6GB Gskill Trident F3-16000CL9T-6GBTD Preliminary Tests

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  1. eva2000

    eva2000 DDR1/DDR2/DDR3 Addict

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    Received a new triple channel memory kit from folks at Gskill - 6GB Gskill Trident F3-16000CL9T-6GBTD. The Gskill Trident F3-16000CL9T-6GBTD is supposedly using Elpida BBSE memory ICs, while not as capable as Elpida Hyper 50mm ICs for >DDR3-2000Mhz 7-8-7-x speeds, they still hold their own for looser timings. I'll post my preliminary results here in preparation for a larger triple channel memory kit comparison review in the works :)

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    System:

    First hour using this kit and managed an overclock on these for 8x 32M Pi @DDR3-2124Mhz 9-9-9-24 1T at 1.72v. Asus P6T6 WS Revolution bios sets latencies pretty tight so good pi performance even for Win7 OS :)

    Both 8x 32M Pi and single 32M Pi runs done in same windows session.

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    Shows promise, so now to let this memory kit get to know my Xeon W3540 + Asus P6T6 WS Revolution pairing :)

    Timings and CMD Rate comparison


    Some preliminary memory tests for new 6GB Gskill Trident F3-16000CL9T-6GBTD triple channel memory kit in preparation for a larger triple channel memory kit comparison review in the works :)

    • 20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 99924 2T tRFC 98 1.66v 1.47500v
    • 20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 99924 1T tRFC 98 1.66v 1.48125v
    • 20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 89824 2T tRFC 98 1.66v 1.48125v
    • 20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 89824 1T tRFC 98 1.66v 1.48125v
    • 20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 79721 2T tRFC 88 1.66v 1.48750v
    • 20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 79721 1T tRFC 88 1.72v 1.50000v
    • 20x200bclk : 1600Mhz 67618 2T tRFC 88 1.66v 1.37500v
    • 20x200bclk : 1600Mhz 67618 1T tRFC 88 1.66v 1.37500v


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    Detailed full screenshots for each configuration tested can be seen here.


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  2. Slavetonet

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    Looks quite promising for these Tident F3-1600CL9T. :thumbup:

    How much voltage can it take before it gives up?
     
  3. stablez

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    Hey eva off topic.

    LOL @ $218 3x2GB CL9 2oooMhz. cant get any cheaper though Hey hey hey.
    Nothing beats CL7 GT...

    My ballistx 6400 is at 4-4-5-10-(58)

    can i alter it to by you a known number to get to 8 or 9 under or over 58?

    What is Min to Max and in my clock of 888Mhz

    thanks eva

    this is my 80A DDR2-800:leet:

    I just havent yet played with these settings but i know with these and there mad clockers i can get 4-4-4-8/9 and then iam needing here (Next timming) advise?

    cheers eva2000..

    Iam just asking in your post as you prefer non PM;]
     
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  4. mthien

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    Thanks for the results Eva.

    I have the same memory and was wondering if you think running the following 24/7 is safe;
    20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 89824 1T tRFC 98 1.66v 1.48125v<- (is that a bit high for 24/7?)
     
  5. the_pessimist

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    so your finally reviewing my ram.:thumbup:
    i like some of the timings youve been able to get @ 1600mhz might try a few of those; so far i havent pushed beyond 6-7-6-20-88 @1.64v (Except when i tried 6-6-6-18-88 Fail.).

    looking @ this wit interest.

    here's a screenie.

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  6. stablez

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    There good ram at this price.:)
    even with your tRc there is a difference than CPU-Z reading @ 1000Mhz (Your clocking it at 1600Mhz and its higher than the XMP-2000 tRC):p

    Though; its not making a difference unless its loosened?:cool:

    How long has this series been out? Am i reading cPU-Z right?;)
     
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    eva2000

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    indeed... from what i read the elpida bbse can take high voltage without problem but 1.85v would be usually the point where more volts won't get any higher. My kit likes 1.72v max as optimal vdimm so far.

    sorry can't understand what you're asking :confused: 80A Crucials don't like 4-4-4-x for clocks won't get more than 450mhz IIRC. You want to use 5-5-5-15 for >450mhz up to 600-625mhz at least and no higher vdimm that 1.9-2.1 depending on the crucial 80a modules.


    yes high but for >1866mhz mem speeds on core i7 you usually will go beyond max intel spec'd 1.35v cpu vtt uncore max volts. For benching though it's fine. The beauty of this memory is 1600mhz 6-7-6-x ability within reasonable cpu vtt volts of 1.35-1.45v usually depending on cpu integrated mem controller quality - in the above case 1.375v.

    yeah only managed to get a set from Gskill recently :) Elpida BBSE can't do 1600mhz 6-6-6-x it's a tRCD thing so loosen to 6-7-6-x and it's fine

    trident been out for ages but only recently has price dropped compared to other memory brands increasing in price due to ddr3 price rises, so the bargain value of trident is here :) cpuz spd page is just spd programmed and not what is set in bios UNLESS you set memory to AUTO timings instead of manually set.
     
