Can you elaborate on this a bit? Better in terms of build/handling? image quality? What are the noise levels like at ISO1600? Compared to a 400D or 30D? Care to post up a full sized image somewhere so we can have a good look? I had a better go of the 400D and 30D today, and I have to say that the 30D felt and handled like it was worth far more than the 400. I think that's a statement against the 400D rather than for the 30D. I can get a 30D from overseas on my budget so I doubt I'll bother with a 400D. I know I will be spending most of my money on lenses but I seriously think I would regret buying that body when my alternatives are the K10D and 30D. The Sony is out because of high noise levels for me - I plan on doing a bit of low light stuff and it doesn't seem up to scratch compared to the others. ATM it is a toss up between the D30 and K10D, but I won't decide until I've had a good play with the K10D.