Bigpond rolling 100Mbit Cable nationwide

Discussion in 'Networking, Telephony & Internet' started by [KEi]SoVeReIgN, Nov 23, 2011.

  1. brad89

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    Oh ok, talking about your suburb threw me off. I was under the impression Ultimate users were still able to max out their connection internationally when testing but I could be wrong so I'm not going to argue it :thumbup:

    I do know some people that "can" max it out using torrents, not sure about usenet/premium sites though and I don't know any reliable sites to check :lol:
     
  2. martino

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    Expecting to be able to max out a 100mbps pipe downloading stuff off the internet is a bit unrealistic.

    Anyhow I'd be surprised if your Usenet provider was able to consistently dish data out to you at 10MB/sec.

    5MB/sec seems pretty good to me.
     
  3. Primüs

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    This is the common misconception with high bandwidth tails. Very rarely will you be able to fill it with a single thing. Many people are chastising the NBN for this very reason, saying its too much money to spend on something we can't utilise, but it gives you the opportunity to download at that 5mB/s THEN comfortably stream high def, browse the web, have video chats, or download from a different source, utilising the full 100mbit. If you're on 100mbit, find you only get half the speed from your normal downloading spot, then downgrade to 50mbit, you'll probably start whinging that it slows down your other activities too much when downloading.

    /rant
     
  4. brad89

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    Can anyone that is interested in joining/upgrading when this becomes available please post over on the Telstra crowdsupport forums requesting the Motorola SB6180 be made available to customers :thumbup:
     
  5. MatterHorn

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    Don't get me wrong, I'm certainly not complaining at getting 5MB/sec download speeds. I was on ADSL previously syncing @ 6mbps so it's been a huge speed increase for me. I'm just saying people shouldn't get too excited about 100mbps cable when (generally speaking) you won't see increased download speeds.
     
  6. martino

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    Gotcha, I agree.

    I actually downgraded my 100mbps Optus cable back to the standard 30mpbs because (for me) it was a waste of $15/month.
     
  7. caspian

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    brilliant post, agree with all of it.

    people need to change the way they think about UHSI services. they're not about utter speed, they are about parallelism. e-penis counts even less on UHSI than the little it did on lower bitrate connections.
     
  8. drizzy

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    It's the same technology - HFC and EuroDOCSIS 3 I think. It doesn't scale very well.
     
  9. Annihilator69

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    I'm in Leeming and the Cable is underground and connected to the house but is not in use.

    Bigpond = $80 a month for 50Gb compared to Naked DSL for $60 a month for 150GB, I'd only go with cable if the downstream was less then 4Mb, but I get 15Mbit so I couldn't care less.

    Also Bigpond in WA routes all traffic via eastern states which is dumb. 150-220 ping to local WA servers go go fail routing design. Perth, ADL, Melb, Syd and back to Perth. Compared to 11 ping for ADSL. (I've tested this on various Cable & Adsl accounts in Perth)
     
  10. brad89

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    It's similar but the contention ratios would be nothing alike.
     
  11. caspian

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    how would you have any idea what the contention ratios are here, let alone on the other side of the world? especially since Virgin shape traffic during peak periods.
     
  12. brad89

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    I don't and I was trying to make a similar point. I read the original post as though HFC networks across the world share a fixed contention ratio. There are also many other factors that would explain the performance he mentioned.

    Although it's not exact contention ratios, I have been told be a L4 CMTS tech about differences between the Bigpond/Optus network.
     
  13. flinchy

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    cable, lol. why waste money?

    NBN is gigabit (well, at least a few friends down in melbourne have pics of them leeching at 100mbps...)
     
  14. chip

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    Because it's a private company offering an incremental upgrade to an existing network that really only substantially services parts of Sydney and Melbourne.

    NBN is to replace decaying copper infrastructure just about everywhere and is more about equitable access to the net.
     
  15. flinchy

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    ... bigpond?

    i thought bigpond was telstra.
     
  16. chip

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    Bigpond is the retail arm. The copper, pits and related infrastructure are not.
     
  17. caspian

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    the relationship is a little closer when it comes to cable, in that Telstra don't make access to it available via any other ISP than Bigpond, but it's still two business units as you say.

    far better to regard Bigpond != Telstra because they're treated as an ISP the same as any ISP, the fact that they are company staff regardless.
     
  18. Auriga

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    Not for a while now mate.

    ASDL2+ Bigpond/Telstra bundle - WABO (Warnbro) exchange

    Code:
    Tracing route to www.iinet.net.au [203.173.50.132]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:
    
      1     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  home [10.0.0.138]
      2    12 ms    12 ms    11 ms  172.18.113.43
      3    11 ms    10 ms    11 ms  172.18.73.246
      4    10 ms    11 ms    11 ms  172.18.243.38
      5    10 ms    11 ms    11 ms  172.18.243.33
      6    14 ms    13 ms    17 ms  Bundle-Ether11.pie8.Perth.telstra.net 
      7    15 ms    15 ms    16 ms  Bundle-Ether1.pie-core1.Perth.telstra.net  
      8    10 ms    11 ms    11 ms  TenGigabitEthernet7-1.pie9.Perth.telstra.net [
      9    15 ms    22 ms    17 ms  iinetl2.lnk.telstra.net [165.228.157.74]
     10    10 ms    11 ms    11 ms  te1-0-1-113.per-qv1-bdr1.iinet.net.au
     11    11 ms    12 ms    11 ms  gi5-1.icp-osb-core1.iinet.net.au [203.215.4.6]
     12    11 ms    11 ms    10 ms  vl259.icp-qv1-core1.iinet.net.au [203.215.4.16
     13    11 ms    11 ms    11 ms  iinet.net.au [203.173.50.132]
    
    Trace complete.
     
  19. MR CHILLED

    MR CHILLED D'oh!

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    An initial product of telstra.
     
  20. Auriga

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    Any idea of the 125k who has:

    Foxtel

    Bigpond

    Foxtel & Bigpond
     

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