AMD Phenom II X2 550 vs Intel Core i7 920: David vs Goliath

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  1. n2p4u

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    AMD Phenom II X2 550 vs Intel Core i7 920


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    NOTICE: This review is not about directly comparing the performance of an i7 and the phenom II X2 as the processors are in seperate segments of the market but as a guide of the potential of the phenom cored processor architecture.

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    Current System As Tested

    Aywun A1-977 Case $40
    Coolermaster Extreme Power Plus 500W PSU $75
    Gigabyte MA770T-UD3P $130
    AMD Phenom II 550 $140
    2GB Kingston DDR3-1333 $45
    2GB Kingston DDR3-1333 $45
    Asus Nvidia Geforce 9600GT 512MB GFX Card $99*
    640GB Samsung HD642JJ Hard drive $99*
    Sony NEC Sata DVD RW $30*
    Xigamatek HSF $50
    Windows 7 7100 Release Candidate $0

    All prices are shown are the current prices except prices which are * priced when purchased.

    Total Price about $760​

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    Now since i dont have an I7 in my possession i will use some of the many available I7 reveiws online.

    The AMD Phenom II 550 was unlocked to QUAD CORE and runs @ 265 x 14 for a total of 3710MHZ! and that is what im testing it against.

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    Test One: PCMARK05​
    Phenom II 550 System: 12021
    Phenom II 550 CPU: 11222
    Sharky Extreme Core i7 920 System: 8858
    Sharky Extreme Core i7 920 CPU: 9268
    Cpu3d System: 7718
    Futuremark Vantage System Scores: Most scores between 11000 to 8000
    http://www.cpu3d.com/review/6265-8/...em-processor/benchmarks-futuremark-suite.html
    http://www.sharkyextreme.com/hardware/cpu/article.php/3261_3782516__3

    Test Two: PCMARK Vantage​
    Phenom II 550 System: 8025
    FutureMark Vantage System Scores: Most scores about 8700 and lower

    Test Three: Winrar​
    Phenom II Single: 797
    Phenom II Multi: 2467
    Legion Hardware Single: 956
    Legion Hardware Multicore: 2764
    http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=786&p=4

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    Test Four: Cinebench​
    Phenom II Single: 4009
    Phenom II Multi: 15277
    Legion Hardware Single: 3721
    Legion Hardware Multicore: 15845
    Bit-tech Single: 3765
    Bit-tech Multi: 14973
    CPU3d Single: 3076
    CPU3d Multi: 12631
    http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=786&p=6
    http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2009/06/22/intel-core-i7-975-extreme-edition-review/6
    http://www.cpu3d.com/review/6265-9/...sor/benchmarks-cinebench-superpi-and-sm2.html

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  2. oaks101

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    interesting post. my 550be is decent
     
  3. eddigan

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    yeh im really interested in this, just sold my i7 rig, might want to have a play around with one of these.
     
  4. Thrawn

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    Haha.. overclocked vs non-overclocked comparison.. pointless

    Just a short example.. (for a fair comparison)

    Cinebench
    Phenom II 3.71 Ghz Single: 4009
    Phenom II 3.71 Ghz Multi: 15277
    Legion Hardware i7 2.66 Ghz Single: 3721
    Legion Hardware i7 2.66 Ghz Multicore: 15845
    Legion Hardware i7 3.88 Ghz Single: 5079
    Legion Hardware i7 3.88 Ghz Multicore: 21622

    Which basically means that Core i7 is about 25% or so faster than Phenom II clock for clock (about right). Coupled with the fact that Core i7 clocks mostly a little better than Phenom II.. its a bit further behind again.

    Very good value still the Phenom II 550 with $250 CPU/Mobo combo versus $650 for Core i7 920. You get what you pay for...
     
  5. Dodge M4S

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    How about an 3dmark06 bench?
     
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    a $750 system vs how much for the i7 system tested???
     
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    "NOTICE: This review is not about directly comparing the performance of an i7 and the phenom II X2 as the processors are in seperate segments of the market but as a guide of the potential of the phenom cored processor architecture."

