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Backup solution advice

Discussion in 'Business & Enterprise Computing' started by Memph, Jul 20, 2015.

  1. Memph

    Memph Member

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    Hey guys,

    I have an environment with around 30-40 (this will slowly grow) servers at multiple locations that I would like to be backing up. Servers are running a mix from Windows server 2000 to Windows Server 2012 R2.

    I would like to be deduplicating at the source to minimise bandwidth usage across the WAN from remote sites (some only have a 4mb link).

    Wondering if anyone can suggest an easily (centrally) managed product or has experience doing something similar?

    Is something like Symantec NetBackup the way to go?

    Thanks :)
     
  2. NSanity

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    this belongs in BE&C.

    Overall this can be solved with a number of tools - CA Arcserve, Netbackup, possibly still Backup Exec, Microsoft DPM, Commvault, TSM.

    You really need to narrow down your requirements a little more...
     
  3. peter10001

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    Hire a professional to do this.
    This wil cost money, but you get the best solution.
     
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    Memph

    Memph Member

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    I don't really want to hire anyone else to do this.

    What specific requirements would you like?
     
  5. NSanity

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    Considering if you just went with Netbackup in your initial post - you'd be up for at least 6 figures in licensing alone - you're absolute mad if you're not thinking of at least talking to a consultant about this.

    What are your restore requirements? How quickly do they need to be performed?
    Per file? Per Application? Per Server? Per Cluster?
    Do you have archiving requirements? If so how long?
    How frequently do you need backups? Daily? Hourly? sooner?
    Whats your networking infrastructure like? Could you implement a dedicated backup network?
    Are you virtualised? Are you going to be?
    What is your connectivity between sites? Do you have WAN Scalers?
    What do you plan on storing them on? Do you plan on versioning? How many Versions?
    Do they need to be offsite?
    Whats your skill level with existing backup applications? Which ones?

    There is seriously a zillion questions to ask - all of which are going to require intimate knowledge of your environment and requirements.
     
  6. RyoSaeba

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    Yeh, if you've never done any of this before, definitely hire a consultant or an implementation partner to do it. DIY is almost guarantee to end in someone coming in later to fix it up for you and will most likely cost you more than if you had shell out initially to get pros in to do it. It's not like a desktop where you just copy off onto a HDD and put it aside and call that backup.
     
  7. Ding.Chavez

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    Consultant.

    What is your BCU? What is your DR? What is your RPO? What is your RTO?





    Business continuity plan
    Disaster Recovery
    Recovery Point Objective
    Recovery Time Objective
     
  8. albeeny

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    (Obligatory Exclaimer: Barracuda Networks employee here.)

    OP,
    The Barracuda Backup Solution can take snapshots at the VM level and with an agent installed on the OS (Win,LINUX) it'll take backups of your file/sql/exch data as well. In both cases, dedupe is done at the source. The initial backup will take a long time (and consume a load of bandwidth across your WAN) but once that's done, it's (deduped) incrementals forever.

    You can customise the retention policy for each data source, ie. keep VM snapshots for 2 weeks, and keep monthly fileserver backups for 7 years.

    Backups are compressed and indexed. Mgmt via local WebGUI or cloud portal.... Finding and a restoring files from the appliance is fast.

    For DR, you can choose to replicate the whole lot offsite to Barracuda's Cloud in Sydney.

    https://www.barracuda.com/products/backup

    PM'ed you my contact details... if you'd like to know more.
     
  9. Iceman

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    Sorry, from the way you've asked your question I can guarantee you're not going to just be able to wing a working and scalable solution with some off the shelf software.

    Further, if you're adverse to hiring a professional, I'm going to surmise it's due to cost (feel free to prove me wrong). If that's the case 40 windows licenses alone of any decent backup software you care to name is going to knock you on your arse.

    Ding is approaching the problem correctly. You MUST clearly lay out what you're trying to achieve and then realize no "backup software" is going to fix all of it. Start with RPO - can you roll those servers back to yesterday or does it have to be 1 hour ago? Then do RTO, how long can you take to do this? A day, a week? Do you have to be on site or can you use remote hands? Do you have to ship drives or tapes to site?? Because you sure as shit aren't restoring a whole remote server over a 4mb wan link.

    Now, while you're doing this, how does that business unit function? Was that the only file server / DNS / AD / LOB app etc? What does management expect? Do they think the 100k they spent on backup will allow you to push a button and fix it magically? That's where you touch on Business Continuity framework.

    Then comes the *critical* aspects to restoration that live outside of the backup software - What are you restoring to? Where does the hardware come from? How fast will it come? How compatible will it be compared to the original? Now we're back to the backup software - does it do dissimilar hardware restore? Now you're starting to edge into a DR plan.

    You need to have this stuff nailed down before you go to market for a product. Good luck.
     
  10. Grimace22

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    stpoped reading at server 2000. That must be unsupported now, 2003 is about to be. Id be sorting that out too
     
  11. Cubix

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    2003 is, as of last Tuesday.
     

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