AMD Austin Tech Day - Information from the inside

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  1. moloko vellocet

    moloko vellocet Member

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    Hey peeps!

    I quite literally just got back to the hotel from AMD's Austin campus after a day with some rather interesting information being disclosed and freely discussed.

    Unfortunately, the level of free discussion outside of the room is heavily covered by NDA so I'm unable to announce specific details. But this is what I can say...

    The new platform from AMD will be called 'Dragon' and will be focused around the new 'Phenom II' processors, 4800-series Radeon graphics cards and 7-series chipset based motherboards.

    Here are some general performance observations that I can disclose:

    Phenom II and the Dragon platform can overclock to 4GHz on air - we were demonstrated a system @ 3.9GHz using stock bus frequency and HT link frequency and a multiplier set at 19.5x. This was done with 1.55v BIOS set. This system was looping endlessly through a Crysis time demo without issue; by the end of the day it was past 100 loops.

    The platform core specifications demonstrated were as follows:

    Phenom II processor
    GIGABYTE GA-MA790GP-DS4H motherboard
    Radeon HD4870X2 graphics
    OCZ Reaper memory

    While the unit demonstrated was @ 3.9GHz, we later had a hands on benching period with the new platform and I was able to quite easily reach this stated 4GHz frequency.

    This same platform also exceeded 5GHz on liquid nitrogen cooling. But what was perhaps the coolest (no pun intended) specific of this demonstration was the processor operating and even cold booting at -196 degrees Celsius - that's right, AMD has no cold bugs of any kind, at all for Phenom II!

    During this LN2 session the system was demonstrated operating in excess of 5GHz and running 1.95v BIOS set (1.936v CPU-Z read in Windows) and as stated, at the maximum lowest temps available with liquid nitrogen - time to find a liquid helium supplier peeps!

    I'm gagged by the NDA on any further information and specifications such as model numbers, product features + specs, stock clock frequencies or even specific overclocked frequencies (i.e. LN2 max) as well as pricing, competitive performance or bench scores. So please, don't even bother asking me these questions as I cannot and will not answer these questions - at least until the NDA drops.

    What I wanted to do with this post is at least let you all know that there is hope still for AMD and that while I've harped on about the LN2 experience, the overclocking ability is solid for LN2, phase, water and air cooling methods.

    Cheers guys :)
     
  2. Frontl1ne

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    1.55v for 3.9GHz, is that safe for a 45nm chip? :S

    moloko, any chance of disclosing how much voltage it took for you to reach 4GHz? :rolleyes:

    Cheers for the news :thumbup:
     
  3. prezident doom

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    So i guess the question is... when does the NDA drop ;)

    Nice info btw :thumbup:
     
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    no coldbug... if that's true - AWESOME :cool::cool:
     
  5. AEKaBeer

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    Confirmed 4GHz on air is what's doing it for me. I'll be content with a 3.6ghz clock, 1GHz faster than my current opty (which is still handling itself well I might add) and twice the cores = Mmmm! ;)
     
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    Theres always been hope. I consider myself a AMD fanboy, and while Intel impresses me, I prefer AMD for stability. I can honestly say that AMD processors and chipsets have been more stable for me than anything Intel that I have owned to date.

    AMD aint done and dusted like a lot of others believe, yes i7 is an amazing thing , but wait untill AMD get to 32nm they will have some suprises for intel.

    either way there is room in the marlket for both producers and I personally think thast AMD is the more innovative and will prove that they have the most power efficent product in the near future.
     
  8. pantner

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    so, any performance numbers at these speeds??? or is that what is under the NDA???
     
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  10. sandeep

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    I can tell you at they won't be fully stable at 3.9Ghz or 4Ghz. They might be stable at 3.8Ghz.

    I think AMD is back in action since the release of 9850 BE.
     
  11. pantner

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    lol...reading = FAIL! :lol:

    and how do you know? have you used them?
     
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    shame that we dont have any cheerleader smilies cause they are sooo appropriate right now

    go AMD :D
     
  13. Frontl1ne

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    They looped Crysis throughout the whole day continuously on all OC'd Deneb systems according to Legit Reviews. Sure it might not be Prime95 "stable" but at least it can run big games like Crysis without stability issues. I'm sure with a bit of tinkering and tweaking, OCers would be able to get it stable.
     
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    This is brilliant news, maybe its time to flog off my Kentsfield, when does the NDA get lifted? I want Penryn but I miss AMD.
     
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    If that's not the max, something tells me this could be a record breaking chip.
     
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    AMD may really be onto something again.. :thumbup: The next processor to break 10GHz? XD
     
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    And apparently not handpicked... :wired:
     
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    It's great to see all this positive news coming out about Phenom II/Deneb :) can't wait to get my hands on one!
     
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    Don't have my notepad with me (bag is being loaded on the shuttle) but from memory it was ~1.55v

    I'll get confirmation when I get home and should have samples back in Aus in about a week or so... I think.

    In the mean time they gave us each an ES of the upcoming Athlon X2 7750 to play with and I've got two 45nm Opterons waiting for an appropriate motherboard (come on Tyan >_<) to test as well. Add to the equation the i7 965 and 920 and there's lots of testing to be done :leet: :tired:

    Saw it with my own eyes - they were literally just filling the pot with LN2 and letting it go; no temp-pouring at all and no cold bug or cold boot bug.

    No comment :)

    Correct. Non of the samples shown to us were cherries. Additionally I believe that the renowned extreme overclockers will go even further than what was being demonstrated as AMD were simply using the CPU multiplier to up the frequency and in my quick testing I found it was easier to obtain more frequency by adjusting multiple settings, not just the CPU multiplier.

    Agreed; it is good to hear something positive and interesting - I had the biggest smile when I saw the temps and frequencies being run.

    For once, I'm actually super excited about an AMD sample and waiting with much anticipation. I haven't had this feeling for a long, long time :p :rolleyes:
     

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