  8. stablez

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    Sorry to confuse you its just looking into my CPU-Z reading and tRFC is so high i though just "Maybe" with these 80a black 2x2gb modules i might get other g.skill ddr2-800 3-4-4-8 timmings.

    Just looking into how much more i can get out of these best in my hand modules.
    Sorry to hijack thread.. Eva;)

    these are good 6 gb kits for such a low price and the heatspreads are for sure future cooling where there will be no heat problems..

    Thank you...

    Hey eva? Have you played with the new corsair GT's?
    Hows the maximum clock 4 voltage in these compared to the older release...
     
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    probably best to start your own thread on your crucial ddr2 memory.

    I haven't played with new Corsair Dominator GT but read they're rock solid :)

    Updated results

    • 20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 99924 2T tRFC 98 1.66v 1.47500v
    • 20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 99924 1T tRFC 98 1.66v 1.48125v
    • 20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 89824 2T tRFC 98 1.66v 1.48125v
    • 20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 89824 1T tRFC 98 1.66v 1.48125v
    • 20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 79721 2T tRFC 88 1.66v 1.48750v
    • 20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 79721 1T tRFC 88 1.72v 1.50000v
    • 20x200bclk : 1600Mhz 67618 2T tRFC 88 1.66v 1.37500v
    • 20x200bclk : 1600Mhz 67618 1T tRFC 88 1.66v 1.37500v
    • 23x175bclk : 2100Mhz 99924 2T tRFC 98 1.70v 1.55000v
    • 23x175bclk : 2100Mhz 99924 1T tRFC 98 1.72v 1.55000v
    • 23x175bclk : 2100Mhz 89824 2T tRFC 98 1.72v 1.55000v
    • 23x175bclk : 2100Mhz 89824 1T tRFC 98 1.72v 1.55000v


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    Max memory clocks @9-10-9-24 1T at 1.76v​


    Folks are reporting higher head room mhz with 9-10-9-x timings for Elpida BBSE, and I can confirm that is correct. With 9-9-9-24 this trident kit maxing out 32M around DDR3-2124mhz with ceiling of semi-stability around 2160mhz. With 9-10-9-24 timings same trident kit pushed 32M pi @DDR3=2220mhz and managed validation @DDR3-2281Mhz all at 1.76v vdimm and 1.65v QPI/DRAM uncore volts.

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    Max Validation @DDR3-2281Mhz 9-10-9-24 1T at 1.76v​


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    Max Screenshot @DDR3-2267Mhz 9-10-9-24 1T at 1.76v​


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    Max Super Pi 32M @DDR3-2220Mhz 9-10-9-24 1T at 1.76v​


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    New personal best cpuz memory validation and first time breaking DDR3-2300Mhz for triple channel on X58 @DDR3-2305Mhz 9-10-9-24 1T at 1.78v. Previous best was @DDR3-2298Mhz 9-9-9-24 with 3GB Samsung HCF0 modules.

    System:

    Max Validation @DDR3-2305Mhz 9-10-9-24 1T at 1.78v​


    QPI/DRAM = 1.65625v
    VDIMM = 1.78v
    Uncore frequency = 4608Mhz :)


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    Super Pi 2M @DDR3-2256Mhz 9-10-9-24 1T at 1.78v

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    do you plan on doing any sub zero overclocking on these modules just to see the absolute limit of what they can do?
     
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    Unfortunately, no plans for sub zero on memory heh.
     
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    nice results so far george,

    i think subzero on the cpu would be of much more benefit to tame that uncore ;)
     
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    so these have more headroom than elpida hypers? but at the cost of loose latencies?
     
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    eva2000 DDR1/DDR2/DDR3 Addict

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    yeah sub zero on cpu will help more for mem clocks :)

    I think it comes down to individual kits but yes it comes down to that..

    My Trident Elpida BBSE 2305mhz 9-10-9-24 validation vs Corsair Dominator GT 2000C7 elpida hyper max validation 2286mhz 7-8-7-24. Max 32M pi was trident 1110mhz 9-10-9-24 vs gt 1104m 7-8-7-24.
     
  17. stablez

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    thats superb clocks on the average over 2k overclock.
    Nice work eva.
    Did you have to tweak timmings? You said you havent used yet the new hyper based Elpida. When do you think you will result them.
    Iam interested as you taught me about them its got me on the move...
     
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    Only need to touch cas-trcp-trp-tras and trfc. For max validation might need to touch tFAW and for some folks Back to Back cas delay. I won't be buying memory so unless Corsair decides to send me a kit of the new rev Dominator GT, don't think I'll have a chance at testing them right at this time.
     
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    What happened to Hynix ram chips? :tongue:

    Nice results matey
     
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    hey matey - hynix long good new king of ics these days are

    elpida 50mm hyper ics for ddr3 for ddr3-2000mhz+ 7-8-7-x
    followed by elpida non-50mm bbse ics for ddr3-2000mhz 8-9-8-x and 2000+ 9-9-9-9-x
     

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