AMD Radeon RX5000 Series - First "Navi" Cards

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  1. the_antipop

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    The Radeon RX 5000 series cards is the name of the new lineup, and the first featured card is the RX 5700, a mid-range offering that will go toe-to-toe with NVIDIA's RTX 2070 GPU. Based upon a new architecture, named RDNA. AMD has finally done away with GCN architecture. The Computex Keynote paralleled it to the Zen architecture rebuild on the CPU front.

    In addition to being the first 7nm consumer video cards, the Radeon RX 5000-series will also support PCIe 4.0 and fast GDDR6 memory. In a brief on-stage demo, we saw one of the RX 5700 go against NVIDIA's RTX 2070 in Strange Brigade, where it emerged victorious by about 10 percent. More info coming during E3. Availability - July 2019.

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    GDDR6?

    what happened to HBM?
     
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    They finally realised it was a waste of time, they have never produced a competitive HBM card.

    Even now, I'm really wondering if this card will be competitive considering what its lacking from Nvidia (Gsync, VR features, OpenGL support, RTX just to name a few.
     
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    Too expensive. The keynote did mention there will still be variants of Vega utilising GCN, and I'm guessing HBM?
    It appears Navi is the new Polaris.
     
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    i still don't know why AMD launch with their mid-range, I assume this is their target market where people are happy that it's "as good as *insert mig-range part here*" and price competitive.
     
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    its where the money is, only like 5% of people get the 2080 vega series and above
     
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    launching flagships works for nVidia.
     
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    but if you cant compete why flaunt the disadvantage?
    why not hit the main sales segment where you actually have the advantage?
     
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    A lot of people base their decision on which company has the best card, and then they buy a lower end card from that range.


    AMD like to release midrange competitive cards a few years after nvidia which really doesn't excite anyone I know.

    Its not like AMD are releasing cards that are so much better value that it can easily sway your decision, especially as you often have to look at AMD cards in a special light just to see why you might buy one.

    AMD used to be an easy decision for value, but not in quite a while.
     
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    except for the Rx570 and to a lesser extent the 580?
     
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    so by this mentality they have confirmed their high end part won't be able to compete?
     
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    Currently no, there high end part is the vega7.
     
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    Simple.
    AMD need $$.
    Their graphics division is losing $$ and market share.
    Going after high profile flagship with high profit but small market share won't help them improve their bottom line. High volume, medium profit, mid range card will bring in $$ (if they can sell it).
     
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    it also firmly cements them as a value brand.
     
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    Yup - only poor people buy AMD...
     
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    is this still Graphics Cuck Next?
     
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    According to the keynote, no.
    It wouldn't surprise me if it still is GCN based, but tweaked and improved enough they've decided it's new from a marketing perspective. To make an nvidia comparison, Maxwell architecture was a big step up from kepler architecture, but it's not like nvidia started from scratch. Either way 25% better performance per clock clam is impressive.
     
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    Only 10% better against a 2070 in an AMD controlled benchmark in a random 3rd person shooter no-one's ever heard of. That seems super weak to me.
     
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    not if it has half the tdp and half price.
     

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