Attachmate acquires Novell

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  1. foxmulder881

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    News from this morning. http://tinyurl.com/35k7mhp

    What this means exactly for the future of OpenSUSE is up in the year at the moment. But Attachmate has so far stated that they will be operating the business as two entities; Novell and SUSE.
     
  2. elvis

    elvis Old school old fool

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    Who?

    Wikipedia says a whole bunch of proprietary "security" stuff, including SSH client/server and X client/server. Looks like they want Novell for the proprietary side, and SuSE is the "free steak knives".

    I'll put it out here now: I expect them to dump/sell the SuSE Linux part within 6-12 months.
     
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    Particularly given there is supposedly a willing buyer for that half of the business in vmware.
     
  4. stmok

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    *Reads through link*
    => http://www.novell.com/news/press/novell-agrees-to-be-acquired-by-attachmate-corporation

    Hmmm...

    Attachmate Corporation
    => http://www.attachmate.com/
    They appear to handle mission critical services and compliance. Mainly legacy systems...

    NetIQ
    => http://www.netiq.com/
    This is an Attachmate business that focuses on server management solutions.

    Regarding the OpenSUSE project, this is what they had to say...

    Attachmate Corporation Statement on openSUSE project
    => http://www.attachmate.com/Press/PressReleases/nov-22-2010-SUSE.htm


    Meanwhile, over at OpenSUSE forums...
    => http://forums.opensuse.org/english/community/general-chit-chat/450205-novell-sold-attachmate.html

    The OpenSUSE board says a few words...
    => http://forums.opensuse.org/english/news/announcements/450233-novell-attachmate-opensuse.html

    ...And of course, ZDNet puts their two cents into it. :rolleyes:

    What's Microsoft's role in the Novell-Attachmate deal?
    => http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/whats-microsofts-role-in-the-novell-attachmate-deal/8041
    Microsoft has led a consortium called CPTN Holdings LLC to bag 882 patents from the deal. :shock:
    (Patent bombs waiting to happen? Especially anyone using Linux in commercial products.)

    Novell sale shows its control by Microsoft
    => http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/novell-sale-shows-its-control-by-microsoft/7843

    Attachmate-Microsoft-Novell deal raises big questions for Linux
    => http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-sour...vell-deal-raises-big-questions-for-linux/7844

    Microsoft patent move may be defensive
    => http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/microsoft-patent-move-may-be-defensive/7862

    Is Novell's Linux business still up for sale?
    => http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/is-novells-linux-business-still-up-for-sale/7867
     
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  5. stmok

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    Groklaw throws in their perspective on the situation...

    Novell Agrees to be Acquired by AttachMate; Sells Some IP to a MS-Organized Consortium
    => http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20101122130625952

    In the article, Matt Osoff (Business Insider on the San Francisco Chronicle) says...

     
  6. kabab

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    I wonder what this does to mono...
     
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    Apparently Mono is safe and protected and was not part of the IP transfer to the MS led shenanigans.
     
  8. elvis

    elvis Old school old fool

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    Mono is MIT/LGPL2/GPL2. You can't buy the "IP" of a free project (ask Oracle).
     
  9. Bilbo Tubbins

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    I doubt that the SuSE business will be dumped wholesale, that business unit was on the up and from memory the only one that actually made money last financial year.
     
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  10. elvis

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    This statement is fairly typical of Microsoft and the proprietary industry. Their fear that VMWare will "buy" a Linux shows that they really don't understand free software at all.

    Yes, I realise there's brand awareness and existing customer market share in the mix as well, but you have to wonder how many VMWare shops would happily switch to "VMWare Linux" if it was offered by the same vendor as their virtualisation stack.
     
  11. Bilbo Tubbins

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    Assuming that VMware were smart enough to us SuSE Studio to offer appliance style images that required minimal configuration. I would have thought they'd be pretty successful, you've done most of the heavy lifting as far as getting something that's ready to deploy, and removing a vendor from the mix in would be appealing.
     
  12. elvis

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    It would be trivial for VMWare to get ISV support. Most of the issues facing RHEL/SLES with ISV support are around hardware/driver compatibility.

    With VMWare that's all abstracted, and they can lock down their VM images to a very minimal install set, which would have far less surface area to test when it comes to ISVs.

    As above, I understand from a purely marketing point of view why VMWare would be interested in SuSE. But honestly, given VMWare's current corporate weight (remembering they are part of the greater EMC/RSA behemoth now), it would be trivial for them to attain the same technical capabilities very quickly.
     
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    Well, it looks the the patents that Microsoft and their friends acquired weren't anything to do with Unix Copyrights.
    => http://www.novell.com/company/ir/message.html


    Meanwhile, Andy Updegrove has his 2 cents on the matter...

    Understanding the Novell Deal (and when we'll learn more)
    => http://www.consortiuminfo.org/standardsblog/article.php?story=20101124103213556
    ...Ok, its more like 2 dollars. So I'll just quote the meat of what's important.

    Everybody happy? ;)
     
  14. Skitza

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    I've been using Attachmates EXTRA! Extreme for a while and never once did I think it would acquire Novell, seems strange!
     
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    About Those 882 Novell Patents: This is Where OIN Comes In
    => http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20101206205654916

     
  16. stmok

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    An update...

    The Mono teams have all been laid off as part of the acquisition. (Including Miguel de Icaza.)

    According to Miguel's blog, he is going to start a company with the team called Xamarin, in order to resume development of Mono project and provide commercial offerings for Android and iOS platforms.
    => http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2011/May-16.html
     
  17. Oblong Cheese

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    Hopefully this means Canonical will retain Mono-based projects without too much fuss. F-Spot is sometimes terrible but it is still the best photo management software I've found on the Linux desktop. It has more than double the features of its in-place replacement shipping with 11.04 (which is so dreary I can't even remember it's name).
     

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