AMD's F U to Nvidia

Discussion in 'Video Cards & Monitors' started by lowdog, Dec 7, 2018.

  1. VL_BT1

    VL_BT1 Member

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    In1 f1 OC 580 beats OC 1060. and there is no farcry 5 1080p numbers. they fucked up and repeated f1
     
  2. Court Jester

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    I have owned all hardware from all vendors at some point I had a rx 580 in my media pc before replacing it with a 1060 6gb

    i have 2 x 1080ti's in my gaming system which replaced 3 x R9 290X's I cant justify buying a 2080ti ill wait for the 3080ti

    I have both an AMD ryzen and Coffee lake system ( 2700x and 8700k)

    but I generally buy the best hardware at the time -- why -- because I can
     
  3. Court Jester

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    I look at stock vs stock comparing Ocing results is hit and miss as you card may not hit those clocks

    and yes your right I missed that they used the same graph im sure if I look at the gamers nexus video or one of hardwares unboxed mammoth gaming benchmarks it would be a similar story though

    steve only recommends the 580 based on its price( being dumped to get rid of as mining bubble burst)
     
  4. Elyzion

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    I have i5 4690 and GTX 970, and I don't wanna go NVidia because twice their drivers killed my linux partition. Hence my reason for wanting a 5700XT, for me it's 2070 perf and slightly more for slightly less money.
     
  5. nope

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    so when will amd be competitive in the high end again? Big navi in 2020?
     
  6. miicah

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    Why do you think they want to be? The margin is in the midrange and as soon as consumers realise that just because the RTX2196XT-HYBRID-OC spanks everything else @ 8k doesn't mean that the midrange offering is automatically better.
     
  7. nope

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    oh well ill get ripped off by nvidia forever
    funny as amd make more profit on each 5700 than nvidia does on 2080tis by a factor of 2
    Intel gpus save us!
     
  8. mesaoz

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    How do you know what the profit margin is on these products?
     
  9. nope

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    some wanker on /g/ or somewhere else worked it out from adorktvs videos and various other sauces
    i remember reading amd makes a 5700x for 250usd and sells it for almost double that
    a 2080ti only has a 50% ish profit margin now that prices are starting to drop
     
  10. mesaoz

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    What about at launch, 2080ti has seen a 25% or so price drop right?

    Knowing AMD they will probably sell that same gpu for half the price in 2 years
     
  11. nope

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    still the initial over pricing from both sides is insane
     
  12. ipv6ready

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    Not insane at all, as long as each respective fanboys buys at inflated initial pricing it is smart business for every vendor.

    If an AMD, Intel or Nvidia fanbuy is willing to pay 150% over MSRP why should each vendor not take them for a ride.
     
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  13. SnooP-WiggleS

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    According to this guy 2080 ti profit is pretty huge. Even with poor yields it should come out well under US$400 to make.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/99r2x3/attempting_to_work_out_rtx_2080ti_die_cost_long/

    I'd be surprised if the 5700xt costs more than US$200 to produce, perhaps US$150 even, smallish die, 8gb of gddr6 is about $60 approx. As with 2080ti keep in mind design costs are huge and go up with every node shrink, it's now about US$300m for 7nm and I don't know if that includes architecture design cost or that's on top of.
    https://www.extremetech.com/computing/272096-3nm-process-node
     
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  14. nope

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    yeah its stupid i guess they all worked out how important gpus are long ago and prices just kept rising due to lack of competition
     
  15. bart5986

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    I think you'll find its less fanboys and more the high demand for GPU's and the average person not knowing what the real price should be.

    150% is a huge exaggeration and the inflated price can mostly be avoided if you shop around.
     
  16. ipv6ready

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    Really how much did people pay for Vega 56?
     
  17. dirkmirk

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    Wouldn't the average person just have an Xbox one X/PS4 PRO:confused:, higher end PC gaming is a niche and your either an enthusiast or have more money than sense or somewhere in between.
     
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    I sold mine for over a grand
     
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    Anyone with a job can afford a 2k PC rig, it's the school kids that swipe their parents Mastercard that plays console. PC MasterRace FTW.
     
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    double post
     
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