Rocket Lake (11th Gen).
     
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    Would the 12 series have hyper threading with the x+x cores or does it work differently?
     
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    The performance cores have HT. The Efficiency cores don't . Hence why an 8+8 core part has 24 threads
     
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    thorough. but a bit of a yawn.

    performance and efficient cores...
     
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    Once direct storage is released I feel like all those extra cores will be useless for gamers, and for the enthusiast who wants slow cores? I dont care what is running, I just want it all to be snappy and fast.
    Then in a situation like 3D rendering will the slow cores even be loaded and just sit there doing nothing?
     
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    There's a lot more to games than just 3d rendering, AI, sound, game logic etc. Games have a hard time loading all cores evenly, so a big little design like Alder Lake with good scheduling could actually work well for games at least theoretically. Take hitman 3 screenshot below for example, all 16 threads are loaded on the cpu but plenty below 20% while the highest is 66%. That said in practise yes probably not that useful for higher end gamers but it might mean you can just get a mid range part like a 12600k and still keep up with the top alder lake parts in even the most cpu heavy games.
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    Looking forward to the 12600K. Been holding out on upgrading my 8700K for some time now, waiting for a truly compelling uplift for gaming before I spend the big bucks.
     
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    i7-12700 looks interesting, i wonder how efficient these Alder Lake processors will really be though. Current i3-10105F is damn efficient for a 65W chip. Hopefully they produce some jelly i3 chips.
     
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    https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1436020620483960852

     
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    DDR1 had amazing latency. DDR2 launched with the same and slightly faster clocks, with twice the latency.
    Always happens. You need to move quite a way up the clocks to get advantage for CPU tasks.
    That said, intergrated graphics is going to rule the world and it needs bandwidth, not latency.

    It also seems this particular article refers to the new ratios, im sure it can be tweaked for enthusiasts.
     
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    Registered ram is slower. No point in desktops.
     
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    I would be nice to have the option for ECC ram as the 1-2% variance is often worth the trade off for stability, especially if you're like me and you never turn your PC off. The chances of a flipped bit under non ECC memory is actually quite high, all things considered.

    I believe AMD allow for ECC memory under their consumer grade CPU's.
     
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    I was expecting something around CL30 not 40 for 1st gen. However....
     

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