$300-400 wired headphones?

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  1. Proetus

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    Ok so after alot of valuable input in the other thread it's become pretty clear even $550 wireless headphones arn't very good.. So now I'm after some impressions of wired headphones so I can buy some for my brothers 25th, looking at roughly 300-400 dollar price range and open design.

    I'm thinking Beyerdynamic DT990 or 990pro look nice, but I'm not sure if the 990 is worth the extra hundred bucks for what you get (headphones.com.au lists only cosmetic changes and that they are a bit more adjustable). He won't be using an amp with them too so it's important they sound good without one.

    Also looking at the Audio Technica AD900's, but to me they don't look as comfortable as the Beyerdynamic sets.. Comfortable is the main thing I want them to be so he can use them as much as he wants.

    Not sure if this should be in what/where should I buy forum but I really need help here so thanks for any you can give :thumbup:
     
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  2. Defsac

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    Really depends on your personal preference. At this price range no headphones are terrible, just different. If there's any stores nearby and you don't mind him knowing what you're getting him, take him with you and let him have a listen to a few different pairs (get him to bring some of his music along). If you're getting them from headphones.com.au or you want to surprise him it makes things a little more difficult.

    You could probably buy a pair of Sennheiser HD-590s for $300, seeing as newer Sennheiser lines have since come out. Some people consider them overbright, I personally find them pretty balanced. I got mine from a friend who works at JB. JB were selling them at $399, $100 below RRP and he took another $100 off. I'd say if you had a chat to a salesman at JB you could probably get the same deal.

    Edit: If you're getting him a pair of high end headphones, you'll probably want to set aside a bit of cash for a headphone amp as well. I got a META42 amp from headphones.com.au, because even assembled they are excellent value for money.
     
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  3. Snufkin

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    The Beyer DT990/770/880 series all require good amplification to perform their best.
    The Audio Technica AD900 is a really good sounding headphone for the price (I think they're comparible to much more expensive models), they're also very easy to drive (anything from ipods to pc soundcards will manage fine). I personally find them very comfortable, they have extremely low clamping force, they're light and the earpads are very large. Some people with small heads may find them a little unusual. The biggest complaint I've had from people is that they don't feel "snug" - mostly from people that are used to firm fitting headphones that have much higher clamping force, but I think it's just a case of what you're used to.
     
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    what about the beyer dt860, they look killer and have low impedance, wonder how they would sound with the META42 amp
     
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    Don't really have the cash for an amp aswell as the headphones, I figuire if he wants it he can get one himself later on, they are mostly for use with his computer setup since he has a 5.1 home theater setup allready and I guess he could use that amp for high good music through them..

    I just want them to be good and really really comfy.. I'll look into the Sennheisers you mentioned.

    Edit - There was only 1 reply when i was typing this :p Thanks for the input guys the Audio Technica set sound great, less clamping = more comfort IMO.
     
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  6. soung1234

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    Headphones are pretty subjective, best bet is to go to a hi-fi specialist and try on and listen to your chosen music through them and judge yourself the sound and comfort... maybe take your bro with you
     
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    I wouldn't have a clue where to go and try on Audio Technica or Beyerdynamic headphones :p

    Thanks for your help guys I'm pretty much sold on that audio technica set, good sound even without an amp + comfort was all I wanted for him :)
     
  8. Snufkin

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    The Beyer DT860 sounds reasonable, but I'm not happy with the build quality myself. They're too heavy so they get uncomfortable fairly quick and the headband design has been known to crack easily (although they've apparently changed this in the past few months, I'll believe it when they stop coming back with cracked headbands).
    The DT860 is a pretty bright sounding headphone, they remind me of the DT831/931 which were nice, but not very versatile.
     
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    I bought a pair of AKG K270s a few years ago. They retailed for $500-ish dollars back in the day and I have found them to be fantastic headphones with a balanced sound and great isolation.
    It's a good suggestion to go visit a reputable Hi-Fi store because you're not looking at buying a piece of crap. You want quality and are willing to pay for it.
    I can recommend AKG and the high-end Sony headphones as I've used both extensively in some of the country's best studios. You would think they know what they're doing!
    Also, try a recording studio supplier (for eg. Sound Devices in Sydney) because they'll be shipping out so much product that they'll be up on all the brands and be able to give you an objective comparison. Not to mention be able to give you a competitive price because of their buying power.

    Good luck!
     
  10. SilverRayne

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    I'd vote the Beyers DT990Pro but again, you'll need an amp.
     
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    "Studio" headphones don't always make good general listening/hifi/music headphones. I haven't heard the AKG K270S for ages, but the K271S is a very mediocre headphone IMO.

    I also don't generally recommend the Beyer DT770 or 990 series unless people a) have a beefy amp and b) want the particular "smiley face" (lots of bass, midrange recession, bright treble) sound signature that they have - it's good for dance/trance and electronica if you want lots of bass, but not very well suited to anything vocal.
     
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    Snufkin, are there any high-ish impedance closed headphones you recommend (That aren't 32ohm audiotechnicas)?
     
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    Why do you want high impedance headphones? :confused:

    My recommendation would depend on what you're using them for. The Beyer DT250 is a very nicely balanced model, it comes in 80 and 250ohm versions. The DT770pro is good if you want heaps of bass, the Beyer DT660 is nice except it has the same headband problems that the 440 and 860 have - but they are low impedance.
     
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  14. SilverRayne

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    Because I built a headphone amp and I need to justify the cost of it by actually using it :p
     
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    Maybe some ultrasone hifi-700's? (or 650DVD's or whatever they're called).

    Sposed to be similar sound to the DT770/990's but not as much amplification required.
     
  16. Snufkin

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    Low impedence headphones work just as well with an amp, they just aren't as heavily dependant on one. Also, a high impedence pair of headphones with an amp won't always sound better than a good pair of low impedence headphones - it's just a different setup.

    Also - good suggestion GTR, if you've after a bassy, easy to drive sound without midrance recession the HFI700 is a good choice.
     
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    i'm going to be using my new audio technica ath-a900s with my gilmore lite headphone amplifier.....
     
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    Ordered the ATH-AD900's, thanks for all the help :)
     
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    True enough, but I've got the gain on my amp set specifically to my current headphones and I don't really want to fiddle with the volume each time I change headpones :p
     
  20. Snufkin

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    You'd have to do that anyway.
    Headphones with the same impedence will still have different efficiency so you'll get different volume levels from different models regardless of specs.
     

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