    That is amazing naphez, this is what OCing is about. Budget chips with high end performance :leet:
     
  8. lawrencep93

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    It is pointless comparing over-clocked and not overclocked, and for the system box you can put an i7-920 for about 1,000 if you go low of features, but try reaching the MAX OC on the AMD and vs it to a 4GHz OC on the i7.


    what about budget high end chips (i7 is budget compared to the other i7's in the range) OCed so a $390 to higher performance than a $2,000 i7 extreme edition
     
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    mate this is a $800 system... When u can build a working system for this much using an I7 and overclock to that much come back and tell me...

    U cant compare a $400 processor + $300 Mobo to a $140 processor + $130 mobo and then say the $700 is better because everyone knows that it is better. But i am trying to show people that an I7 is very overrated and an AMD Phenom II 550 is a better buy as u can reach similar performance for much less price...

    3dmark06 CPU 5010
     
  10. eddigan

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    exactly your paying more than double for the i7 yet only 25% increase?
     
  11. oaks101

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    lets make it simple.

    AMD=CHEAP GOOD PERFORMANCE
    INTEL=MORE EXPENSIVE BETTER PERFORMANCE
     
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    and vs it price performance ratio to a similar AMD system based on the phenom II 550.

    Low features...
    Case + PSU = $40
    Mem = $42
    HDD = $55
    GFX = $30

    $167

    Phenom II 550 $140
    MOBO $130

    Mobo $390
    core i7 $270

    the Phenom II + Mobo = $270 the same price as the I7

    I7 budget system = 830
    AMD budget system = 430



    ie... Double price!!!
     
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  13. AussieTemplar

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    Finally people realise the value of the new AMD processors.

    i7 is a waste of money at the moment as my Q6600 + 4870X2 setup seem to be running everything max settings @ 1920x1200.

    so i dont know what kind of advantage an i7 920 has over my system in terms of gaming.

    oh and apart from the fact you need to fork out money for ddr3 too.

    and a $400 mobo.

    :thumbup:
     
  14. lawrencep93

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    Yer but that is only because he unlocked the other 2 cores on it if you buy the quad core version of the AMD $323 vs i7 $390 its not double the price, and why don't you compare it to like the 4GHz and above you can get the i7 920 to do, the AMD would max out at 3.8Ghz the i7 you can still get higher overclocks just need some better cooling.

    Budget mobo will cost $300 not $400

    but I guess if you don't have the money to put towards your computer you have to settle for AMD i agree but it doesn't mean it's better just because it's cheaper.
     
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    prices taken from MSY pricelist....

    why are u an intel fan boy.... for the price there is no comparison.. I7 is a waste of money no matter how you look and the less money u spend on a system the worse it is... In other words I7 makes no sense!
     
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    Like your 4GHz Core i7, you mean? Oh, wait.

    The whole point of these CPUs is that you don't have to buy the quad-core version. You can buy a dual-core and unlock it.

    Better? No. Better value? Certainly.
     
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    How can it make no sense, it's as simple as if you want a high end fast system buy an i7, if you want a cheap good preforming system buy an AMD and you have to overclock, unlock cores and crap, so it's easier to buy an i7 and OC it to 3.8GHz and there is potential for a higher overclock.
     
  18. iMomOx3

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    Who here agrees that lawrence needs to know the real differences?

    Hes been ranting about this in the other thread...

    Yes, your an i7 owner, kk thats cool we understand, but doesnt mean ranting on about "OMG MY CPU BEST IN WORLD BL2U" is going to help your ego.

    Not everyone has the money like you to buy high end stuff.

    Simply,

    AMD = Good performance, cheap prices
    Intel = Better, expensive.

    ^hence, i said AMD is still good, just because intel is better, doesnt mean AMD isnt good.
     
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    MY PHENOM EATS YOURS I7 (at those settings) FOR BREAKFAST!!!
     
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    I didn't say AMD was bad I said that they are no match for the i7 no matter how much unlocking and overclocking you want to do.

    But if i didn't have the money for an i7 i still would have gotten a really fast duel core or quad core from intel, see the cheaper intel processors can be compared to AMD's high end CPU's but the i7's have just the next step ahead of the field.
     

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