24in 1920x1080/1920x1200 monitors...

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  1. NSanity

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    Apart from the Dell 2408WFP, is there anything else I should be looking at?

    Image quality is important, but the whole input lag thing has me scared, because I do like a good FPS (and I plan on playing GH3 Customs on my PC - input lag seriously fucks over Guitar Hero)...

    I don't really care about a zillion inputs, DVI is enough.
     
  2. domlebo

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    You really won't notice it these days. It's only an issue above like 12ms.
     
  3. Flavzz

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    just have a read of the dell 2408WFP thread to see so many conflicting views on lag. Picture quality is unarguably better with that panel but like ppl said you have to compromise on a bit of lag, depends whats more important to u..
     
  4. oohms

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    Im in the same boat... looking at a 24", but by the time a review comes out that looks at input lag, the monitor is almost EOL anyway...

    Input lag isnt the 5ms/2ms rating, its the delay between the screen recieving an image and the screen displaying it. Its commonly more than 15ms in nearly all lcds.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pi2OE6hSh00
     
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    If you buy one of the cheapies from BenQ, Acer or LG you won't have to worry about input lag. They all use TN panels so they're nice & fast. If you've used a dell 2407/2408 you'll notice a difference in quality, but if you're upgrading from the standard 17/19/22" lcd all you'll notice is how much bigger it is.

    BTW I've got a Dell 2407wfp-hc & a LG L246WH (cheapie). The Dell definitely has better viewing angles, but that doesn't bother me unless I really slouch in my chair then the top of the screen looks a bit iffy. The colours on the Dell are better but I think the LG is actually sharper, though that may be my settings. Either is ok for gaming & both have lots of connections. Unless you want to view from extreme angles or have highly accurate colour reproduction go for a cheapie.
     
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    Can anyone recommend one? Looking at buying one next pay.
     
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    That first review is just short of two years old. The panel looks to have a slow response time and is still sitting at the $900 mark. It may be a nice panel but surely there are better options.
     
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    If you connect via HDMI and are primarily using it for X360, have a look at the S2409W by Dell, it's a 1080p monitor but pretty quick. Otherwise, there's the BenQ V2200 (i think it is) which is nice too. If you need component input though then you'll probably be looking at the more expensive Dells and similar monitors.
     
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    clearly you don't know what input lag is.
     
  11. Sootymooty

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    The Benq FP241w is an excellent monitor and has gotten great reviews all round - it has also avoided any issues that plague some of the Dell 24" (Non TN panel) monitors such as input lag or screen corruption. The Dells are great monitors but I went for the BenQ to avoid those troubles as mentioned.

    The only gripe was that the BenQ didn't support 1:1 pixel mapping but that's been fixed in all new revisions.
     
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    Some 2ms/5ms panels can have more than 40ms input lag... Thats why i worry about it much more than its 2ms/5ms rating.

    edit: look at the youtube link... that monitor would be 5ms or better most likely
     
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    My eyes! The goggles do nothing!
     
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    Colour. Most LCD can't full reproduce the colours if you like nice vibrant colours go for an LCD screen.

    Ignoring colour and cost I'd see if you can still get your hands on a fp241w. I haven't seen it ghost yet.
     
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    Fixed it for you. It is a 6 bit TN panel and therefore it is not the quick response time that is amazing but the other specs. (Source: Bit-tech)
     
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    Yep. Take the wiki with a grain of salt, it needs clearing up. output/input lag is as much due to scalers (probably more so) as overdrive. Most scalers typically buffer a frame or two or three or four when scaling resolution from whatever the pc outputs to lcd native res, and typically are always operating even when pc outputs native res. Theres plenty of lcds that do overdrive without any input lag introduce, eg samsung 226bw.

    http://www.digitalversus.com/duels.php?ty=6&ma1=36&mo1=224&p1=2104&ma2=35&mo2=411&p2=3807&ph=12

    Anyways for quality you've gotto spend a bit. just release HP lp2475w is getting good reviews, its an IPS panel. average input lag 25ms. benq fp241w is ok too, as is hyundai w241d. If you don't mind bad viewing angles samsung 245bw is pretty good, 7.5ms lag. Thing is most people sit close to their monitor, so even looking at a 24inch monitor straight on the corners are already starting to noticable dull on a TN due to limited viewing angles. Even slight head movements result in obvious contrast/colour shifts. IMO anything above 22 inch should be IPS/PVA/MVA no TN, but thats the exact opposite of whats going on (more TN now even in 26inch range, and less IPS/PVA/MVA).
    http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/hp_lp2475w.htm

    Dell 2408wfp is a terrible choice btw for input lag, one of the worst, average 69ms lag.
    http://www.digitalversus.com/duels.php?ty=6&ma1=88&mo1=342&p1=3161&ma2=35&mo2=411&p2=3807&ph=12

    Since its a TN panel the viewing angles spec is absolutely BS. any TN inverts completely at about 150 degrees vertical. lots of examples here
    http://www.digitalversus.com/duels.php?ty=6&ma1=88&mo1=92&p1=946&ma2=35&mo2=411&p2=3807&ph=8
    dell 3007 on left - a true 178 viewing angle panel vs random TN. 178 viewing angles means the viewing of the screen is only limited by the bezel surrounding the panel, a typical flat screen CRT also has 178degree viewing angles.
     
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    It's a fantastic Monitor, I was Lanning with a mate of mine who has one of these. Great for gaming, no ghosting or anything *_*
     

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