AMD’s Next Gen x86 High Performance Core is Code Named “Zen”

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  1. Deano_20802

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    The PCIe lane and price combo is so hard to go past for such a small IPC difference moving forwards. Pure clock speed is slowly becoming less important and I'm looking at coming years for TR.

    Who's buying a new high end PC today to play the last few years games anyway? Isn't that what last gen i5 / i7 options are for? That's what I'm using for all my older gaming needs.

    Ryzen or i5 / i7 is still what I'd be looking at for most people for most uses.
     
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  2. AEKaBeer

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    Thanks guys, I saw the b350 but am a little burned out by my gigabyte itx board at the moment as have a couple of friends with their itx builds, so I'll lean towards the Asrock I think.

    It's a shame as I quite like atx gigabyte boards but the common complaint I keep hearing and have experienced is their lack of support 6months after launch for anything not flying off the shelves.
     
  3. TaroT

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    sure
    https://valid.x86.fr/w7y9lg

    and again please note this is dead stock(so around 30 points less single threaded than my 3.9 1800x)
    i,ll do another cinebench in a sec...also remember i am running that now while downloading files checking email 4 IE tabs opened etc this is as usery as you get :p


    here you go
    i would say about 10 points off my best with the 1800x at 3.9 (so still nowhere near intel but then who cares who is running this app single threaded :) )

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  4. TaroT

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    yes you do for a little latency benefit but so far i see no point in doing that.....read what i wrote read my benches vs the hot shit 7900x...it is not beating me...period in games.
    need more proof happy to provide it :)
     
  5. trippinonprozac

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    I may own both 7900x and 1950x at the same time next week so happy to run them along side each other for comparison.
     
  6. Deano_20802

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    No worries there mate, it's those sort of tests and configurations I'm looking for :thumbup:

    That'd be excellent :D
     
  7. TaroT

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    if you do for the sake of the stock punters set them both up like mine stock no tweaks just xmp...then tweak the crap out of both :)

    oh and ignore useless single threaded apps go for older games or programs that people actually use9much fairer i think.
     
  8. trippinonprozac

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    Haha yeah will do. Happy to capture some stock with xmp benches tonight on the x299 setup if you like. I have no bias over either platform so I won't see anything.
     
  9. Deano_20802

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    Perfect, I know it's below Intel offerings but that's irrelevant, I was just after a number in a common app for current and future comparisons. Cheers :thumbup:

    Perfect. I use heaps of gear from all the major players and use what's best for the need at the time.

    Although I prefer AMD / AMD I own far more Intel and nVidia including G-Sync (and have for years now) due to them generally offering better products for my needs at the time.

    I love benching and comparing though haha :D
     
  10. OJR

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    The TR CPU is also clocked 100mhz lower. So that massive IPC advantage he and Partha continually bang on about is non existant.
     
  11. Bertross

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    No one cares about gaming results. Just bang a 1080ti in the damn PC and call it a day. If you care about Gaming results go back to a 7700k on a 1080p lcd. :thumbup:

    Seriously no one gives two rats.
     
  12. SKITZ0_000

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    I would love to be able to justify the exorbitance that is the TR4 platform to myself but I just cant (have tried).

    I have a couple Ryzens, you just cant beat the price/performance ratio that is an R7 1700 coupled with a B350 board. A solid 3.8-3.9 8c16t, cool, quiet and more than enough performance for the typical gamer (happy as long as it's over 60fps), with performance outside of games a pleasure to use and abuse.

    An example is an 1800X with an Asrock Taichi board vs 1700 with an Asrock Pro4, $540 vs >$900 for negligible difference in performance, unless you are after specific motherboard features or want the higher default clocks or possibly better binning for that extra 2-3%/100mhz...

    Money that would be better spent on 3200Mhz ram, which again my Pro4 handles my d-die at 3200Mhz just as well as my Taichi.
     
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    you'll be needing those tissues when you open the box :p:D:wired:
     
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    Software setting though.

    Unfortunately PCIe lanes or memory channels can't be added by software, nor can TIM be fixed via a software update :)

    Also there's always the 1900X which shouldn't have any trouble with the programs that don't like high core/thread counts.
     
  16. OJR

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    That's what I thought as well but being TR, it will be made of 2x Ryzen dies with 4 cores per die enabled. So in game mode, yes you will still lose half your cores.
     
  17. Bertross

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    Id argue you wont ever need game mode?
     
  18. dr_deathy

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    For now. Not all of us upgrade as often as intel and amd want us to.

    Funny how there is a who is still rockung a q6600 thread when the same people argued the e8400 was way better in the years gone by.
     
  19. trippinonprozac

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    From what I have seen I would agree.

    Unless you are gaming at 1080p I see no point.. Who games at 1080p on a system like this anyway.
     
  20. Scarecow

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    nm I cant read
     
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