Antarctic Adventure - New Lens?

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    Ok, so I picked up a 5Dmkii for $400, guess I need some glass for that now too :p

    Everyone in here was mentioning the full frame for landscapes, what sort of lens should I be looking at? I notice the efs lenses in general go wider, I assume that is to combat the apparent zoom of the crop sensor?

    Ie, you don't need to go as wide?

    And if I anyone sees a 24-105L at a reasonable price... Hit me up!
     
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    Congrats on the smart move. ;)
    EFS lenses won't fit your 5D-II, but the 14mm should look pretty sweet on it.
     
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    Nice buy mate. Great price.

    The Canon 16-35mm f4 would be a good choice for landscapes. Nice and sharp, especially stopped down 1-2 stops.
     
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    whichever path you choose, remember to take plenty of spare batteries
    the cold will zap your battery life
     
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    Hey syn, just ordered 4 batteries for the 5d, so I'll have 5 for each camera. Also have some hand warmers to keep them warm in my pocket.

    Dark Orange the 14mm is a manual lens, not really confident in using it for quicker shots. Definitely need to get something. What would you guys think about a wide prime? Still trying to keep the cost down where I can
     
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    100-400 ii is MUCH better than the I version.
    70-200 2.8 II is... OK, but the focus is VERY slow.
    I have both, they’re very different use cases.
     
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    Unless you go bird/animal watching or motorsport/air show often - maybe the 100-400 will only be a single use purchase?
    something to think about
    Also having never been on one of these cruises - im not sure if there is the off chance that you can borrow a lens for a few shots if thats acceptable to you. You're shooting canon so you're already at the highest chances.
    Otherwise another thing you could do is buy the 100-400 knowing that you're going to sell it when you get back. the cost difference being the "rental" fee.

    its not difficult to focus on the 14mm even for quick shots - have you practised with it much? if you shoot f8 you pretty much dont need to focus at all. Wide open you only need to focus if the subject is under 2m from you.

    As a primes guy - if anything you're missing a prime lens. Otherwise you dont have anything below f2.8
    look back at the photos you've previously taken to see what you favourite focal length is - buying a prime at that focal length isnt a bad idea.
    Usual suspects are 24 / 35 / 50 / 85 / 135
     
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    Yeah I'm kind of thinking if I don't get much use ofothe 100-400 I can resell.

    I'll start playing with the 14mm, thanks for giving me some confidence. Manual just has me freaked out. I have only used it for taking photos of the night sky so far.
     
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    I took four batteries with me to Finland when I went to see the northern lights. The temp outside was -32 C and I was out in it for several hours. I can't recall any reduction in battery life on my 700D. Camera was covered in ice crystals and the screen was noticeably slower to change image, but other than that, it worked flawlessly at -32. I was impressed, as some of the cameras of other people in the group either went flat very quickly or just stopped working at all.
     
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    Slightly off topic (sorry) but did you have any issues with glass cracking if you're out in that temperature? Like when you get back to the car. Or did you find the lens fogged up while you were out in that cold?
     
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    Everything I have read so far suggests that the temperature won't get below -10

    Keep in mind, the time of year corresponds to summer with almost 24 hours of light, and if we get bad weather we most likely won't be able to make landfall so won't be exposed to extremely cold weather for long periods of time. I just feel like cold won't be a huge problem.
     
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    Congrats on the 5dii purchase, have you come up with a list or wishlist of lenses?
     
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    Yeah mate, I am looking at the 100-400, most likely the mk1 (I can't justify double the price of the mkii) and a 24-70 2.8mm Canon, or possibly the Tamron SP 24-70mm F/2.8 Di VC USD if I can't find a 24-70 at a good price

    Than possibly a Wide Angle like the Canon 16-35mm f4 mentioned a few posts above, depending on how I go with my 14mm Rokinon.

    I think I will leave the Primes for another day at the moment.

    Also looking at a bigger bag for my gear, like the LowPro Pro Roller X200aw + a fully waterproof duffle like the Patagonia 45L Duffel (for 2x camera+fitted lens while on a Zodiac) as well as a gopro for Zodiac/underwater movies/Shots.

    I still intend to take you up on your generous offer of testing out some of your lenses, just waiting for a few accessories for the 5D to turn up (new glass for the LCD, a CF card and extra batteries). Ill probably hit you up around March (if thats OK with you) once I have had some practice with the 5D as I am still finding where all the settings are.
     
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    Fine with me, talk soon.
     
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    I should mention I have been on a shopping spree, buying bags, a monopod, a whole heap of filters, a gopro and accessories and a Sigma 150-600mm Contemporary. I decided that the extra reach was more important to me :)

    I should also mention the wife is in love with the new Lens :D

    I also had a great time with Derfman about 2 weeks ago, damn he has some great equipment!
     
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    No worries, happy to help
     
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    Would it be naughty of me to suggest you buy a drone? ;)
     
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    If only I could! Most tour operators strickly forbid the use of them, and while it's not illegal in Antarctica, it's very difficult to get a permit.

    Plus, getting it by the wife...good luck!

    Great thought though!
     
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    Congrats on your trip to Antarctica coming up. I was lucky enough to have gone in Jan 2014 with luminous landscape.
    I’ll try and share as much advice as I can give... also feel free to visit my website www.kagetsubuic.com to see a few of my photographs from so I’m not just joshing. ;)

    My first advice is with cameras. 4/5 days you won’t need a rain shield or any over the top protection for the camera, just treat it like any cold holiday. That 1/5 day though... apparently the are camera destroyers!

    Reliable autofocus is a must. I had a phase one and an original a7r with canon lenses... almost all my a7r shots on the zodiac were super blurry. I had to resort to manual focus a lot. I don’t brilliant autofocus... sure it’ll help, but as long as it’s relatively quick and locks rapidly, you’ll be fine.

    On that note, IS if you can get it, but the phase didn’t have it, and worked just fine on the zodiacs.

    I think the other thing is stop down a lot more... it’s all too easy to play the bokeh game but it’s a place that loves to be in sharp focus.
    If I think about what shots I kept, I was at around 30-35, 80 and 200mm equivalent most of the time, and it did well for those ranges in that order.

    On your last day or two you’ll likely visit deception island... that’s where a nice wide will help, but even still it’ll be two or three shots that you’ll end up keeping at that wide.

    So this point is big, if you take any advice, this is the one. Take a backup body, and have the lenses you think you’ll need, and don’t remove the lenses until back on board the ship. There is so much dust in Antarctica! My sensors on the last day looked like somebody sneazed in them!

    Take something to back up your photos, not necessarily a laptop, but a phone with heaps of memory could do the trick.

    Finally the last two points... when you arrive feel free to take a few photos, but also take a moment to sit and listen away from the crowd... when your plane lands, you’ll have an opportunity to explore the beach before boarding, a little. Listen for the popping icebergs, look for trapped krill... don’t see it all through the view finder. :)
    And be prepared to throw out you camera bag (and snow clothes) when you return so don’t get an amazing one... just functional. I’ll let you discover why this is the case when you go! ;)

    If you have any questions, send me an email through my site... I mostly lurk here from time to time so I may not get a message for a while. :)
     

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