AM4, 9xxx APU, and Ryzen Information Thread (Updated)

Still very common on entry level boards for some reason.

 

Nice - I'll look forward to your minireview.

 

Few reviews in Japanese already floating around: https://translate.google.com/transl....jp/docs/column/hothot/1028597.html&sandbox=1

Seems to trade blows with the A10-7870K.

Pre-built it's being shipped in is called AeroStream RM5A-C81/T, retails ~¥70,000.

 

Well it just turned up today, so won't be long

 

This is exciting!

 

I'm not seeing it. How is it exciting? It's already old tech.

 

new chipset/new memory controller wrapped into new socket is new
if the process smaller/shrunk that would be quite a big deal. then i'd be excited.

 

Depends on your interests as to whether it's exciting or not , simple as that. If you're passionate about PC platform, it's somewhat exciting in that it's a step back towards competition in the industry. A sign AMD haven't given up on PC, and if anything are hoping longer term to captialize on Intel taking step back from PC focus.

Of course this all depends how competent it is.. both AM4 as an ecosystem, and Zen, the missing part of the puzzle. But Bristol ridge will give some insight in the meantime.

By Old tech, I guess you're referring to Bristol Ridge, in which case, yes, it is much Like Kabylake.. i.e both are Refereshes of existing architecture.

Anyway, I'll be doing a writeup soon. I've been finishing of benching a Core i3, but it has literally died on me. and I do not know why.

I was downloading a 3dmark update, and it shutdown (cleanly - but by itself) and will not fire up again, just keeps power cycling.. wtf!

I really want to do SATA and USB benches on it, to put against FM2 and AM4 so hopefully can get sorted thankfully 90% of the rest was done on it already.

 

Nah, old tech meaning that Intel already has done ddr4 over a year ago, and their process is smaller using way less power. I see no reason to get excited about old tech.

Don't confuse no passion against getting fed up with being 2nd constantly. AMD last lead the field with the Athlon 64. Ever since has just been a cost reason to buy only. I got sick of it and switched to Intel last year after running AMD for the last ~17 years. I illogically (loyalty and hoping for the good old days again) held out for too long.

10 years time Phil will be benching old windows 7/8/10 intel i5 / i7 boxes with Nvidia 10x0 cards I'm sure.

 

To be fair though. Since the Athlon 64 they have had a few awesome chips.

The first $100 Quad-Core CPU, the Athlon 2 x4 and the Phenom 2 x6, which could be pretty potent once you pushed the NB up to 3ghz and had the core at 4ghz, was able to give Nahelem a good run for it's money.

The Athlon x2 6000+ and the Athlon X2 7750 were pretty solid in their own rights too.

I don't think anyone expects AMD to be the market leader to become a tempting buy, they just need to be "good enough" to nab some marketshare... I doubt anyone would complain if AMD could offer us i7 6850K performance for less money with similar efficiency.

Currently AMD's absolute "best" 4.7ghz 8-Core CPU will loose against Intels Quad-Core offerings whilst they also use orders of magnitude less energy and with more modern chipset features. (PCI-E 3.0, Sata 3 etc'.)

AMD will also need to iterate faster and more substantually, I doubt stagnating for half a decade is going to grant them marketshare... Same goes for their GPU's too.

 

any ECC support on the mainstream chipsets?

 

Haha, yea that's it

 

I havent owned an AMD cpu since 1090, I am way out of touch and do not understand the heirarchy at all.

 

Well it went to the FX series. FX4xxx, FX6xxx, FX8xxx and FX9xxx.

The FX4xxx has four cores. FX6xxx has six, FX8xxx has eight and the FX9xxx has 8 but highly overclocked.

Ignore the FM1/2/2+ sockets, as they're good for APUs but not the enthusiast platform.

New ones will follow the same pattern but they've dropped the FX naming convention and are instead going with SR. As far as I can tell it'll be SR3, SR5 and SR7 but no one knows until it's officially announced. I'd say they'll be split based on cores again, possibly with a combination of [4c/4t, 4c/8t], [6c/6t, 6c/12t], [8c/8t, 8c/16t] one or both of each bracket.

I think they're expected to announce some specifics at CES(?) which starts tomorrow in the US and runs for the week.

 

i may go red if ryzen is any good.

 

Do we know they're doing non-hyperthreaded chips?

 

There is at least one web page saying AMD will drop a 2 core part into the mix. Its anyones guess what will transpire. AMD are really controlling the media "leaks" this time around. Better than Apple with the iPhone 7 for sure.

Id imagine that the small cores will be a APU with high clocks, as is the way of binning silicon these days

 

Most people would love to get their hands on a nice pair of Bristols.

 

I still don't understand it - Why do they insist on putting GPUs in these things?

 

So one doesn't have to buy a Video card (unless they want to play demanding games)