A General "Hello" from a Newbie.

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  1. WildManComputing

    WildManComputing New Member

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    Hello Everyone,
    New to building a PC an all things greater than Googling and Word '97 (currently actually a Mac user).
    With the little study I've done I'm wanting to build a $1200-1500 tower but being that I'm new to this I don't want to dive that deep in just yet and am waiting to be able to search the Buy/Sell section. I'm thinking I should be able to start at $500 plus monitor to play Trials Rising and grow from there.

    (Edit) Will also be used a little for Fusion 360 and Cura, just a hobby.

    Mick
     
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  2. Jazper

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    Hi Mick,

    As a starter for these sort of things, I typically recommend looking at the latest Techreport system guide (they're usually released quarterly or so).

    As it happens, the most recent one is Jan 2019 - https://techreport.com/review/34371/the-tech-report-system-guide-january-2019-edition

    Generally speaking they're a good starting point, and there's a video for building a new pc there too which is pretty good.

    Good luck with your foray into new things

    Cheers
     
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  3. broccoli

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    Hi and welcome to the forum. :)
     
  4. FOTW

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    $1200-1500 for a tower will get you a decent gaming machine. I would hold off for the moment until AMD release their 3000 series CPU in July. However most important item will be GPU and memory speed as both AMD and Intel CPUs scale well with faster memory DDR4-3400 seems to be the sweet spot.
     
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    WildManComputing

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    Thanks for the heads up on the AMD 3000 CPU Series and the 3400 RAM tip, I’ve wondered about whether cpu gpu & memory have a resonant frequency?
     
  6. Jazper

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    The question not asked - what are you planning on using it for?
     
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    He did mention Trials Rising so I assumed games mainly.
     
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    WildManComputing

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    It will be used for internet surfing and playing Trials Rising (and GTA6 if/when it comes). As I’m doing my researching I’m trying to admit I don’t need to go crazy with a RTX 2060 build but a GTX 760 build will do.
     
  9. FOTW

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    Well its all bout reducing bottlenecks in the system. Obviously you could go mental and by the fastest of everything, however on a budget its about pairing the components that complement each other the best. With your budget Mid range CPU, decent graphics card and high speed RAM. Also the faster RAM will also help further along the line if you want to upgrade the CPU.
     
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    so.. I'd be looking at something like an i5-9600k, asus prime z370 p ii, 3000 or 3200mhz ram- 16 gig - probably gskill trident, something like a samsung evo plus 512gig ssd, maybe a 1660GTX or so?

    I'd probably go an air cooler, just because there is less to go wrong.
     
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    yeah that would be a great setup if your going for something now. I would recommend going for RTX-2060 if your planning to play games above 1080p as its about 10-15% at 1440p then the 1660 gtx. Should bring you above 60fps for most games at max settings.

    Also dont worry about SSD speed just get any M.2 SSD they wont increase gaming performance at all and might only sahve a couple of seconds of loading times.
     
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    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($292.99 @ Amazon Australia)
    Motherboard: Gigabyte - B450 AORUS PRO WIFI (rev. 1.0) ATX AM4 Motherboard ($199.00 @ Shopping Express)
    Memory: Patriot - Viper 4 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3400 Memory ($155.36 @ Amazon Australia)
    Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($97.87 @ Amazon Australia)
    Video Card: MSI - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB VENTUS OC Video Card ($589.50 @ Newegg Australia)
    Case: Cougar - MX340 ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.00 @ Umart)
    Power Supply: Silverstone - Strider Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($125.00 @ Scorptec)
    Total: $1518.72
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-18 22:27 AEST+1000

    Personally I would go for the Ryzen system CPU is almost half the price and is only a couple of percent slower in real world benchmarks compared to the intel, you can spend the extra on a better GPU then.
     
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  13. Jazper

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    I wouldn't go AMD for a person starting out in the pc world


    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
    CPU: Intel - Core i5-9600K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($405.00 @ Shopping Express)
    CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($48.10 @ Amazon Australia)
    Motherboard: Asus - Prime Z370-P ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($169.00 @ IJK)
    Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($168.30 @ Newegg Australia)
    Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo Plus 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($168.00 @ Centre Com)
    Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB OC Video Card ($559.00 @ Austin Computers)
    Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Pro 5 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case ($125.00 @ Austin Computers)
    Power Supply: Corsair - VS 450 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.00 @ Austin Computers)
    Total: $1691.40
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-18 22:49 AEST+1000

    Easy upgrades would be cooler (noctua D15) and power supply (corsair CM850) - note the motherboard is the PII and may need a bios update for the 9600k, which the store should do for you.

    You could shave a bit off the video card going second hand or 1660
     
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    Why would this be, just curious?

    I build both Intel and AMD systems everyday and find the assembly and setup procedure is identical for both brands. As long as parts are compatible there shouldn't be any issues with either system.
     
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    I would love to know the reason also. The process of setup is pretty much identical.
     
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    At the lower end bang for buck AMD's hard to pass by at the moment.

    Not done any numbers at the pointy and mid end.
     
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    The builds posted are similar to what I’ve been coming up with, just stumped on picking a motherboard. In reality I’m thinking of going lower specs (and $$$) for my very first build with a Mobo I can build on later.
    I was set on AMD as it’s clearer to me what Mobo is compatible and allows extra cash elsewhere, but I’ll leave all on the table until parts are purchased.
     
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  18. Jazper

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    I recommend intel because the current platform is more mature than the AMD platform. All Z370 and z390 based motherboards will work with all current processors.

    [edit]Ack - I retract that statement. Z370 boards need a bios update for the 9xxx processors. Most stores will do this for you if you buy the processor and board from them.[/edit]
     
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  19. elcarter1

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    My local MSY does a very competent job of knowing what's compatible with what.

    These days their range appears to be selected with this in mind.
     
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    nice build. i think the xtra 100$ for the gtx 2060 (over a gtx 1660ti) is a sound choice.
    was my conclusion.
    2 cents :)
     
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