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AMD Socket Zen 4 AM5 "Raphael" Ryzen 7000-series Talk Processor 2H-2022 Launch

Discussion in 'AMD x86 CPUs and chipsets' started by DiGiTaL MoNkEY, Jan 4, 2022.

  1. Borg3:16

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    still nothing on 5000 series non-pro threadrippers
     
  2. RnR

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    5.5+Ghz in gaming was surprising.
     
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  3. rg144

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    ^^ if that's all core (which I think we're all assuming is the case) thats excellent.
     
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    Might not be all core. Could be a 16C Zen 4 processor but the game only uses 8-10 threads.
     
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    The notes at the end they said the test system was a 16 core sample with DDR5 6000-C30

    Having 24 PCIE5 lanes is nice, not just token lanes for the GPU etc. All in all it's a decent CPU but it's just a standard iteration, nothing insane.

    I'm a bit disappointed that there was no mention of RDNA3, and that most of it was about laptops from other manufacturers which are basically already on the market :p
     
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    Speeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed

    But seriously, RDNA2 iGPU on DDR5? that's something I'm looking forward to :D
     
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    I have an X13 Flow arriving this week with a 6800HS, just for light use, travel and portable media, but still pretty excited to test that 680M :leet:. It wasn't bad really, <$2,000 delivered.
     
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    Agreed. Shame they didn't share any further details about integrated RDNA 2, but in fairness this was more an AM5 announcement + Ryzen sneak peak than a Ryzen 7000 full reveal..

    Noticed on that 'reference?' image they shared of the mobo:

    upload_2022-5-23_16-58-12.png

    - 2x 8pin mobo power (or 8pin + 6pin, although im leaning towards 2x 8)
    - 3x M2 slots (should be standard now!)
    - Look at all that heatsink'n around the VRM's :Paranoid: For better or worse? Great for AIO's/small waterblocks, maybe not so much for anyone big air coolers.

    Obviously expect AIB's to have their own designs here, but nevertheless all welcomed from AMD.
     
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  9. Sgt Bilko

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    incoming wall for you :D

    ASRock X670E Taichi
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    Asus ROG Crosshair X670E Extreme
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    Biostar X670E Valkyrie
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    Gigabyte X670E Aorus Xtreme
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    MSI MEG X670E Ace
    [​IMG]

    Not sorry, enjoy!
     
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  10. RnR

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    From that wall looks like sff fans have to go to Intel...

    Meanwhile over at twitter... the #silicongang are like;

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  11. rg144

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    worth noting though that Kopite is a little nVidia biased, hasn't been too impressed by AMD for some time. Very early days, but based on info so far I wont say its a flop, and Zen 3++ is a bit of a swipe.

    Until we know more about Ryzen 7000, specifically:
    a) can it do 5.5Ghz all core or is that just on a few cores
    b) Integrated RDNA2
    c) impact of increased L2
    d) VCache on all CPU's or separate X3D processors?

    takes a brave man to assess Zen 4 at this stage with an 'X' ;)
     
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  12. Sgt Bilko

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    Only a taste of what's the come don't you worry.

    Not bothering to comment about the second half of your post :lol:
     
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  13. RnR

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    Awww... :D
     
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    How much E penis will I lose when my 5600x and 5900x get spanked by a 7700x or will they be much the same until x3d and faster Ddr5 around 7000+

    Looks alright not a big enough jump for me to update
     
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    Grossly insufficient PCI-E lanes (and slots)! Looks like I’ll be running TR on my HTPC for a while yet.
     
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    lol what? grossly insufficient lanes and slots? how many lanes/slots do you need and for what?
    TR on a HTPC surely taking the piss right? :p
     
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    Currently have:

    1x 3080
    2x 10GbE
    Firewire card
    NVMe card

    Have 3 NVMe drives and looking to increase that in the next while.

    Desktop CPU boards are still useless to me after 5 years of core count increases and PCI-E generations. :)
     
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    Lol well of course with those expansion cards you obviously won't be running at PCIe x1; and 99% of people do not have those requirements. Doesn't mean the lanes/slots on X670 are insufficient though; for vast majority will be plenty for years to come.

    Your use case sounds like heavy video, so HEDT is prob your only option. Hard to compare HEDT/threadripper to these desktop platforms, pricing also substantially more too.

    Surprised people still using Firewire :confused:
     
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    Extreme extreme! Asus 1653339005804.jpg One thing I have to point out I like amd but they are getting greedy having 3 separate tiers of mobos within the same chipset?
    690e
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    Lets be honest the x570 and b550 bs was already stretching it thin and then locking X470 and x370 b350 450 out of pcie4 was a dog move then all that shit about locking them out of zen 3 only to backflip Idk I liked it when zen was more of a scrappy underdog and less of Intel lite
    At this point arm/Apple and other competitors need to put them in their place if only Intel gpus work on amd cpu mobos that would be hilarious

    This particularly is bs


    The AM5 compliant AMD 600-series motherboards are currently being prepped up by the board makers, The 600-series lineup will initially consist of three chipsets, the X670E, X670, and B650. In terms of features, the X670E (Extreme) is designed for the higher-echelon of motherboards with unparalleled capabilities, and extreme overclocking, and will have PCIe 5.0 support for both GPU and storage. The X670 motherboards will be very similar in offering enthusiast-level overclocking but PCIe Gen 5.0 support for storage and graphics will depend on manufacturers. It is likely that some board makers will go to cost-effective route and enable PCIe 5.0 support only for the GPU while keeping storage limited to PCIe 4.0. Both X670 chipsets will come in a dual-PCH solution on the motherboard to allow for the increased I/O for the next-gen platform.

    So pcie5 will be on a per manufacturer/board basis? Why make it so nebulous and confusing why not just have it be fully compatible or not?! I know my b550 and x570 have a few quirks but nothing like this

    Then there's the upcoming x3d zen4+ refresh before zen4 is even out even though the 5800x3d already exists? I'm getting radeon 7 vibes here

    https://wccftech.com/amd-am5-platform-x670e-x670-b650-motherboards-ddr5-pcie-5-launching-fall-2022/
     
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  20. SKITZ0_000

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    With PCIE5 being ~4GB/s per lane, and even PCIE4 being ~ 2GB/s, all you really need are 1x cards to fulfill these needs. You should instead be angry about how behind the technology of your add-in cards is :p.

    Though with all that bandwidth I can't see why a workstation board couldn't come out sharing chipset lanes to meet your needs.

    I think it's also because PCIE5 across the whole platform is likely incredibly expensive. I think it shows that they're pretty dialed in to their customers, the majority of which only really only want decent lanes to their GPU and storage, without add-in cards.

    They have just added an ultra tier to what we already have, for those maniacs that spend $1,000 on motherboards. TBH if B650 still has the same memory/FCLK/core OC capacity as B550, and is PCIE4 to the GPU and PCIE5 to storage, that sounds pretty friggen ideal to me - and definitely what I would be buying.
     
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