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12th gen Intel Desktop Alder Lake CPU 04-Nov-2021

Discussion in 'Intel x86 CPUs and chipsets' started by fad, Jun 28, 2020.

  1. shane41

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    I'm not :Paranoid:
    Early adopters get raped.

    History has shown us. Socket super 7 they all shared. 1998
    Then Intel and Amd secretly worked on slot boards. Amd Slot A. Intel Slot 1. 1999
    Fast forward to Skylake. What 15 years?
    A hack was it, where a special bios could do non K.
    Promptly shut down by Intel firmware releases. That was a sucky 103 bclk :lol::thumbdn: Not even that.

    Zebras don't change stripes. Intel and free performance :tongue::lol: Too funny. Edit. It won't last
     
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    from what i recall though, they were raving about the renewed bclk OC ability in the run up to 12th gen launch.
    given that; i'd call it a feature, not bug.

    the (currently at least) complete lack of ddr4 boards with the capability to change bclk pretty much kills this feature for most anyway. shame
     
  3. OJR

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    Yep don't listen to old grumble bum. These 12th gen i5s do around 130 bclk.
     
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    :tongue: I don't care. See it as another thing to waste money on.

    Yup
     
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    So, the latest BIOS updates from various board makers have updated the microcode for 12th gen "K" chips. Asus for example updated today BIOS for Alder Lake boards from 0811 to 1003. Enabling the AVX512 instruction set is not possible anymore with the updated Intel microcode. For what it is worth, I prefer to keep this option, and do not update my BIOS for the time being.
     
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    Increase performance with this one trick Intel doesn't want you to know!
     
  9. shane41

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    Sick and tired of all the frantic new product releases. I don't want ddr5 either.
    Then the itch to scratch buying new parts all the time.
    Intel go back to tick tock methodology thanks :thumbup: Time to bust out the old sockets and rediscover. YaY
     
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    It's been a long time. I didn't even know it had a name when I switched the jumper to 40mhz clock to see it would work. 80mhz, baby!
     
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    Yup my first OC was jumpering a PII 350 to PII 400 clock speed. I was like a pig in shit with the free performance upgrade. I miss those days. Fark! 1997.
     
  13. Myne_h

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    Aww such a noob!

    Don't worry, mate. You'll get there. :p
     
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  14. jpw007

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    This just in: The biggest money grubbing bastards in the business want to continue pay-walling performance like they always have :lol:

    Explains why they've been so useless and lazy for the last few generations, however the mid-range in these is sounding delicious. I'm quite excited to see what people achieve and how easily. Would make some great cheapish gaming rigs (which is fucking hard to come by these days)
     
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    Originally, yes. But that was when they sold only chips with a locked multiplier. But since the introduction of the "K" chips, they are even marketing overclocking. And Intel's own (CPU and memory) overclocking and testing utility is the best in the market for this purpose.
     
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    There is fundamentally no difference between their K and non-K chips aside from market segregation. There is no other reason for them to be locked down.

    I disagree at XTU being the best in market for overclocking, CTR/Hydra is a better featured piece of software than Intel or AMD themselves have been able to put out. But as always best results are from within your bios on a good board.
     
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    Good luck and best wishes then :lol:
     
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    It's built now, can't get my son off it long enough for me to test. :lol:
     
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    my Aida65 mem benchmark says around 50ns latency, any tip on ddr5 to reduce latency ?

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    Don't know anything about 5 specifically, but if latency is the problem, see how low you can push the cas/ras command rate etc.
     
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