Apple inc slowing down older iphones to nefariously encourage upgrading

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    Criminal charges being consider by Franch regulators for breaking French consumer laws.

    France had a law in August 2015 that specially forbids companies accelerating obselence.

    Also a lawsuit in France seeking fine for all iPhones sold in France since August 2015
     
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    Fraud is bad- you can't make it look worse than it is :D

    Just because you are selling to morons doesn't give you carte blanche to lie to them.
     
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    That statement got released <3 hours ago, your 'manager' would of been waiting for apples response first.
     
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    True apple has never been very good with larger customers.
     
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    • Apple is reducing the price of an out-of-warranty iPhone battery replacement by $50 — from $79 to $29 — for anyone with an iPhone 6 or later whose battery needs to be replaced, starting in late January and available worldwide through December 2018. Details will be provided soon on apple.com.
    • Early in 2018, we will issue an iOS software update with new features that give users more visibility into the health of their iPhone’s battery, so they can see for themselves if its condition is affecting performance.
     
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    Just brought my first Apple phone the SE. It works, works pretty well actually.

    Used to love the droid but it got a little hard loading roms ect to get the non flagships to run nice.

    Apple were always for the zombie's, with this I get to just use it as a phone and tinker with some other stuff.

    A battery at or near the 2 year marks going to be cactus with today's usage, they communicated it poorly and no doubt wanted a few sales in the process but you see with garmin GPS free map upgrades and many more products. Cars are even less than 7 year items these days for many.
     
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    Would be nice if they had advanced replacement ie they shipped you a phone and you ship the old one back that way you don’t have to go without a phone or go instore
     
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    You really want some neckbeards old fap phone? :p
     
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    https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2017/12/28/apple-iphone-battery-problems/#1885975b3242

     
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    Re that article, is there anything actually wrong with the batteries or was it all made up to compel people to buy new phones and/or new batteries? There's no point extending warranties where the "fault" was fraudulently manufactured for the sole purpose of making people pay for something they wouldn't need if their device hadn't been messed with. If I had one of these phones, I'd be taking it to an independent battery place for testing, not giving it back to the con artists.
     
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    We're talking about transient currents which last just a fraction of a second, but can be enough to drag the voltage low enough to cause the CPU to reset. Older batteries would have a higher internal resistance, so exhibit a larger voltage drop under the same loads in comparison to a new battery

    Here's an article explaining it: https://www.onsemi.com/site/pdf/EETAsia-April2010.pdf
     
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    iPhones out of factory are running out of spec battery.
    All batteries degrade, so Apple had five choices to make when selling the iphone to last 1 year.

    1. Lowered the cpu MHz so it draws less power
    2. Put in bigger batteries
    3. Put a warning that the phone will run at 60% or 40% speed within the year depending on usage
    4. Be upfront and make everyone change batteries, if they didn’t want to change anything.
    5. Don’t tell anyone and deny, and push people to buy newer phones.

    They willingly decieved their customers and chose number 4 and they got caught, bearing in mind they have known this issue since Se, 6, 6s, 7 and most likely effects 8 and X likely.
     
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    well i can guarantee you that google doesn't waste time on "adjusting performance to better increase user experience" on their nexus' and pixels
    they just let the batteries die off, so you deal with phones cutting out at 15%
     
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    That’s perfect, if the battery shits itself, than it’s up the customer to claim replacement pixel two year warraty including the battery.

    Unlike Apple who throttled the phone at fraction of orig8nal speed, and than told sales people to sell you an upgrade to faster phone.

    It must have been a real prick of a person in apple, that thought lets use this opportunity to sell a new phone. Just say to the customer,

    “The newer IOS give you new features and smoother experience so older phone have hard time keeping up.”

    No shit Sherlock, it was the IOS update that throttled the phone 60%!
     
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    So either Apple throttled to keep a smooth user experience or just left it as is then users would be getting random shutdowns whenever they drawed too much juice.

    Can’t really win
     
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    The simple reason for all of this is the Corporate Greed, a company needs/wants to make ever increasing exorbitant profit every year. :sick: All the drones within the company work tirelessly to achieve that goal at any cost, pushing the boundary, until one day they get caught with their hand in the cookie jar. :shock: :lol:
     
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    What i'm more interested in is whether any of the staff knew about this? was it ever mentioned in the patch notes and how many people were encouraged to purchase new phones instead of having their batteries replaced.
     

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