Broadband a Third World joke...

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  1. corefreak

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    Something we pretty much knew anyway...

    http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22616385-2,00.html?from=public_rss
     
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  2. wwwww

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    AU?? $128.50 per MB in Turkey? Bit pricy don't we think?
     
  3. chip

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    wow, I'm looking forward to all the amazing insightful comments that this thread will produce. This is a completely new issue and has certainly never been even been touched on before!


    Seriously, journalists writing about crap broadband in Aus is about as original as ACA doing a story on a dodgy builder or a tennant from hell...
     
  4. wwwww

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    or people getting killed by video games.
     
  5. _the_duke_

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    Hey Dadelaide
    You have to consider how sparse the population is here, for example:

    Hong Kong 6,407 people per km2
    Japan 339 people per km2
    Australia 2.6 people per km2
     
  6. ewok85

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    Heh, this gets easier and easier to answer every time.

    http://www.leonjp.com/blog/?p=124

    To give you an idea of the size of Kawaguchi, its 7.5km by 7.5km and filled up with 500,000 people. This is at the denser end of things, but you still get an idea of what conditions you need before fiber is viable.
     
  7. caspian

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    but it makes for an impressive and easily written article on the part of the journo, which is the whole point.

    I spent the last three days playing with some technology that could easily deliver 100Mbps to the house and exists right now, if we really wanted it. NB: 'wanting it' means both the capability and all the other limitations that come with it.

    the fibre that runs it is so hot that you can burn a line card or a fibre just by connecting it wrongly, and one look at the end of a bare fibre would be the last thing you ever saw.

    cool kit though. now I want to have a play with an optical switch. you should see what those suckers cost... :wired:
     
  8. _the_duke_

    _the_duke_ (Taking a Break)

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    Do we really need faster connections? Wouldn't it be acceptable if everyone had access to ADSL2? What can 100mbps connection provide that a 1.5mbps - 24mbps connection can't? Except for faster transfers of warez?
     
  9. Zzapped

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    I think you've answered your own question there :), but I agree, I would be more than happy with an ADSL2 connection

    Cheers

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  10. caspian

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    simultaneous VOIP, internet and IPTV with no lag for starters. less latency than ADSL. no modem required. more connection stability. scalability.
     
  11. grimwood

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    And if we look at just the urban centres

    Sydney 2100 / km^2
    Melbourne 1500 / km^2
    Adelaide 1350 / km^2
    Perth 1200 / km^2
    Brisbane 950 / km^2
    Aus average 1,450 / km^2

    Seoul 16500 / km^2
    Tokyo 4750 / km^2
    Helsinki 2100 / km^2

    we aren't too far behind some that have significantly better speeds. (Seoul is pretty impressive though!).

    http://www.citymayors.com/statistics/largest-cities-density-125.html
    http://www.demographia.com/db-intlua-area2000.htm

    TV / Video on demand, proper video conferencing (no Skype isn't good quality). Maybe everyone will have their own server appliance rather than sticking stuff on flickr/myspace etc. People will find good uses for faster bandwidth rather than just downloading warez porn etc.

    Edit: also like caspian said, our adsl has crap latency.

    Daniel.
     
  12. gurner

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    I remember when I got my 6.4 GB hard drive and thought it would be impossible to ever fill it up.
     
  13. Doso

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    yeah sure, that is if you can get adsl2+ and not on telstra's "stealth" fttn network and even then in our brand new estate there is 20 adsl ports for over 65 house's and of corse people are now cry blue fucking murder when they relise they cant get any form of broadband but wireless
     
  14. _the_duke_

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    That's my point, they should concentrate on giving every household access to ADSL2 (or other forms of broadband), rather than investing in new technology to improve the speeds for areas that already have access to ADSL2.
     
  15. HeXa

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    I call bullshit on those prices

    what the hell.... I call bullshit on the entire story :p
     
  16. scruff

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    What I want to know is why they're so shocked the Slovakia has better internet than us?

    Slovakia isn't that bad.
     
  17. Wilf

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    So the average in Australia is $265 a Gigabyte, which makes a 20 Gigabyte plan cost about $5,300 a month...

    why should that be surprising? A small country with a higher population density?

    which report? What is it called, where is it available?

    well, when you have a large population, a unique language and a very small country what do you expect!

    Hold on, since when is 2mbps faster than 30 mbps on Telstra cable, or up to 24mbps on ADSL2+....

    seems the author does not know what they are on about
     
  18. scruff

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    Yeah, sure, Telstra cable is now 30mbit, but how many people can actually get it? How many people can actually get ADSL? We're talking averages here.
     
  19. Annihilator69

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    Prob talking about the majority of people who are on 256kbit plans.
     
  20. wwwww

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    Indeed, that's $75 to download wPrime - I'll mail them a copy at that price.
     

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