Discussion in 'Video Cards & Monitors' started by Agg, Jan 6, 2017.
Occam's video card, hahaha
If that is correct I'm pissed. I have held off getting a gpu because I was waiting for vega. It now looks like it's going to be an uncompetitive flop and the GPU market is now fucked and GPU prices are sky high. I know the second part isn't their fault but I could have gotten a GPU much cheaper and earlier if they weren't so tight lipped about everything. I can already hear the "wait for navi" crowd as soon as vega turns out to be totally meh.
The difference varies between freesync monitors.
I'm expecting $100 less then a 1080, if its anymore expensive you'd be crazy to buy it.
Nah it'll be the second coming of jesus to the AMD faithful even if it's a dud. I still remember the fanfare about the scorching hot and loud as fuck 290(x) which did perform ok but was still a woeful design.
I'm with you, been waiting for Vega since it was first announced last year so if these price are true... not fucking happy at all.
Pretty much especially with the power draw.
If Vega turns out to be kinda meh and is more expensive, I'll honestly probably grab either a 580 or maybe a 1070. Performance atm to me isn't really that big of an issue I honestly just want a card with 3 displayports so I can use them instead of DVI / HDMI.
The 290 / 290X were amazing cards, A.M.A.Z.I.N.G. how dare you say they just performed "ok" with a "woeful" design.
Vega will be a fantastic card, it'll blow Nvidia out of the water, just you wait and see!!!!!
AMD 4 LYFE!
I'm sorry I had to .
Even though I think AMD have shit the bed so badly in so many ways and I'm an nvidia owner I hope all the rumours are wrong.
Exact same feeling, and exactly the same position.
Me too, I'd love to grab a 1080Ti if the prices come down.
This is so wrong.
the 290x was an amazing card.
1. Nearly all of the cards in Australia were overclock models with special coolers, for the same original price. Noise and temperatures were fine.
2. Performance was great
3. It was as powerful as the 390x and pretty much the same as the recent RX 480
4. It was cheap, and even cheaper when the 390x was released.
The Fury cards and 390x were horribly poor value in comparison and it looks like Vega will be similar.
The 290x was the last high end good value card from AMD.
I agree. I've been really negative about AMD but its only because I want them to succeed. They aren't going to do this by releasing overpriced video cards.
I was actually about to say some stupid shit like I did just before but actually, your right.
My 290 can keep up with a stock 480 without to much of a problem and if I remember correctly a 390 was only a few fps faster on average when they came out but were also hotter and more power hungry (if you can imagine that) which is why I never "upgraded" to one.
In saying that however, the 290 is an extremely hot and loud card especially when compared to newer Nvidia cards.
Not in the beginning, there were plenty of reference cards sold, it was hot, sounded like a hairdryer and used more power than Chicago.
It's stood up well over time performance wise however.
The issue with the card was the huge amount of heat it had to get rid of.
Nearly all models in Australia were the Tri-X models. These dump the heat into your case but they cool the card very well.
If you had the right cooling for it they ran cool and quiet.. or could overclock very well. Otherwise the case wouldn't be able to get rid of the heat and it was run too hot and loud.
Heat can definitely be an issue but performance/cost wins every time and this is something AMD once specialised in.
I purchased my 290x the minute they got into MSY. So probably 2 weeks or so after release. At this point in time MSY, Umart and others had 4 or so Tri-X brands and no reference coolers.
So either you specifically looked for a reference design or you purchased a 290x before the main computer shops received them.
At the time power usage of the 290x seemed great as I was coming from a ATI 6990!
Still rocking 2x290's under water now, still no need to upgrade yet either.
When crossfire works anyway...
My poor friend has a 295x2 and the majority of games have poor or negative scaling for crossfire.
Works perfect for certain games like battlefield etc.
Tell me about it... I'm back on the air cooler because I'm done with custom watercooling and well thank fuck it's winter because this thing is hot.
The other problem is after a while the heat dumped into the case ends up heating the card so it starts to throttle which I've had a lot since going back to air and it's extremely annoying while trying to finish Prey.
Cut a hole in the side of your case where the 290x is and stick a 140cm fan or larger on the side
All it needs is a place for the air to go. I had a 25cm on my case where the video card is so thats why mine was cooled so well.
I found with both my Strix Ti's going , even at 85% power limit, that my M.2 SSD's all heated up close to 70*c and the strix's would get 60's to 70's.
That's half the reason i just went custom water
I just open the case door , perks of having a CaseLabs case
Hahaha, pretty sure my 290 killed my first M.2...
Edit, Think if Vega ends up being a flop I may grab a 1070, dunno if it's really worth forking out the extra for a 1080.
Consider how the RX480 was thermal throttling on the reference cooler version... I do hope that if they're bringing a reference RX Vega, it'll have a vastly improved thermal system underneath the cover... because if it's 2x8-pin and the same standard blower, we're in for a wild ride.
Assume vapour chambers and etc will be used. I know the 290X reference coolers were very hot and loud, but they got the job done.
Few more days to go.
the fact you have to open your case to cool your cards, says there is something very wrong with your case cooling or the much more likely option your cards are just way too hot